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thresh
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New SRAM stuff is prohibitively expensive. Still buy and use GX Eagle. Why would I need anything else? I’m a gravity rider…my derailleur goes through hell...

New SRAM stuff is prohibitively expensive. Still buy and use GX Eagle. Why would I need anything else? I’m a gravity rider…my derailleur goes through hell. The last thing I want is to put a $600 derailleur on my bike. Upgrades to shifting? It’s a drivetrain…I click the shifter and the chain changes gear. What is there to upgrade?

I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine) and with a small hack it can still work with the regular Eagle cassettes - which are a bit cheaper than the T-Type counterparts.  Don't fancy buying another thing I'll forget to charge (already did that with first-gen AXS thanks but no thanks)

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New SRAM stuff is prohibitively expensive. Still buy and use GX Eagle. Why would I need anything else? I’m a gravity rider…my derailleur goes through hell...

New SRAM stuff is prohibitively expensive. Still buy and use GX Eagle. Why would I need anything else? I’m a gravity rider…my derailleur goes through hell. The last thing I want is to put a $600 derailleur on my bike. Upgrades to shifting? It’s a drivetrain…I click the shifter and the chain changes gear. What is there to upgrade?

thresh wrote:
I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine)...

I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine) and with a small hack it can still work with the regular Eagle cassettes - which are a bit cheaper than the T-Type counterparts.  Don't fancy buying another thing I'll forget to charge (already did that with first-gen AXS thanks but no thanks)

What’s the small hack?

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New SRAM stuff is prohibitively expensive. Still buy and use GX Eagle. Why would I need anything else? I’m a gravity rider…my derailleur goes through hell...

New SRAM stuff is prohibitively expensive. Still buy and use GX Eagle. Why would I need anything else? I’m a gravity rider…my derailleur goes through hell. The last thing I want is to put a $600 derailleur on my bike. Upgrades to shifting? It’s a drivetrain…I click the shifter and the chain changes gear. What is there to upgrade?

thresh wrote:
I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine)...

I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine) and with a small hack it can still work with the regular Eagle cassettes - which are a bit cheaper than the T-Type counterparts.  Don't fancy buying another thing I'll forget to charge (already did that with first-gen AXS thanks but no thanks)

ioni wrote:

What’s the small hack?

Move the jockey wheels three mm inward.  You need a spacer.

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New SRAM stuff is prohibitively expensive. Still buy and use GX Eagle. Why would I need anything else? I’m a gravity rider…my derailleur goes through hell...

New SRAM stuff is prohibitively expensive. Still buy and use GX Eagle. Why would I need anything else? I’m a gravity rider…my derailleur goes through hell. The last thing I want is to put a $600 derailleur on my bike. Upgrades to shifting? It’s a drivetrain…I click the shifter and the chain changes gear. What is there to upgrade?

thresh wrote:
I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine)...

I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine) and with a small hack it can still work with the regular Eagle cassettes - which are a bit cheaper than the T-Type counterparts.  Don't fancy buying another thing I'll forget to charge (already did that with first-gen AXS thanks but no thanks)

Clutch on the Eagle 90 has me intrigued plus the UDH. Traditional hangers bend so easily. Thanks for the tip.

My two cents. Marginal gains are for professionals. Mere mortals benefit from gym, good diet, sleep, and riding your bike more not drivetrains that have batteries and cost a month of rent.

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New SRAM stuff is prohibitively expensive. Still buy and use GX Eagle. Why would I need anything else? I’m a gravity rider…my derailleur goes through hell...

New SRAM stuff is prohibitively expensive. Still buy and use GX Eagle. Why would I need anything else? I’m a gravity rider…my derailleur goes through hell. The last thing I want is to put a $600 derailleur on my bike. Upgrades to shifting? It’s a drivetrain…I click the shifter and the chain changes gear. What is there to upgrade?

thresh wrote:
I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine)...

I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine) and with a small hack it can still work with the regular Eagle cassettes - which are a bit cheaper than the T-Type counterparts.  Don't fancy buying another thing I'll forget to charge (already did that with first-gen AXS thanks but no thanks)

The gearing on the T-type cassettes has honestly been my favorite thing about it. 

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New SRAM stuff is prohibitively expensive. Still buy and use GX Eagle. Why would I need anything else? I’m a gravity rider…my derailleur goes through hell...

