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chriskief
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3/24/2023 1:49pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:
Lotsa changes. Wonder if Jack Moir will settle into the year and revert back to a more historically normal bike setup for him, or if he's...

Lotsa changes. Wonder if Jack Moir will settle into the year and revert back to a more historically normal bike setup for him, or if he's planning on running the super mega enduro downhill bike for the rest of the season. Especially odd because it seems like a lot of riders are underbiking for Maydena vs. a lot of the steep and deep Euro rounds and Whistler. Things to watch. If we're to believe those parts specs in his bike check, Jack is running for the first time:

190mm fork

Cushcore front and rear, or at all

Coil shock

Longer reach frame

Was wondering the same. Perhaps it's steeper out there than people thought?

Or maybe with the hand he's doing a bit more plowing than finessing at the moment?

Uncle Cliffy
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3/24/2023 2:50pm
My best guess would be that rather than having a different controller for the dropper and shifter, they are using identical controllers that are interchangeable and...

My best guess would be that rather than having a different controller for the dropper and shifter, they are using identical controllers that are interchangeable and mountable on either side of the Handlebar.  That way they only have to manufacture 1 controller.  I also heard rumors that they are going to make the 2nd button on the dropper controller able to control the modes of Flight Attendant without taking your hands off the bars.  

Of course it is. My post was in jest… I’m assuming there’s a less than 2% demand for fully automatic seat posts. Tongue

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slimshady
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3/24/2023 3:05pm
sspomer wrote:
pit bits from TN national. not a ton of new stuff, but... https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/pit-bits-tn-national-downhill-and-xc-windrock  

pit bits from TN national. not a ton of new stuff, but...

https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/pit-bits-tn-national-downhill-and-xc-…

Transition Factory Racing%2C new stem-cockpit from OneUp

 

Please, pretty please, could you guys throw all the pictures in one page as you did here in the rest of the pit bits? It 1000 times better than the slideshow format, that sometimes stops working on mobile browsers and has glacial loading times.

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Losifer
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3/24/2023 3:09pm
My best guess would be that rather than having a different controller for the dropper and shifter, they are using identical controllers that are interchangeable and...

My best guess would be that rather than having a different controller for the dropper and shifter, they are using identical controllers that are interchangeable and mountable on either side of the Handlebar.  That way they only have to manufacture 1 controller.  I also heard rumors that they are going to make the 2nd button on the dropper controller able to control the modes of Flight Attendant without taking your hands off the bars.  

Of course it is. My post was in jest… I’m assuming there’s a less than 2% demand for fully automatic seat posts. 

Of course it is. My post was in jest… I’m assuming there’s a less than 2% demand for fully automatic seat posts. Tongue

I'm guessing less than .2%

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bikelurker
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3/24/2023 3:13pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:
Lotsa changes. Wonder if Jack Moir will settle into the year and revert back to a more historically normal bike setup for him, or if he's...

Lotsa changes. Wonder if Jack Moir will settle into the year and revert back to a more historically normal bike setup for him, or if he's planning on running the super mega enduro downhill bike for the rest of the season. Especially odd because it seems like a lot of riders are underbiking for Maydena vs. a lot of the steep and deep Euro rounds and Whistler. Things to watch. If we're to believe those parts specs in his bike check, Jack is running for the first time:

190mm fork

Cushcore front and rear, or at all

Coil shock

Longer reach frame

Its probably closer to 170 vertical travel at that head angle anyway

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matmattmatthew
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3/24/2023 3:25pm
My best guess would be that rather than having a different controller for the dropper and shifter, they are using identical controllers that are interchangeable and...

My best guess would be that rather than having a different controller for the dropper and shifter, they are using identical controllers that are interchangeable and mountable on either side of the Handlebar.  That way they only have to manufacture 1 controller.  I also heard rumors that they are going to make the 2nd button on the dropper controller able to control the modes of Flight Attendant without taking your hands off the bars.  

Of course it is. My post was in jest… I’m assuming there’s a less than 2% demand for fully automatic seat posts. 

Of course it is. My post was in jest… I’m assuming there’s a less than 2% demand for fully automatic seat posts. Tongue

Funny enough, there have been more than a few companies that have tried to make droppers that drop on their own.  I think they were intended for XC races so they wouldn't have to "exert" any energy to drop the post during races.  

3/24/2023 3:40pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:
Lotsa changes. Wonder if Jack Moir will settle into the year and revert back to a more historically normal bike setup for him, or if he's...

