New Motion Instruments gizmos: https://motioninstruments.com/products/system-2
Cheaper than before but also has some limitations (e.g. won't work w/ EXT forks, which probably means it won't work w/ Manitou...
Cheaper than before but also has some limitations (e.g. won't work w/ EXT forks, which probably means it won't work w/ Manitou either).
Doesn't work because it mounts to the air valve and the ext has two. Thus it won't work with aftermarket dual positive chamber modifications as well. It's not the arch that's the problem.
Same, only with even more spacers... Can't wait to get my hands on a 55 mm (or more) rise bar.
@chasejj that sounds... stiff. Also, regarding...
Same, only with even more spacers... Can't wait to get my hands on a 55 mm (or more) rise bar.
@chasejj that sounds... stiff. Also, regarding the limit, got more info on that? It's the first time I'm hearing that and it's not intuitive why that would be an issue... A bar is a bar is a bar is a bar? I mean a 20 or a 35 mm rise bar at 810 is going to have about the same leverage as a 55 mm rise bar at 760 mm.
EDIT: scratch that, bar rise has almost no effect on leverage by increasing the distance from the clamping area linearly. Additional torsional loads in the clamp might play a role in things with higher rise bars, but for added leverage bar width is the main driver.
Just as a note, can 100% confirm that bar rise does effect the flex of a bar.
having specifically tested flex on bars, and same bar, same width, different rise, a taller bar does have more flex.
My edit button sadly doesn't work, but Manitou has IRT for the dual positive chamber, but it comes with a single valve at the top. Should work fine with motion instruments.
Flex yes, the leverage part is not clear though.
My edit button sadly doesn't work, but Manitou has IRT for the dual positive chamber, but it...
Flex yes, the leverage part is not clear though.
My edit button sadly doesn't work, but Manitou has IRT for the dual positive chamber, but it comes with a single valve at the top. Should work fine with motion instruments.
Thanks! Adding diagram for anyone curious about it
Flex yes, the leverage part is not clear though.
My edit button sadly doesn't work, but Manitou has IRT for the dual positive chamber, but it...
Flex yes, the leverage part is not clear though.
My edit button sadly doesn't work, but Manitou has IRT for the dual positive chamber, but it comes with a single valve at the top. Should work fine with motion instruments.
the top valve on the IRT is for the second (high pressure) air chamber. there is a another valve on the bottom of the fork for the first positive air chamber and neg air chamber (self equalizes when a pump is attached).
New Motion Instruments gizmos: https://motioninstruments.com/products/system-2
Cheaper than before but also has some limitations (e.g. won't work w/ EXT forks, which probably means it won't work w/ Manitou...
Doesn't work because it mounts to the air valve and the ext has two. Thus it won't work with aftermarket dual positive chamber modifications as well...
Doesn't work because it mounts to the air valve and the ext has two. Thus it won't work with aftermarket dual positive chamber modifications as well. It's not the arch that's the problem.
Or does Manitou use a dual positive chamber too?
It looks like it hangs off the air valve just like the original setup, it's just a slotted piece of metal and the cap threads down on the valve to hold the top of the tracer in place. I have an original MI setup and it works fine on EXT forks, you just have to be a bit more careful to line everything up and use one of the valves. Not sure why the new tracer wouldn't work the same way on dual valve forks but I'm sure somebody could whip up something on the 3d printer to work it out.
To me the exciting part is the rear shock sensor - certain bikes can be a real pain with the old system, and it was always easier on coil shocks than air.
New Motion Instruments gizmos: https://motioninstruments.com/products/system-2
Cheaper than before but also has some limitations (e.g. won't work w/ EXT forks, which probably means it won't work w/ Manitou...
New Motion Instruments gizmos: https://motioninstruments.com/products/system-2
Cheaper than before but also has some limitations (e.g. won't work w/ EXT forks, which probably means it won't work w/ Manitou...
On the topic of innovation, have any alpinestars athletes/team explained why everyone is on the moto helmet? New mtb helmet spec? Or new regulations made the moto helmet safer at slow speeds
On the topic of innovation, have any alpinestars athletes/team explained why everyone is on the moto helmet? New mtb helmet spec? Or new regulations made the...
On the topic of innovation, have any alpinestars athletes/team explained why everyone is on the moto helmet? New mtb helmet spec? Or new regulations made the moto helmet safer at slow speeds
Moat likely a new DH helmet based on the SM10 design.
New Motion Instruments gizmos: https://motioninstruments.com/products/system-2
Cheaper than before but also has some limitations (e.g. won't work w/ EXT forks, which probably means it won't work w/ Manitou...