New SRAM stuff is prohibitively expensive. Still buy and use GX Eagle. Why would I need anything else? I’m a gravity rider…my derailleur goes through hell. The last thing I want is to put a $600 derailleur on my bike. Upgrades to shifting? It’s a drivetrain…I click the shifter and the chain changes gear. What is there to upgrade?

thresh wrote:
I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine)...

I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine) and with a small hack it can still work with the regular Eagle cassettes - which are a bit cheaper than the T-Type counterparts.  Don't fancy buying another thing I'll forget to charge (already did that with first-gen AXS thanks but no thanks)

Clutch on the Eagle 90 has me intrigued plus the UDH. Traditional hangers bend so easily. Thanks for the tip.My two cents. Marginal gains are for...

Clutch on the Eagle 90 has me intrigued plus the UDH. Traditional hangers bend so easily. Thanks for the tip.

My two cents. Marginal gains are for professionals. Mere mortals benefit from gym, good diet, sleep, and riding your bike more not drivetrains that have batteries and cost a month of rent.

Must we, every 3 months, have this same tired drivetrain discussion. You like what you like, I like what I like. No one cares. Start a new topic if you guys want to duke it out about how terrible the wireless world is. 

Back to the rumors: 30T ochains on more builds in the future from a few brands. 

 

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thresh wrote:
I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine)...

I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine) and with a small hack it can still work with the regular Eagle cassettes - which are a bit cheaper than the T-Type counterparts.  Don't fancy buying another thing I'll forget to charge (already did that with first-gen AXS thanks but no thanks)

ioni wrote:

What’s the small hack?

thresh wrote:

Move the jockey wheels three mm inward.  You need a spacer.

Anyone get a transmission 90 to play nice with an XO eagle shifter 

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I would love to know if they new stronger springs Shimano are using to address the noise complaints are retrofittable. They should communicate that.

I think I saw somewhere a how to for changing them, cant find it now.

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ioni wrote:

What’s the small hack?

thresh wrote:

Move the jockey wheels three mm inward.  You need a spacer.

ahleic09 wrote:

Anyone get a transmission 90 to play nice with an XO eagle shifter 

At some stage I’ve seen someone doing some mods mixing up t type and eagle shifters to make the eagle 90 click nicely like a x01


If I ever remember where I’ve seen it I’ll post it 

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thresh wrote:

Move the jockey wheels three mm inward.  You need a spacer.

ahleic09 wrote:

Anyone get a transmission 90 to play nice with an XO eagle shifter 

Evil96 wrote:
At some stage I’ve seen someone doing some mods mixing up t type and eagle shifters to make the eagle 90 click nicely like a x01If...

At some stage I’ve seen someone doing some mods mixing up t type and eagle shifters to make the eagle 90 click nicely like a x01


If I ever remember where I’ve seen it I’ll post it 

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Guys, hear me out, Singlespeed…

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looks like frameworks already have a prototype for 32" to 29" conversion main frame in testing.

IMG 4131 1
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I’ve talked to a couple shops that said that Transition will have “big changes” for MY27. Anyone have insight into the nature of their big changes?

I've heard there is going to be a high end and base model TR11. Otherwise, haven't heard anything. 

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thresh wrote:
I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine)...

I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine) and with a small hack it can still work with the regular Eagle cassettes - which are a bit cheaper than the T-Type counterparts.  Don't fancy buying another thing I'll forget to charge (already did that with first-gen AXS thanks but no thanks)

Clutch on the Eagle 90 has me intrigued plus the UDH. Traditional hangers bend so easily. Thanks for the tip.My two cents. Marginal gains are for...

Clutch on the Eagle 90 has me intrigued plus the UDH. Traditional hangers bend so easily. Thanks for the tip.

My two cents. Marginal gains are for professionals. Mere mortals benefit from gym, good diet, sleep, and riding your bike more not drivetrains that have batteries and cost a month of rent.

DServy wrote:
Must we, every 3 months, have this same tired drivetrain discussion. You like what you like, I like what I like. No one cares. Start a...

Must we, every 3 months, have this same tired drivetrain discussion. You like what you like, I like what I like. No one cares. Start a new topic if you guys want to duke it out about how terrible the wireless world is. 

Back to the rumors: 30T ochains on more builds in the future from a few brands. 

 

My Polaris can beat the hell out of your Arctic Cat, any day.

