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Primoz 7/13/2022 9:08pm
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Primoz wrote:
New upcoming Code caliper. Already covered in this topic.
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Page 247 and Leogang pit bits 2.
manny.bike 7/13/2022 10:12pm
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Later in the Video you can see the shock.
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NOOOOOO. I was so hoping for a EXT DH fork but not an usd fork. I'm sad. Hopefully its not mega flexy and it doesn't cost like 5000 euros
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gibbon 7/14/2022 12:27am
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Primoz wrote:
THe frame is in the way to be able to look through the caliper. You can do it from behind maybe, but then it's a pain...
THe frame is in the way to be able to look through the caliper. You can do it from behind maybe, but then it's a pain to tighten the caliper back up. And dealing with the screws, the way they are positioned now, is going to be a pain anyway. Even the horst-link/linkage driven single pivot bikes with the calipers 'inside' the triangle (older Commencal Metas, Kavenz VHP, etc.) are a pain to deal with in that regard.

RE Fox stuff, I tried to see if anything was shown in the videos, no wires, no actuator and no sensors visible on Eddie's bike. Same goes for the 'final' shot with Jordi and Evan, so looks like only Eddie is running the new stuff (and Jesse obvs).

Maybe Jesse can chime in? :D
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Who? Me?

I don't know what you're talking about...I've been having a lot of fun dialling in my suspension recently though!
brash wrote:
yes, all my usual testing is done with a Mechatronic Engineer too lol.
Wasn't he Megatrons nephew?
Legend says if you say 'Jesse' 3 times in a row he will appear.
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FullSend 7/14/2022 2:37am
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29 wrote:
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OMG YES! Please make a single crown version!!! I'd buy 3!
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Primoz 7/14/2022 2:49am
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OMG YES! Please make a single crown version!!! I'd buy 3!
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Noeserd 7/14/2022 6:12am
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Banshee teasing a new bike


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sspomer 7/14/2022 6:53am
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some andorra pit bits (didn't see anything super crazy) and NS proto "floating pivot" DH bike on homepage here.

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hitar_potar 7/14/2022 6:57am
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sspomer wrote:
some andorra pit bits (didn't see anything super crazy) and NS proto "floating pivot" DH bike on homepage here. [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/14/12730/s1200_DSCF7045.jpg[/img]
some andorra pit bits (didn't see anything super crazy) and NS proto "floating pivot" DH bike on homepage here.

Someone’s been learning a lot from Commencal Supreme’s close pics, it seems… :D
Lacanuck24 7/14/2022 7:05am
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some "borrowed" photos. Is the random wire that I'd assume is going to the X2 not a big deal or has it been discussed already?



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BlazersDad89 7/14/2022 7:29am
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Noeserd wrote:
Banshee teasing a new bike [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/14/12729/s1200_Screenshot_20220714_160958_Instagram.jpg[/img]
Banshee teasing a new bike


Hardtail Party has already been talking about this one. 150mm 27.5 hardtail for goofing around.
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Lacanuck24 wrote:
some "borrowed" photos. Is the random wire that I'd assume is going to the X2 not a big deal or has it been discussed already? [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/14/12731/s1200_commencal_wire_2.jpg[/img]...
some "borrowed" photos. Is the random wire that I'd assume is going to the X2 not a big deal or has it been discussed already?



I could be wrong, but I'm guessing that's just telemetry wires in those photos.
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jonkranked 7/14/2022 9:09am
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Noeserd wrote:
Banshee teasing a new bike [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/14/12729/s1200_Screenshot_20220714_160958_Instagram.jpg[/img]
Banshee teasing a new bike


BlazersDad89 wrote:
Hardtail Party has already been talking about this one. 150mm 27.5 hardtail for goofing around.
it's already on their website:

https://www.bansheebikes.com/enigma
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Velocipedestrian 7/14/2022 6:37pm
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Noeserd wrote:
Banshee teasing a new bike [img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/photos/forums/2022/07/14/12729/s1200_Screenshot_20220714_160958_Instagram.jpg[/img]
Banshee teasing a new bike


BlazersDad89 wrote:
Hardtail Party has already been talking about this one. 150mm 27.5 hardtail for goofing around.
jonkranked wrote:
it's already on their website:

https://www.bansheebikes.com/enigma
Back to external routing, yes please!
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FqqTBawL 7/15/2022 5:18am
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Rumour is Mondraker is releasing an enduro bike with 31" front wheel, and fox is currently sorting a fork for them. Mullet with 29 in the back and will run 0mm stem.
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juliusk 7/15/2022 5:32am
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FqqTBawL wrote:
Rumour is Mondraker is releasing an enduro bike with 31" front wheel, and fox is currently sorting a fork for them. Mullet with 29 in the...
Rumour is Mondraker is releasing an enduro bike with 31" front wheel, and fox is currently sorting a fork for them. Mullet with 29 in the back and will run 0mm stem.
Where do you have that from?
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krabo83 7/15/2022 5:53am
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FqqTBawL wrote:
Rumour is Mondraker is releasing an enduro bike with 31" front wheel, and fox is currently sorting a fork for them. Mullet with 29 in the...
Rumour is Mondraker is releasing an enduro bike with 31" front wheel, and fox is currently sorting a fork for them. Mullet with 29 in the back and will run 0mm stem.
sounds so incredibly stupid.
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FqqTBawL wrote:
Rumour is Mondraker is releasing an enduro bike with 31" front wheel, and fox is currently sorting a fork for them. Mullet with 29 in the...
Rumour is Mondraker is releasing an enduro bike with 31" front wheel, and fox is currently sorting a fork for them. Mullet with 29 in the back and will run 0mm stem.
Fork lowers would need a new casting, kinda pricey. Good tires would require very expensive molds, that's the main difficulty. Also why 31"? 32" unicycles exist, a quick google didn't show any 32" tires that'd be any good for mtb tho.
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jonkranked 7/15/2022 7:09am
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kcy4130 wrote:
Fork lowers would need a new casting, kinda pricey. Good tires would require very expensive molds, that's the main difficulty. Also why 31"? 32" unicycles exist...
Fork lowers would need a new casting, kinda pricey. Good tires would require very expensive molds, that's the main difficulty. Also why 31"? 32" unicycles exist, a quick google didn't show any 32" tires that'd be any good for mtb tho.
IIRC the earliest 29" dh bike experiment (lenz pbj i think?) used a travel limited inverted fork (dorabo) to clear a 29" tire. would be one possible solution to pursue for a fork, but wouldn't address the tires themselves.
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kcy4130 7/15/2022 7:44am
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jonkranked wrote:
IIRC the earliest 29" dh bike experiment (lenz pbj i think?) used a travel limited inverted fork (dorabo) to clear a 29" tire. would be one...
IIRC the earliest 29" dh bike experiment (lenz pbj i think?) used a travel limited inverted fork (dorabo) to clear a 29" tire. would be one possible solution to pursue for a fork, but wouldn't address the tires themselves.
A production usd with shortened travel (or custom longer stanchions and some spacers) would be the way to do it for experimenting/prototyping. But he says "releasing" which makes it sound like a production bike, and fox hasn't ever sold an usd fork (right?). Wouldn't be on brand for fox. As interesting as it'd be, I'm highly skeptical about this mondraker 31" rumor.
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Brian_Peterson 7/15/2022 8:41am
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FqqTBawL wrote:
Rumour is Mondraker is releasing an enduro bike with 31" front wheel, and fox is currently sorting a fork for them. Mullet with 29 in the...
Rumour is Mondraker is releasing an enduro bike with 31" front wheel, and fox is currently sorting a fork for them. Mullet with 29 in the back and will run 0mm stem.
A little bit early for April 1...
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FqqTBawL wrote:
Rumour is Mondraker is releasing an enduro bike with 31" front wheel, and fox is currently sorting a fork for them. Mullet with 29 in the...
Rumour is Mondraker is releasing an enduro bike with 31" front wheel, and fox is currently sorting a fork for them. Mullet with 29 in the back and will run 0mm stem.
Super cool,
If only to get people more riled up like it has any sort of bearing or impact on their lives.

Cant wait for the immediate hate and skepticism of something they’ve never tried….
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FqqTBawL 7/15/2022 12:25pm
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FqqTBawL wrote:
Rumour is Mondraker is releasing an enduro bike with 31" front wheel, and fox is currently sorting a fork for them. Mullet with 29 in the...
Rumour is Mondraker is releasing an enduro bike with 31" front wheel, and fox is currently sorting a fork for them. Mullet with 29 in the back and will run 0mm stem.
juliusk wrote:
Where do you have that from?
Anon Fox suspension employee
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Mondraker & FOX will release a mountainbike with a 31" front wheel in 2024

As the title says, Mondraker is developing an enduro mtb with a 31" front wheel and a 29er in the back. For this they teamed up with FOX to manufacture the forks. They are using in-house prototype wheels and prototype tires made by Hutchinson. For the new 31" forks FOX had to make the lowers 1 inch longer to fit the bigger wheel and also make the whole fork thicker to increase stiffness. Mondraker told us, that they will equip the new bikes with a stem, that is effectively 0 mm long and sits directly above the forks shaft to make the handling more agile. No word on naming yet.

Source: I work in a FOX factory



Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/mountainbiking/comments/vzmrbm/mondraker_fox_w…
noideamtber 7/15/2022 6:59pm
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Hook, line and sinker. Its a throwaway account and hes stirring it up based on a recent video of mondraker being the kings of making history from when they went super long first.
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Brian_Peterson 7/15/2022 9:33pm
7/15/2022 9:33pm
I'll believe it when I see it.
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melonhead1145 7/16/2022 4:57am
7/16/2022 4:57am
Considering the amount of DH WC and EWS racers running mullets, I think it's obvious 29 is too big in the rear for a lot of riders
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bulletbass man 7/16/2022 9:00am
7/16/2022 9:00am
Finns bike the chain stays are super laterally flexy but still tracks a ton. His bike is visually doing something pretty different out there.
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Aksel_Lfft 7/16/2022 9:56am
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bulletbass man wrote:
Finns bike the chain stays are super laterally flexy but still tracks a ton. His bike is visually doing something pretty different out there.
From slow mo vids we can also see that it's going backward when compressed, indicating that it's connected to links ?
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