If it’s just mounting then a mcgyverrd solution is probably doable.
They indicated this would void your warranty.
The original system would mount to a coil single crown using double sided tape, but I think something more elegant may be possible for forks that leave a 5-10mm gap at full compression. You could probably 3d print it to offset to the side and tape in place so it stays straight, there might be enough space to use a strap around the top of the crown, but it'd be risky especially considering these new sensors have no room for rotation. At $500, it might almost be worth it to try.
The whole system is a set and forget kinda design and isn't intended at the fiddling and macgyvering crowd as much as some other variants, so I'm guessing that's why they say it's not compatible. It is, it's just not easy.
On the topic of innovation, have any alpinestars athletes/team explained why everyone is on the moto helmet? New mtb helmet spec? Or new regulations made the...
On the topic of innovation, have any alpinestars athletes/team explained why everyone is on the moto helmet? New mtb helmet spec? Or new regulations made the moto helmet safer at slow speeds
On the topic of innovation, have any alpinestars athletes/team explained why everyone is on the moto helmet? New mtb helmet spec? Or new regulations made the...
On the topic of innovation, have any alpinestars athletes/team explained why everyone is on the moto helmet? New mtb helmet spec? Or new regulations made the moto helmet safer at slow speeds
Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched? The SM10 is supposed to be ECE 22.06 certified, would be great to be able to buy one helmet for mx and mtb.
Having serious concussions in the past, I'm constantly trying to find the safest domes on the market and nobody is testing them to their full potential.
We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP
We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes?
edit: wanting to try something different but similar with my next set, was looking at Contis but don't know much about Schwalbe
don't miss the homepage because you'll miss this. mclaren ebike with 161nm of torque and this "display"
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/mclaren-yes-mclaren-launches-hyperbike-e-mtb-161nm-torque-852w-peak-power
don't miss the homepage because you'll miss this. mclaren ebike with 161nm of torque and this "display"
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes...
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes?
edit: wanting to try something different but similar with my next set, was looking at Contis but don't know much about Schwalbe
Very personal, but for me Maxxis, including specifically the Assegai, tend to puncture much faster than Schwalbe of equivalent weight. Most Maxxis DD's I have tried were dead in under a month on the rear (multiple snakebites or big tear), whereas a Schwalbe supertrail will probably last at least 3 months, and a supergravity will never die (talking sidewalls here, knobs will be long gone)
Cool shots from PitBits video of AP’s V5 rear end. (3rd photo from IG). It’s interesting to me to see how soft potentially he’s trying to make his bike but then Greg wrapping his norco rear end in carbon.
Wayy more lights and buttons on the Ohlins stuff than I imagined.
Wayy more lights and buttons on the Ohlins stuff than I imagined.
I just love how they've got the most one-off frame, a bunch of secret suspension stuff going on, and a clump of black electrical tape holding it all together I'm sure it's there just to hide what's beneath, but it sure does look hodgepodge
Cool shots from PitBits video of AP’s V5 rear end. (3rd photo from IG). It’s interesting to me to see how soft potentially he’s trying to...
Cool shots from PitBits video of AP’s V5 rear end. (3rd photo from IG). It’s interesting to me to see how soft potentially he’s trying to make his bike but then Greg wrapping his norco rear end in carbon.
Maybe he needs extra compliance to offset the extra rigidity from the Air Shock? Running a Float X2 instead of a DHX2 is what I can't wrap my head around.
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes...
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes?
edit: wanting to try something different but similar with my next set, was looking at Contis but don't know much about Schwalbe
Schwalbe (and Contis too) are typically half the price of Maxxis, so there's that.
But the naming thing evades me - so it'll be "Albert Gravity in Super Gravity compound" etc
Which is probably on the same level of fail as with Conti's "Trail/Endurance" vs "Enduro/Soft" casings/compounds, totally not confusing
I just love how they've got the most one-off frame, a bunch of secret suspension stuff going on, and a clump of black electrical tape holding...
I just love how they've got the most one-off frame, a bunch of secret suspension stuff going on, and a clump of black electrical tape holding it all together I'm sure it's there just to hide what's beneath, but it sure does look hodgepodge
I would love to see the difference in bar hight from Finn´s vs. Dak´s bike. Seems that they were completely the opposite. Finn´s bars are totally slammed and Dak´s bar is higher than Bob M. ever was.
Doesn't work because it mounts to the air valve and the ext has two. Thus it won't work with aftermarket dual positive chamber modifications as well. It's not the arch that's the problem.
