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race face going short on crank length
The most trustworthy alloy crank on the trails, thirty years running. Turbine delivers an incredibly stiff and responsive ride with uncompromised durability. Go ahead and get rowdy. Turbine has your back. Now in 160mm.
Era Crankset MSRP: $499 USD / $649 CAD / 489 EURO
Turbine Crankset MSRP: $180 USD / $220 CAD / 230 EURO
Wish they'd do the AeffectR in the 160s too. I've had the 165s on the pedal bike for several years now and they are the best price per weight per tough cranks I've owned.
Is AP4 cooking something new or trolling?
It could be just tape to cover the caliper due to mucky conditions. I do that for riding in the snow.
I would assume it could be a new FRS, new Meta power with bosch gen 5, new clash, that kinda thing?
I was simply pointing out its age, and also as a reminder that saint is now shimano's longest running unchanged grouppo.
How progressive of them to offer cranks 5mm shorter...
The move to 160mm is irrelevant if, like the 165mm Turbine, they are eternally and perpetually out of stock in the spindle size needed at any given moment.
I bought the first set in 2019 and grenaded the small bearing to the point one of them fell apart and the outer ring remained in the pedal bore. Got sent a new set but then managed to get the outer ring out of the original one and rebuilt it with the bushing rebuild kit. I even have some needle roller bearings at home, but never had correct spacers made to make it work.
I bought a new set for the new bike in 2023, so I have a total of three sets, but the pain was that I bent the axles on the older two sets where I only have one good axle out of the four. OneUp doesn't have the axle as a spare parts (which seems daft to me), so a replacement set of Ti axles from Switzerland was the saviour (2 sets were still cheaper than 1 new set of pedals). One Ti set is a backup and one is in use on my GFs bike (with the newest pedal bodies while I built a new axle-old body set for myself).
Nine year old component is like a century ago in bike years. What other components that have withstood the test of time that long? maybe some grips/pedals.
Having to ride tires from 9 years ago sounds like a blast.
Had some of the first Minion DHF 29" samples in 2012. Prior to that 29" options were pretty grim, the best we could do were WTB Weirwolf LT 2.55" and Maxxis Ardent 2.4" (probably what I had on the rear in this photo).
As a delivery driver, it was a banner day getting to deliver one of them to my frame builder buddy. 😎
Thomson everything. I think Bruni still runs the seatpost?
I mean the Minion DHF celebrated a 20th anniversary. If that is not longevity in this industry, IDK what is. They have been my favorite tire nearly the entire time I have ridden bikes seriously. I try something new every year or so and end up back on the DHF. Three wheelsizes later and I am still going after DHFs for my preferred tire.
Speaking of wheelsizes, saw a post by DirtySixer showing 32" wheeled bikes 😒
Certain hubs, spokes, EX471's are 9 years old this year. There's a bit when you look around
I wonder where the price difference for the aluminium cranks between US and EU is coming from, tariffs? Pretty much the same for carbon.
Era Crankset MSRP: $499 USD / $649 CAD / 489 EURO
Turbine Crankset MSRP: $180 USD / $220 CAD / 230 EURO
Uhm actually Shimano Dura-Ace Track 7700 launched in 1996 is the longest running unchanged shimano gruppo. /nerd
And yeah most spokes versions are 20+ years old. D-light was 2010 and CX-Ray was 1997 for Sapim.
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it a different tire today? I would imagine both construction and compound have been updated. Whereas I believe the saint derailleur is literally the same one from 9 years ago.
My jerseys are all (both?) from like 15 years ago
honest question - is the 7700 track grouppo still in active production? it seems to have been delisted from the shimano website
Pretty sure 7600 track cog, 7700 octalink & square taper BB are still being produced even if they are not listed on shimano consumer site and the chainrings are still listed and produced but good chance the actual 7700 crankset are now discontinued.
The track parts are all available and are still stocked by Shimano USA. NJS Keirin races have inflexible equipment rules which effectively prohibit changes to the groupset - tech rumors and innovation are outlawed!!!
The voice I read this in
Some compo from the full ine-up (BB's, Chainrings) have been discontinued but I can confirm the cranks and hubs are still actively being produced in Japan.
Not too different.
3c has been introduced about 10ish years ago, but before that there were Super Tacky and even Slow Reezay tires that used same durometer rubbers you'll find on the MaxxGrip. I don't know if there was a significant change in the compound, but you could buy a full 40a tire while now you just get 40a on side knobs and 42a on main tread.
I don't think it's fair to compare Saint to a rim or a spoke. Of all the parts that stood the test of time mentioned here, it's by far the most complex. I do still run my 2013 set of brakes and they're absolutely my favourites, yet while I got 5 seasons out of my first RD-M820, I've been getting less than a season out of the last few. So I gave up on DH derailleurs.
4 world cup teams confirmed on gates belt-driven bikes - Aon, Atherton, MS Racing and Intense
https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/2025-team-rumors?page=83#comment-56…
thanks for the insight, learn something every day (or try to).
Chris Canfield starting to roll out new frames to customers
from the other site.... what appears to be the atherton 200g
Can someone make an optional high pivot bike with a straight seat tube? These seem to have worse insertion than even the new spicy.