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chriskief wrote:

Looks like they’re making room for a Neo battery.

It looks like they refined the air can to be a true hand grenade for when it does blow up. /s

Use one during dual slalom and take out your competitors mario kart style 

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Wheelbased just shared more pictured of the new Reverb AXS (off a Bjorn Riley story)


 

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chriskief wrote:

Looks like they’re making room for a Neo battery.

It looks like they refined the air can to be a true hand grenade for when it does blow up. /s

MauiMax wrote:

Use one during dual slalom and take out your competitors mario kart style 

If you cant finish the race because of your shock, no one can…

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Another pic of the new axs dropper

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Not sure if this was posted before but Biggiecomponents released a SRAM T-TYpe adapter that fits older Yeti bikes between 2019-2023 that are non-UDH, The adapter kit cost only $65 USD.

https://www.biggiecomponents.com/shop/p/t-type-conversion

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AgrAde wrote:
Is a brake really that hard to design and manufacture? It's not a super simple product but it is just an assembly of a bunch of...

Is a brake really that hard to design and manufacture? It's not a super simple product but it is just an assembly of a bunch of fairly straightforward parts. It's not like a rim or a carbon frame where you need expensive tooling and a bunch of special sauce on the engineering side of things to get a functional product. 

Good point on the "cranks come with bikes" statement. Shorter cranks seem like a huge thing at the moment because everyone that's talking about their short cranks online, but the percentage of people actually buying them i guess is really really small. If Shimano would offer the XT in 160 and 155 then it'd probably kill most people's interest in most of the smaller brands, but they'd also have to figure out how to communicate to buyers that their boring looking crank is actually built in a way cooler way than cutting it into shape on a mill.

Hel have been making motorcycle brakes for years

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1/5/2025 5:43pm Edited Date/Time 1/5/2025 5:44pm
Fantaman wrote:
Not sure if this was posted before but Biggiecomponents released a SRAM T-TYpe adapter that fits older Yeti bikes between 2019-2023 that are non-UDH, The adapter...

Not sure if this was posted before but Biggiecomponents released a SRAM T-TYpe adapter that fits older Yeti bikes between 2019-2023 that are non-UDH, The adapter kit cost only $65 USD.

https://www.biggiecomponents.com/shop/p/t-type-conversion

I believe 5Dev made one first a year or so ago. Bit more expensive though and looks to be discontinued. https://5dev.com/products/yeti-2018-2022-udh-mod-kits

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1/5/2025 6:21pm

this one may include the new axle you need as the old one wont make it there with the adapter, most likely..

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Given that it was probably SRAM's lawyers that were responsible for 5dev discontinuing the udh mod kit, ordering the biggie kit sooner rather than later is probably a good plan if you think you might want one.

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Etney wrote:
Another pic of the new axs dropper

Another pic of the new axs dropper

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Going to be fun reading wireless/electronic aficionados rationalizing an expensive, cumbersome and fugly axs dropper over a cabled version. 

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AgrAde wrote:
Given that it was probably SRAM's lawyers that were responsible for 5dev discontinuing the udh mod kit, ordering the biggie kit sooner rather than later is...

Given that it was probably SRAM's lawyers that were responsible for 5dev discontinuing the udh mod kit, ordering the biggie kit sooner rather than later is probably a good plan if you think you might want one.

There is a bunch of aftermarket udh hangers so I doubt anyone is after them...

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This is an older frame to UDH compatible conversion, not an UDH compatible frame derailleur hanger for the older derailleurs. It's to mount Transmission derailleurs on old frames. 

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Etney wrote:
Another pic of the new axs dropper

Another pic of the new axs dropper

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Dog balls fugly

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AgrAde wrote:
Given that it was probably SRAM's lawyers that were responsible for 5dev discontinuing the udh mod kit, ordering the biggie kit sooner rather than later is...

Given that it was probably SRAM's lawyers that were responsible for 5dev discontinuing the udh mod kit, ordering the biggie kit sooner rather than later is probably a good plan if you think you might want one.

This is referring to the Specialized gravel bikes T-type mod, not Yetis, but might give some insight:

 

https://nminus1bikes.substack.com/p/n-1wsletter-9-sram-transmission-ret…

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1/7/2025 8:07am

X-post from the Team Rumors thread, but since Rheeder mentions opening another new mountain bike company later this year I figured it belongs here too. Here's to hoping it's not another flat pedal brand 😂😂

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X-post from the Team Rumors thread, but since Rheeder mentions opening another new mountain bike company later this year I figured it belongs here too. Here's...

X-post from the Team Rumors thread, but since Rheeder mentions opening another new mountain bike company later this year I figured it belongs here too. Here's to hoping it's not another flat pedal brand 😂😂

I really think the industry could use another billet stem ngl

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AgrAde wrote:
Given that it was probably SRAM's lawyers that were responsible for 5dev discontinuing the udh mod kit, ordering the biggie kit sooner rather than later is...

Given that it was probably SRAM's lawyers that were responsible for 5dev discontinuing the udh mod kit, ordering the biggie kit sooner rather than later is probably a good plan if you think you might want one.

