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If you met someone at the trailhead, asked them what % progressive kinematic their frame had and what is the leverage ratio they would look at you like you were an alien holding a rectal probe. "I bought it because it was blue" would be their response. Normal people don't care about this stuff lol. I've tried them all over the years, from literally Regressive designs, through to 45% DH monsters. I keep coming back to 25% been my sweet spot on a coil for an enduro/long travel bike. It's my goldilocks number. What is more important, is the Ratio...

Three example bikes with different progression and same amounts of travel. All straight lines for the sake of simplicity. Force at the wheel due to spring rate alone with each bike having identical sag at the wheel (stiffer spring for more progressive bike). Lets say you are railing a long long berm and your rear wheel needs to support 400 lbs of force… if the berm is long enough shaft speed goes to zero (save for bumps in the berm of course) so spring is what holds you up. 27% bike will sit at 180mm of travel used and 37%...

MTB = Monetary, Tariff, & Budget rumors

Wow, that's crazy. I thought the U.S. has been off the gold standard since Nixon in '71. Oh wait, I don't think we're supposed to get into politics here.

It’s so nice to see so many opinions being shared. Snore. Here’s a frame drawing I saw today.

Yeah when my wireless mouse doesn’t work that’s a good thing because that means I’m physically at work and can’t keep working, and work fuckin blows. When my wireless derailleur dies I’m super bummed because I actually want it to work.

All analogy is suspect but 😉 A laptop computer communicating with a wireless access point is smart. Communicating with a wireless mouse is a mostly harmless gimmick with some legitimate convenience added in some cases. Communicating internally wirelessly, like motherboard to daughter to storage etc, is kind of ridiculous. It’s a job wires are especially well suited to. I’m willing to take the word of the people who swap their wireless dropper post from bike to bike. That’s the mouse in this analogy. I think the wireless derailleur fits the third example best.

continue chainstay length discussions HERE as to not drown the tech rumors out https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/The-Hub,2/The-Internet-Was-Wrong-Short-… started in 2016, @jeff.brines ' "short chainstays suck" thread can live on.

Didn't RM (not exactly budget) do it with the Instinct and Altitude too?

no reason to waste 2025 rumors in the 2024 thread, so here is the 2025 Team Rumors thread. Have at it! https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/2025-team-rumors

SpecialEd - we created this new shock blah blah blah Ohlins - Uh we can just provide you with a progressive damper tune to do the same thing. SpecialEd - We just won't mention that.

Big S is watching us

I’m wondering how crap it will be, GX t-type are shitting themselves and stop working randomly, XO has no clutch tension whatsoever after a couple rides, XX seems to be good, no idea about the XXSL. meh

Sven told Amaury that he thought his winning margin was the modern equivalent of Kovarik's 14+ seconds at Ft. Bill in 2002:

From the EXT site. It's everywhere.

DAMPING

DAMPING!