Lotsa changes. Wonder if Jack Moir will settle into the year and revert back to a more historically normal bike setup for him, or if he's planning on running the super mega enduro downhill bike for the rest of the season. Especially odd because it seems like a lot of riders are underbiking for Maydena vs. a lot of the steep and deep Euro rounds and Whistler. Things to watch. If we're to believe those parts specs in his bike check, Jack is running for the first time:

190mm fork

Cushcore front and rear, or at all

Coil shock

Longer reach frame

A few of the riders are surprised that Maydena is steeper than they thought, most people hadn't ridden here (Jack obviously has) but its much steeper than Derby and a lot rougher over all. Maybe Jack has gone the "plush" setup for his hand?

 

Losifer
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3/24/2023 4:33pm

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Well, maybe instead of SRAM developing a Time flat pedal, maybe they’ll just rebadge these?

 

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Uncle Cliffy
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3/24/2023 5:14pm
Losifer wrote:

I'm guessing less than .2%

You’re underestimating the amount of newbies I’ve seen come in to a shop and ask “Where is the button to make it go down?” Huh

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3/24/2023 5:30pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:
Lotsa changes. Wonder if Jack Moir will settle into the year and revert back to a more historically normal bike setup for him, or if he's...

Lotsa changes. Wonder if Jack Moir will settle into the year and revert back to a more historically normal bike setup for him, or if he's planning on running the super mega enduro downhill bike for the rest of the season. Especially odd because it seems like a lot of riders are underbiking for Maydena vs. a lot of the steep and deep Euro rounds and Whistler. Things to watch. If we're to believe those parts specs in his bike check, Jack is running for the first time:

190mm fork

Cushcore front and rear, or at all

Coil shock

Longer reach frame

A few of the riders are surprised that Maydena is steeper than they thought, most people hadn't ridden here (Jack obviously has) but its much steeper...

A few of the riders are surprised that Maydena is steeper than they thought, most people hadn't ridden here (Jack obviously has) but its much steeper than Derby and a lot rougher over all. Maybe Jack has gone the "plush" setup for his hand?

 

I watched the last Moi Moi TV and it sounded like that’s what his aim was. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zsePIYXipGE

around the 11:30 mark he discusses softer spring rate with his mechanic.

sspomer
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3/24/2023 7:18pm

fyi, i was asked to nuke the photos of the calipers, so i did. sorry.

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3/24/2023 9:38pm
Losifer wrote:
Well, maybe instead of SRAM developing a Time flat pedal, maybe they’ll just rebadge these?    

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Well, maybe instead of SRAM developing a Time flat pedal, maybe they’ll just rebadge these?

 

It's not a SRAM pedal, just badged for the race team. 

 

3/24/2023 11:21pm
sspomer wrote:

fyi, i was asked to nuke the photos of the calipers, so i did. sorry.

neuralyzer.jpg?VersionId=Yl4tckx L5eQl80lkxH.2RV68iF

 

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3/24/2023 11:24pm
Losifer wrote:
Well, maybe instead of SRAM developing a Time flat pedal, maybe they’ll just rebadge these?    

5AE7CC61-A245-4A68-8F0B-3F1E3197525B

Well, maybe instead of SRAM developing a Time flat pedal, maybe they’ll just rebadge these?

 

Probably Nukeproof pedal with team laser etching 

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lickmycrinkle
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3/25/2023 3:05am

Transition Factory Racing-2 2

 Here's hoping the 38mm Boxxer does actually have the same Zeb casting and bolt pattern for the fenders, the front lip on that fender looks just right. Current Zeb fender is a bit weak.

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hardbash
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3/25/2023 3:25am

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Good thing the new Calipers are around somewhere else on the internet as well haha

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PisgahGnar
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3/25/2023 4:42am Edited Date/Time 3/25/2023 4:45am

It’s looks like the rear triangle on Rhys Verners Dreadnought is different, or he is riding the DH bike with a single crown? The bracing at the top tube to seatstay is not on the dreadnought frame. His bike also does not have the team colorway. 
 

IMG 1353

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jonkranked
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3/25/2023 7:34am

Not a rumor or innovation per se but thought this was worth sharing (apologies if I missed it previously)

Screenshot 1 bd7a2ede-da8b-41e8-a683-14598ad4e691 1600x.png?VersionId=B

 

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Onawalk
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3/25/2023 9:00am
My best guess would be that rather than having a different controller for the dropper and shifter, they are using identical controllers that are interchangeable and...

My best guess would be that rather than having a different controller for the dropper and shifter, they are using identical controllers that are interchangeable and mountable on either side of the Handlebar.  That way they only have to manufacture 1 controller.  I also heard rumors that they are going to make the 2nd button on the dropper controller able to control the modes of Flight Attendant without taking your hands off the bars.  

Of course it is. My post was in jest… I’m assuming there’s a less than 2% demand for fully automatic seat posts. 

Of course it is. My post was in jest… I’m assuming there’s a less than 2% demand for fully automatic seat posts. Tongue

Losifer wrote:

I'm guessing less than .2%

I would friggin love a fully auto seatpost!

