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New Bullit 2026!
That’s not a Bullit.
I’m sorry, but companies need to stop recycling names from bikes with vastly different use intentions. The original Bullit was a budget friendly freeride weapon that was ridden to a podium at Rampage and thrashed in the woods by countless young mountain bikers coming of age with their friends and pioneering the sport.
This is a generic e-bike that will be ridden by dentists with more money than fitness or sense.
I understand e-bikes are here whether people (I and many) think they should be. But it’s a bummer to see something like the Bullit name sullied on this boring nonsense.
Sorry for the rant.
gonna play devil's advocate x1000 here about levo speeds with the explicit mention that i don't care if anyone anywhere buys one, i would NEVER buy one (who has nearly 5 figures to spend on a bicycle with or without a motor???), i'm painfully aware of the wrench this class 3 stuff throws into trail advocacy, i fully expect 87.69% of levo owners to be rallying illegally in class 3 and i fully expect downvotes to go skyhigh, but...
i own a toyota yaris (maybe 97mph top speed). a mid-life-crisis guy in a neighborhood down the way owns a ferrari (maybe 197mph top speed). we both drive on the same streets with speed limits considerably lower than the top speeds of our vehicles. if we get caught going over the speed limit, we risk citation. is LevoGate (TM) any different?
does fahkeet (or whoever came up with crab link...sorry, i forget), get a free forbidden for doing their marketing for them?
Speeding cars are normally caught by speed cameras or cops with radar guns, doubt that there are going to be cops on trails checking the bikes. The fact that bikes have speed restriction and cars do not is a puzzle in this day and age.
This.
The guys that are going to “speed” will do it anyway.
In think this is actually a very clever way of Spesh keeping tabs on it.
If the bike is “chipped” to go faster there’s not much they can do. But if they’ve given the user a choice they still retain some control…
“You want your warranty intact, then don’t break the law”
Now the can see what you’ve done even more than before. All that tech works both ways.
Around me where we ride alot of state parks, there is no one giving tickets, but there is swath of people who don't want bikes on any of the trails. They love to conflate any poor interaction to anyone who rides bikes. We have tons of mutli use paths that connect trails. Its gone take one bad accident and we may lose bikes in our parks. They don't care if its EMBT or what class. Its a bike to them.
I don't understand why anyone needs to go that fast pedaling. Commuter on road, sure.I was trying to figure out how fast 28 mph, its about the average speed of the Strava KOM Down A-Line. So I guess that's gripe. why? Why does anyone need to go 28 pedaling on an mtb? I only see risk of me losing my riding spots.
OK, I looked it up and yeah @FaahkEet originated it and @nskerb drove it home: https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/2020-MTB-Tech-rumors-and-inno…
Depends. Do you often take the cars on mixed use trails with hikers, dogs and slower cyclists?
Isn’t that just like any town/city centre… plenty of mixed use there… even more so
The capable pedal assisted speed of an e-bike on a trail is not doing nearly as much damage to the trail as riders with poor braking skills. Or the group ride that's stomping around the sides of the trail to get videos, making the trail more susceptible to erosion. It's 3mph. I can pee 3mph. I've also had a head on collision requiring facial reconstruction surgery. 3mph wouldn't have made my face any less jacked up.
@CascadeComponents Hey, I get access to a university machine shop from September and I'm interested in making something similar to that rear end for either my Vitus sommet or a custom bike I'm working on. Is there any way to get in touch?
The Class 3 is 8mph extra, from 20mph to 28mph, or 40% faster, so not 3mph.
Check your messages. Happy to answer any questions.
There have been for years in the certain areas of the Bay Area. 20MPH speed limits, for all bikes, are enforced.
the real question is why is there no vital crab-link shirt yet
The concern isn't erosion, its increased negative interaction with hikers, equestrians, etc, and the potential that someone gets caught with a class 3 ebike where only class 1 ebikes are permitted, and the authorities just decide to ban all ebikes (or mountain bikes in general) in that area.
I have yet to see or hear of this actually happening.
It isn't. Hikers aren't expecting bikes to be passing them uphill at almost 30MPH just like pedestrians aren't expecting cars to be passing them on the sidewalks.
I think mtb riders are finally experiencing what hikers have felt since we started riding their trails. Having a bike pass you at 15mph when you walking or stopped on the trail isn’t all that different from being on an analog and having an eeb pass at 20. Now the eebs are pissed because Expensive Eebs will pass them at 28? Welcome to the club.
Can we all agree that horses are way worse than class 3 eebs? I’d love for us to all rally around a common cause rather than let the man divide and conquer us
did neko's floating brake arm video ever get posted? if not, here it is
More Neko...
was there. 1. that bike park is so freaking sick (and the moody/wet conditions were all-time). 2. asa riding in person is a sight to behold.
It makes me so happy I lost my marbles and started ranting about 4Bar bikes. I mean crab bikes. I always wondered when a company would embrace this new way
Now all it needs is an endorsement from Horst Leitner himself.
Very similar to the old G2s?
Holy shit it's a big day for tech innovation (well sort of)
The crab link ad bought a smile to my face, I've been having a rough go lately and it lifted my spirits somewhat.
Hikers/walkers/runners generally don't expect anyone else to be on the trail when they are, regardless of speed.
Runners in particular can get incredibly upset if they have to adjust their pace for whatever reason.
Whenever I'm on my bike and I meet other users (except bikes
), I always slow down and try to be courteous. Even then the amount of people on foot that are completely oblivious to their surroundings never ceases to amaze me
MTB philosophical matters and innovation.
People is going to keep behaving like people, but as a society we already advanced enough to reduce the effect some of the most elemental laws of nature can enforce on us in order to keep the fool everybody has inside, under check.
+1 on the horse issue. They’re literally the single most destructive/disruptive user group I can think of (post holing and eroding everything they touch, shitting everywhere, easily scared, etc.) but they get minimal flack as far as I know because the user group is mainly rich old heads that have more influence over public land use in most places.
I also think a lot of these issues would be alleviated if local govt/land managers would allow/invest in more mtb specific trails and infrastructure. You look at areas like Bentonville Arkansas, Knoxville, TN and lots of other southern/southeastern cities where mtb is seen as an investment and there is much less tension/dislike between user groups because they have their own dedicated trails. Unfortunately in areas where they are shared, there will always be vocal hikers that spaz when they see a mountain biker riding at any speed because it makes them uncomfortable.
More trails, more common sense, and less anger would go a long way.