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ufka_pen15 wrote:
looks like frameworks already have a prototype for 32" to 29" conversion main frame in testing.

looks like frameworks already have a prototype for 32" to 29" conversion main frame in testing.

IMG 4131 1

I want that long headtube. 

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DServy wrote:
Who at sram hurt you? I think I'm on record saying that the only thing worst than The XTR cassette being made of plates and cheese is...

Who at sram hurt you? 

I think I'm on record saying that the only thing worst than The XTR cassette being made of plates and cheese is the awfulness of the microspline driver. A plastic spacer to remove creaking isn't a solution.

Anyways, back to the rumors:

Is Transition the new Yeti? 

I would love to hear why the plastic ring isn't a solution. Do you have a reason for that or are you just saying it? What makes microspline awful? It's the same basic idea that's behind hg freehubs, so what makes it bad? 

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You can get these straight off Etsy these days, wonder if they're waterproof or if you should wax them;

Melania Don't Care - Etsy Ireland

 

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Eae903 wrote:
I would love to hear why the plastic ring isn't a solution. Do you have a reason for that or are you just saying it? What...

I would love to hear why the plastic ring isn't a solution. Do you have a reason for that or are you just saying it? What makes microspline awful? It's the same basic idea that's behind hg freehubs, so what makes it bad? 

In my experience (Deore 12 speed) Microspline hubs get just as chewed up by the cassette as the old HG ones did. What’s the point of that?

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DServy wrote:
Who at sram hurt you? I think I'm on record saying that the only thing worst than The XTR cassette being made of plates and cheese is...

Who at sram hurt you? 

I think I'm on record saying that the only thing worst than The XTR cassette being made of plates and cheese is the awfulness of the microspline driver. A plastic spacer to remove creaking isn't a solution.

Anyways, back to the rumors:

Is Transition the new Yeti? 

Eae903 wrote:
I would love to hear why the plastic ring isn't a solution. Do you have a reason for that or are you just saying it? What...

I would love to hear why the plastic ring isn't a solution. Do you have a reason for that or are you just saying it? What makes microspline awful? It's the same basic idea that's behind hg freehubs, so what makes it bad? 

For one, MicroSpline puts two tiny bearings too far apart, in a flexible envelope. It's a bearing chewing machine.

 

A lot of people is simply replacing the spacer between the bearings with more bearings, to avoid axle flex.

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thresh wrote:
I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine)...

I'm the same. I've put Eagle 90 just because it's sturdier (I've already smashed it against stumps a couple of times and it holds up fine) and with a small hack it can still work with the regular Eagle cassettes - which are a bit cheaper than the T-Type counterparts.  Don't fancy buying another thing I'll forget to charge (already did that with first-gen AXS thanks but no thanks)

Clutch on the Eagle 90 has me intrigued plus the UDH. Traditional hangers bend so easily. Thanks for the tip.My two cents. Marginal gains are for...

Clutch on the Eagle 90 has me intrigued plus the UDH. Traditional hangers bend so easily. Thanks for the tip.

My two cents. Marginal gains are for professionals. Mere mortals benefit from gym, good diet, sleep, and riding your bike more not drivetrains that have batteries and cost a month of rent.

DServy wrote:
Must we, every 3 months, have this same tired drivetrain discussion. You like what you like, I like what I like. No one cares. Start a...

Must we, every 3 months, have this same tired drivetrain discussion. You like what you like, I like what I like. No one cares. Start a new topic if you guys want to duke it out about how terrible the wireless world is. 

Back to the rumors: 30T ochains on more builds in the future from a few brands. 

 

I mean…people drive ridiculous lifted trucks but I’m still going to judge the shit out of you. I’ll ask my therapist what they think about my deep seated hatred for electronic drivetrains. 


Carry on Vital…sorry. I don’t know where else I can be an opiated a-hole other than under the anonymity of the internet.

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Clutch on the Eagle 90 has me intrigued plus the UDH. Traditional hangers bend so easily. Thanks for the tip.My two cents. Marginal gains are for...

Clutch on the Eagle 90 has me intrigued plus the UDH. Traditional hangers bend so easily. Thanks for the tip.

My two cents. Marginal gains are for professionals. Mere mortals benefit from gym, good diet, sleep, and riding your bike more not drivetrains that have batteries and cost a month of rent.