But there is nothing with UDH, there you modify the frame to fit a SRAM component...what's the issue with the patent?? isnt?

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gonza.s.m. wrote:

But there is nothing with UDH, there you modify the frame to fit a SRAM component...what's the issue with the patent?? isnt?

It would be pretty hard to adapt to the direct mount/UDH standard without getting uncomfortably close to SRAM's patented designs. You may prevail, but can you afford the legal cost and time to find out for such a low volume product?

I have a set of design sketches I worked up somewhat peripheral to this idea (being deliberately vague, here). It was a fun design exercise, but I bailed on the concept as the upside wasn't worth the risk of if SRAM's attorneys didn't like what I was doing.

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gonza.s.m. wrote:

But there is nothing with UDH, there you modify the frame to fit a SRAM component...what's the issue with the patent?? isnt?

JVP wrote:
It would be pretty hard to adapt to the direct mount/UDH standard without getting uncomfortably close to SRAM's patented designs. You may prevail, but can you...

It would be pretty hard to adapt to the direct mount/UDH standard without getting uncomfortably close to SRAM's patented designs. You may prevail, but can you afford the legal cost and time to find out for such a low volume product?

I have a set of design sketches I worked up somewhat peripheral to this idea (being deliberately vague, here). It was a fun design exercise, but I bailed on the concept as the upside wasn't worth the risk of if SRAM's attorneys didn't like what I was doing.

I mean, i'll admit it - I am dumb as a rock. But could literally a cnc machined spacer, and a thru axle adapter infringe on their patent? I am sure it can, but it sounds strange.

And it essentially makes it so sram themselves potentially sell more transmission groupsets. Would be more logical if the C&D came from spesh/yeti instead

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Etney wrote:
I mean, i'll admit it - I am dumb as a rock. But could literally a cnc machined spacer, and a thru axle adapter infringe on...

I mean, i'll admit it - I am dumb as a rock. But could literally a cnc machined spacer, and a thru axle adapter infringe on their patent? I am sure it can, but it sounds strange.

And it essentially makes it so sram themselves potentially sell more transmission groupsets. Would be more logical if the C&D came from spesh/yeti instead

I think the main thing is to never ever underestimate the capacity of Copyright lawyers to be an asshole about something.

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Dave Waugh wrote:

I think the main thing is to never ever underestimate the capacity of Copyright lawyers to be an asshole about something.

I mean, I guess you're right about that.

Its not the first time i've seen companies bring legal action to something absolutely trivial. Something that often in the case of an end user, gives easier entry to a product, or solves a problem.

But I know some companies are very protective of anything touching their IP, so this could be one of these cases. 

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1/7/2025 5:31pm Edited Date/Time 1/7/2025 5:34pm

Word on the street the full production Specialized DH vessel is ready. Apparently it's a looker. 

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Domo-Kun wrote:

Word on the street the full production Specialized DH vessel is ready. Apparently it's a looker. 

so release in 2027 when they finally got rid of their demo stock? :D

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So SRAM is taking the UDH success to brakes...?

Patent Center

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Simcik wrote:
So SRAM is taking the UDH success to brakes...?Patent Center

So SRAM is taking the UDH success to brakes...?

Patent Center

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File this under: Things I do not hate!

I know its not holistically for altruistic reasons SRAM is coming out with standards like UDH and UBH, but these standards make things so much easier to deal with from the consumer side. Bend a UDH hanger? Go into any bike shop. Want to swap between 180 and 200 rotors? Buy a different UBH. The idea of not having to deal with a frame's terrible brake post alignment, or even having to do the "post adaptor math" is a net win in my book. 

Kudos for SRAM for doing this!

Looking forward to their new mineral oil brakes in the future as well! 😉

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Simcik wrote:
So SRAM is taking the UDH success to brakes...?Patent Center

So SRAM is taking the UDH success to brakes...?

Patent Center

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What does #422 mount to?

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What does #422 mount to?

Looks to me like 424 goes through 428 and then thread into either the frame or a set of removable threads in the frame in location 426. That is how they plan to mount the front end of the mount to the bike.

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What does #422 mount to?

Simcik wrote:
Looks to me like 424 goes through 428 and then thread into either the frame or a set of removable threads in the frame in location...

Looks to me like 424 goes through 428 and then thread into either the frame or a set of removable threads in the frame in location 426. That is how they plan to mount the front end of the mount to the bike.

Yeah and probably some spherical stuff going on with 428 to account for misalignment of that hole in the frame.

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What does #422 mount to?

Simcik wrote:
Looks to me like 424 goes through 428 and then thread into either the frame or a set of removable threads in the frame in location...

Looks to me like 424 goes through 428 and then thread into either the frame or a set of removable threads in the frame in location 426. That is how they plan to mount the front end of the mount to the bike.

Thats how I read it as well, then the mount has a pinch bolt to clamp over that big post. Everyone stating this solves "complex" brake post alignment issues, the distance/angle between 400 and 426 will be very critical.

UDH solved the issue of every bike having different and expensive hangers, we already have a universal brake mount its called posts and slotted holes on the caliper, its literally as universal as it gets you can adjust it and add spacers for different disc sizes and adjust for alignment issues. 

 

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