I get myself caught out a bunch having to sit back down at the top of steep techy climbs, just before they drop back in.  It would make me want to buy a $1000 AXS post if it had the option to to do both automagically

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ROBBIS TV
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3/25/2023 9:42am Edited Date/Time 3/25/2023 9:43am
PisgahGnar wrote:
It’s looks like the rear triangle on Rhys Verners Dreadnought is different, or he is riding the DH bike with a single crown? The bracing at...

It’s looks like the rear triangle on Rhys Verners Dreadnought is different, or he is riding the DH bike with a single crown? The bracing at the top tube to seatstay is not on the dreadnought frame. His bike also does not have the team colorway. 
 

IMG 1353

 IMG 1352.png?VersionId=857yImy79nBbd0IUZ

 IMG 1351.png?VersionId=Vq9CvHDXaO 5VrjswNPjJV4rfb

 

Yeah when you compare it to the DH bike they're going to be releasing in a few months, it's the same. It's looks likely to be either the DH frame with modified links or it's a short travel version using the same design (different to the Dreadnought, and Druid).

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kev.1n
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3/25/2023 11:07am

Damn, wish Ibis would just release this bike already...

(grabbed from the other site)

Screenshot 2023-03-25 at 11.03.36 AM.png?VersionId=LVlQmuRZstFNaDEmxgyZDdwSx2Di

 

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3/25/2023 11:33am
kev.1n wrote:
Damn, wish Ibis would just release this bike already... (grabbed from the other site)  

Damn, wish Ibis would just release this bike already...

(grabbed from the other site)

Screenshot 2023-03-25 at 11.03.36 AM.png?VersionId=LVlQmuRZstFNaDEmxgyZDdwSx2Di

 

My brain says it'll be the HD6 but my heart wants it to be the Ripmost (Ripmo R? Ripmax?)

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3/25/2023 12:09pm

I’m hoping down the road we see an AF version!

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3/25/2023 1:29pm
jonkranked wrote:
Not a rumor or innovation per se but thought this was worth sharing (apologies if I missed it previously)  

Not a rumor or innovation per se but thought this was worth sharing (apologies if I missed it previously)

Screenshot 1 bd7a2ede-da8b-41e8-a683-14598ad4e691 1600x.png?VersionId=B

 

Any one else hear Jimi in their head right away?

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boozed
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3/25/2023 4:29pm Edited Date/Time 3/25/2023 4:37pm
Of course it is. My post was in jest… I’m assuming there’s a less than 2% demand for fully automatic seat posts. 

Of course it is. My post was in jest… I’m assuming there’s a less than 2% demand for fully automatic seat posts. Tongue

Losifer wrote:

I'm guessing less than .2%

Onawalk wrote:
I would friggin love a fully auto seatpost! I get myself caught out a bunch having to sit back down at the top of steep techy...

I would friggin love a fully auto seatpost!

I get myself caught out a bunch having to sit back down at the top of steep techy climbs, just before they drop back in.  It would make me want to buy a $1000 AXS post if it had the option to to do both automagically

Compressed air powered autodroppers exist but I believe they're intended for XC race use, so the travel's probably minimal.  I don't know how many actuations you get out of an air charge but enough for an XCO race, I suppose.

Edit: I was thinking of the BMC Autodrop, which is an option on the Fourstroke, is integrated into the frame and drops only 80mm...

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metadave
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3/25/2023 11:11pm Edited Date/Time 3/26/2023 8:28pm
Of course it is. My post was in jest… I’m assuming there’s a less than 2% demand for fully automatic seat posts. 

Of course it is. My post was in jest… I’m assuming there’s a less than 2% demand for fully automatic seat posts. Tongue

Losifer wrote:

I'm guessing less than .2%

Onawalk wrote:
I would friggin love a fully auto seatpost! I get myself caught out a bunch having to sit back down at the top of steep techy...

I would friggin love a fully auto seatpost!

I get myself caught out a bunch having to sit back down at the top of steep techy climbs, just before they drop back in.  It would make me want to buy a $1000 AXS post if it had the option to to do both automagically

If this happens, I'll be waiting patiently on the axs plug remote that automatically drops the post to the bottom of the stroke when my butt puckers. 

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3/26/2023 1:19am

A nicer look at the Forbidden enduro flipped-Horst prototype, courtesy of AMBMagScreenshot 20230326 005730 Instagram.jpg?VersionId=uNv5wwYeyg4s.tl0t

 

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3/26/2023 3:22am

Head tube looks very weird, a few of the Aussies are staying on at Maydena to test the new "vivid" air shock by Rockshox, will try get the scoop

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3/26/2023 5:22am

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 New Hope rim potentially? Could be another brand re-badged, but definitely not a rim that hope currently sell 

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