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Mayb the thread should be retitled, something like “tech rumors and innovation… and bitching about it.”

I am not seeing how the last 4 pages of this thread have anything to do with rumors or innovation.

Jesus, sorry I asked about a coil shock on the new Tallboy.

I recently read an article by the enduro mag. They made a survey and found out that 70% of their readers that took part in the survey never changed their rebound from what the bike came with. The amount of people riding bikes that dont have a clue about basic setup is very high. For them, something like the progression rate is not relevant. We are all so far off the average user that we are not who brands have to engineer their bikes for. https://enduro-mtb.com/performance-gap-das-dilemma-moderner-bikes/

The accountants

Maybe Im missing something but how in the right mind is a company like Santa Cruz releasing a bike with very little travel, high price point, and the rear shock comes stock with all of its tokens in use? If you needed more resistance youre just up shit creek until Cascade makes something? Im genuinely so confused how they go from a well done VPP to a simple 4 bar and screwed that up when every other company can do it. Like who signed off on this?

Here I was about to defend air shocks on shorter travel bikes, but after reading that it requires that much air ramp I agree… wtf. Is it 2019 transition sentinel all over again?

@CascadeComponents right now...

That sounds an awful lot like they actually didn't get the leverage curve they wanted. Nothing wrong with designing a frame to work with the natural progressivity of an air shock, but if you use all the volume spacers in the air shock you spec stock, you probably would be better served with a more progressive leverage curve.

That’s why you don’t buy transitions and buy Santa Cruz lol

Is “a lot” more or less than twice a year? Because twice a year sounds like a lot to me.

Remember the good old days when we talked about bikes on here?

evil DH bike?

some would say bikes shouldn’t have motors either but here we are.

Doping is always a step ahead, only the dumb dopers get caught

Is enduro still a thing ?

Maybe it's just our reps have been spotty with Orbea but they can be a pain to work with, and people seem to leave the brand quickly. The bikes are totally fine from a design standpoint, but they have been some of the most obnoxious bikes to work on or deal with warranty issues with. Their headset routing is awful too, worse than Scott's by far haha

PB to scroll, Vital to read

Or Dario at the very least...

Nice to know I'm not the only one who visits both pages... I still think we need the PB guys on the Bikes Unaffiliated pod..