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don't be dump

Liked a comment on the item Privateer's E-161 E-Bike is Coming 9/1/2020 1:48 PM

The People want the 141

Added a comment about press release Privateer's E-161 E-Bike is Coming 8/31/2020 6:19 PM
slimshady

And there it goes, down the drain, that credibility they worked so hard to build...

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Liked a comment on the item Giant's All-New Trance X 29 8/6/2020 5:35 AM

Finally someone’s spec’ing a Shimano drivetrain

Added a comment about press release Giant's All-New Trance X 29 8/6/2020 5:35 AM
slimshady

I for one like SRAM drivetrains better (got used to the shifters ergonomics a long time ago and it's simply hard to go anywhere else), but man speccing anything but Shimano in the 12 speed segment this year is simply nuts. Better quality and finishing all around, and effortless shifting. What's not to like with it?

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Added a comment about video 72 Hours of Maribor and Other Torture Tests at FOX 7/28/2020 5:54 PM

Yo Fox, what's the story behind the Slick Graphics Cease & Desist? Didn't you guys license your graphs to them? What happens to Marzocchi now the brand is under your brand?

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Liked a comment on the item Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/15/2020 6:00 PM

Eh, tribe is used internationally for groups of people from a wide array of ethnicities. I’d say that viewing the word tribe as a term that only applies to native Americans and that it marginalizes them is the epitome of a white American point of view.

Liked a comment on the item Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/14/2020 8:16 PM

I'd buy ya a beer if I could. Actually, I can. PM me your venmo and I will. wink

(I do this on my podcast too...so don't be too weirded out!)

Liked a comment on the item Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/14/2020 8:16 PM

Wow, kudos for finding a way to fit the words oppression, privilege, freedom and vindication all within three short paragraphs. In all seriousness, this is the wokest thing written on Vital maybe ever.

Yeti changing a name changes NOTHING for Native Americans. Go ahead, call any...more

Liked a comment on the item Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/14/2020 8:16 PM

I'd just like to remind everyone bikes are still cool, yeti is still a great company, and being critical of something doesn't mean we "hate" each other.

Sparring intellectually is okay. We used to do this all the time. I'd like to bring it back.

Just a friendly reminder despite...more

Added a comment about press release Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/14/2020 8:10 PM
slimshady

Well, seems like Vital is having some issues with nesting the comments, so I'm replying here:

Thanks! Your wise words made my day already, no need for the beer. I love it when I go to bed after learning something, so I'm counting this day as a good one.

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Added a comment about press release Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/14/2020 8:00 PM
slimshady

I have to apologize for not reading your comment before replying below. And I have to admit you just made some seriously valid points right here.

I stand corrected. Thanks for bringing such a concise and consistent explanation. You have given me a lot to think about, but at first you put the spotlight where it should be: I was being naive and jumped on a bandwagon of political correctness.

Thanks again. I won't delete/edit my other comments simply because I think they might help someone else who could fall into the same onanistic thinking I was before reading that last comment of yours. And also because negating my mistake won't do anything to correct it.

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Added a comment about press release Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/14/2020 7:35 PM
slimshady

I'm saying it in the current context, within the current movement to highlight certain inequities which tend to be toned down or directly shadowed by the statu quo. If you are white and middle class in the US, you detent some privileges other minorities don't.

Here in the MTB community the presence of not Caucasian personalities is scarce at best.

To be clear: I'm not advocating for an uproar or any other violent behavior. I'm just saying most if the populace might be accustomed to using certain terms regularly, but if we want to move to a more equal society, we need to start doing so, even if it's with these seemingly small gestures.

All in all I'm reading a lot of comments complaining about feeling threatened into changing the way they refer to something. It's kinda natural, we all feel uneasy when someone/something pushes us away from our comfort zone. Yet sometimes we need to take into account that comfort zone might work for us, but it means oppression for some other people. Slavery and social bias were once socially acceptable, later it was relaxed to racial segregation, etc.

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Added a comment about press release Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/14/2020 7:22 PM
slimshady

Point taken. I was trying to appeal to a broader spectrum of the people participating in this thread and failed to get your joke.

My apologies.

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Added a comment about press release Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/14/2020 5:56 PM
slimshady

It's a matter of privilege. If you're part of the privileged group, you won't notice it.

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Added a comment about press release Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/14/2020 5:05 PM
slimshady

Reading through the comments here and at PB I came to realize there's a growing trend in the US to privilege the freedom at all costs, even when it means the oppression and demeaning of an already oppressed and demeaned minority will be perpetuated.

What you are essentially voicing here is your wish to remain part of a privileged segment of the population. I get it, you feel menaced by those trying to get a bigger cut off the pie than they were traditionally allowed to, but it doesn't change the fact that if you advocate for a more equal society, you need to put your actions where your mouth is.

There's no absolute freedom, and by no means your right to be upset because you feel Yeti crumbled under pressure can be put before the vindication of a marginated part of the society.

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Liked a comment on the item Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/14/2020 5:04 PM

Hey Jeff! Weird that you would comment in response to my posts, but not actually reply to me or mention my name... but, since you're clearly speaking to me, I'm going to speak back to you.

The point is not that "nothing [should ever be] offensive to anyone ever," the point is that...more

Liked a comment on the item Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/14/2020 5:03 PM

Looks like there are a lot of but hurt yeti riders in here. Whats the big deal? People felt offended by a slogan and Yeti obliged and changed it. Can't y'all put yourself in someone else's shoes for a second? Should we only change things that EVERYONE agrees is bad?

Not sure why...more

Liked a comment on the item Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/14/2020 5:03 PM

I'm offended that someone is offended by something that doesn't offend me, and I'm not a ROBOT who's easily offended.

Liked a comment on the item Yeti Cycles Abandons Use of Tribe in Marketing 7/14/2020 4:26 PM

It's called cultural appropriation. And it's going out of style. Feel free to remain stuck in the past.