Or does Manitou use a dual positive chamber too?
Just as a note, can 100% confirm that bar rise does effect the flex of a bar.
having specifically tested flex on bars, and same bar, same width, different rise, a taller bar does have more flex.
Flex yes, the leverage part is not clear though.
My edit button sadly doesn't work, but Manitou has IRT for the dual positive chamber, but it comes with a single valve at the top. Should work fine with motion instruments.
Thanks! Adding diagram for anyone curious about it
the top valve on the IRT is for the second (high pressure) air chamber. there is a another valve on the bottom of the fork for the first positive air chamber and neg air chamber (self equalizes when a pump is attached).
It looks like it hangs off the air valve just like the original setup, it's just a slotted piece of metal and the cap threads down on the valve to hold the top of the tracer in place. I have an original MI setup and it works fine on EXT forks, you just have to be a bit more careful to line everything up and use one of the valves. Not sure why the new tracer wouldn't work the same way on dual valve forks but I'm sure somebody could whip up something on the 3d printer to work it out.
To me the exciting part is the rear shock sensor - certain bikes can be a real pain with the old system, and it was always easier on coil shocks than air.
wheel_based is back! Check him out on the insta, hopefully we'll see him here too.
https://www.instagram.com/p/C6_7zaRx1aF/
It should work with Manitou with IRT, as there is a valve on the top.
Thanks all! Didn't realize the valve was just for mounting and wasn't a data source...
Marin seems to always have very carefully speced builds. Sadly they have no real dealer network where I live
On the topic of innovation, have any alpinestars athletes/team explained why everyone is on the moto helmet? New mtb helmet spec? Or new regulations made the moto helmet safer at slow speeds
Moat likely a new DH helmet based on the SM10 design.
If it’s just mounting then a mcgyverrd solution is probably doable.
They indicated this would void your warranty.
The original system would mount to a coil single crown using double sided tape, but I think something more elegant may be possible for forks that leave a 5-10mm gap at full compression. You could probably 3d print it to offset to the side and tape in place so it stays straight, there might be enough space to use a strap around the top of the crown, but it'd be risky especially considering these new sensors have no room for rotation. At $500, it might almost be worth it to try.
The whole system is a set and forget kinda design and isn't intended at the fiddling and macgyvering crowd as much as some other variants, so I'm guessing that's why they say it's not compatible. It is, it's just not easy.
We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP
Dak said it's just the current moto helmet
Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched? The SM10 is supposed to be ECE 22.06 certified, would be great to be able to buy one helmet for mx and mtb.
Having serious concussions in the past, I'm constantly trying to find the safest domes on the market and nobody is testing them to their full potential.
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes?
edit: wanting to try something different but similar with my next set, was looking at Contis but don't know much about Schwalbe
hit the homepage for pit bits galleries (2 of them) from poland. pit bits vid just dropped too. here it is
don't miss the homepage because you'll miss this. mclaren ebike with 161nm of torque and this "display"
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/mclaren-yes-mclaren-launche…
Looks like a Vespa
Very personal, but for me Maxxis, including specifically the Assegai, tend to puncture much faster than Schwalbe of equivalent weight. Most Maxxis DD's I have tried were dead in under a month on the rear (multiple snakebites or big tear), whereas a Schwalbe supertrail will probably last at least 3 months, and a supergravity will never die (talking sidewalls here, knobs will be long gone)
Cool shots from PitBits video of AP’s V5 rear end. (3rd photo from IG). It’s interesting to me to see how soft potentially he’s trying to make his bike but then Greg wrapping his norco rear end in carbon.
Wayy more lights and buttons on the Ohlins stuff than I imagined.
I just love how they've got the most one-off frame, a bunch of secret suspension stuff going on, and a clump of black electrical tape holding it all together
I'm sure it's there just to hide what's beneath, but it sure does look hodgepodge
Maybe he needs extra compliance to offset the extra rigidity from the Air Shock? Running a Float X2 instead of a DHX2 is what I can't wrap my head around.
Schwalbe (and Contis too) are typically half the price of Maxxis, so there's that.
But the naming thing evades me - so it'll be "Albert Gravity in Super Gravity compound" etc
Which is probably on the same level of fail as with Conti's "Trail/Endurance" vs "Enduro/Soft" casings/compounds, totally not confusing
Flight Attendant looks clean as compared to this.
I would love to see the difference in bar hight from Finn´s vs. Dak´s bike. Seems that they were completely the opposite. Finn´s bars are totally slammed and Dak´s bar is higher than Bob M. ever was.