DServy wrote:
Must we, every 3 months, have this same tired drivetrain discussion. You like what you like, I like what I like. No one cares. Start a...

Must we, every 3 months, have this same tired drivetrain discussion. You like what you like, I like what I like. No one cares. Start a new topic if you guys want to duke it out about how terrible the wireless world is. 

Back to the rumors: 30T ochains on more builds in the future from a few brands. 

 

I mean…people drive ridiculous lifted trucks but I’m still going to judge the shit out of you. I’ll ask my therapist what they think about my...

I mean…people drive ridiculous lifted trucks but I’m still going to judge the shit out of you. I’ll ask my therapist what they think about my deep seated hatred for electronic drivetrains. 


Carry on Vital…sorry. I don’t know where else I can be an opiated a-hole other than under the anonymity of the internet.

No one says you can't share you opinions, but I am highly encouraging you to take this amazing opportunity to spearhead your own topic on this amazing form. You can gather all the haters and have a massive long discussion about your preferences in clutch tension in a cohesive form instead of interrupting a thread dedicated to the discussion of new tech. It's not that you shouldn't be spouting your thoughts on vital, it just gets tiring when someone wades into a discussion of new tech decides to complain about new tech. Not to mention the fact that this SRAM vs Shimano discussion happens like every 2 months. 

Trust us, we've already established that I'd be just as slow with 9 gears as I am with 12, doesn't mean my interest in hearing what's new in biking is any less. 

And @TEAMROBOT My ski-doo would totally kick your polaris' ass. 

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I don’t know where else I can be an opiated a-hole...

Well that might explain a few things 😏

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DServy wrote:
Must we, every 3 months, have this same tired drivetrain discussion. You like what you like, I like what I like. No one cares. Start a...

Must we, every 3 months, have this same tired drivetrain discussion. You like what you like, I like what I like. No one cares. Start a new topic if you guys want to duke it out about how terrible the wireless world is. 

Back to the rumors: 30T ochains on more builds in the future from a few brands. 

 

I mean…people drive ridiculous lifted trucks but I’m still going to judge the shit out of you. I’ll ask my therapist what they think about my...

I mean…people drive ridiculous lifted trucks but I’m still going to judge the shit out of you. I’ll ask my therapist what they think about my deep seated hatred for electronic drivetrains. 


Carry on Vital…sorry. I don’t know where else I can be an opiated a-hole other than under the anonymity of the internet.

DServy wrote:
No one says you can't share you opinions, but I am highly encouraging you to take this amazing opportunity to spearhead your own topic on this...

No one says you can't share you opinions, but I am highly encouraging you to take this amazing opportunity to spearhead your own topic on this amazing form. You can gather all the haters and have a massive long discussion about your preferences in clutch tension in a cohesive form instead of interrupting a thread dedicated to the discussion of new tech. It's not that you shouldn't be spouting your thoughts on vital, it just gets tiring when someone wades into a discussion of new tech decides to complain about new tech. Not to mention the fact that this SRAM vs Shimano discussion happens like every 2 months. 

Trust us, we've already established that I'd be just as slow with 9 gears as I am with 12, doesn't mean my interest in hearing what's new in biking is any less. 

And @TEAMROBOT My ski-doo would totally kick your polaris' ass. 

Ok, bromosapien.  You guys take this internet thing quite seriously. Carry on…carry on.

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would love to be able to put some people on ignore in here @sspomer  🤔

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Clutch on the Eagle 90 has me intrigued plus the UDH. Traditional hangers bend so easily. Thanks for the tip.My two cents. Marginal gains are for...

Clutch on the Eagle 90 has me intrigued plus the UDH. Traditional hangers bend so easily. Thanks for the tip.

My two cents. Marginal gains are for professionals. Mere mortals benefit from gym, good diet, sleep, and riding your bike more not drivetrains that have batteries and cost a month of rent.

DServy wrote:
Must we, every 3 months, have this same tired drivetrain discussion. You like what you like, I like what I like. No one cares. Start a...

Must we, every 3 months, have this same tired drivetrain discussion. You like what you like, I like what I like. No one cares. Start a new topic if you guys want to duke it out about how terrible the wireless world is. 

Back to the rumors: 30T ochains on more builds in the future from a few brands. 

 

TEAMROBOT wrote:

My Polaris can beat the hell out of your Arctic Cat, any day.

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