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Everytime I read or hear the word w i n n i n g e s t, I punch an American in the face.

any and all relationship drama and discussions can be started in a new thread in the OFF THE BIKE forum area, NOT The Hub - https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/VitalMTB/Off-the-Bike,3 - any topics like that started in The Hub will be nuked. any more relationship drama and discussion in this thread will be deleted.

CAN WE PLEASE STOP WITH THE RELATIONSHIP STUFF? this is a dead horse that is now pulp. (not saying i agree with it). PLEASE KEEP IT OUT OF TEAM RUMORS AT THIS POINT Go make another thread if this is that big of a deal for you guys

I wonder how many people freaked out when Kaz said something to the effect of, "It's funny when people in the chat refer to Vital as the other site.. Like you can't say their name here.. We don't care if you visit more than one site. In fact, you should. Get another opinion before spending your money..." This was on the podcast within the last few weeks.

Does anyone seriously believe that 99% of the people in this thread aren’t also in the PB comments. The irony of claiming PB is filled with virtue signalers, while simultaneously saying Vital is better than PB. Both sites have their differences and are staples.

That’s all fake and not worth re posting here.

I think Luca is learning the ways of Troy Brosnan. Shocked to see he is 4th overall. He is 4th overall... While his best finish so far is a 5th. That is a WILDLY consistent rider day in day out qualies to finals. In front of a LOT of dudes who have a cup win.

This is something that Sram does very well. Great support for aftermarket maintenance with rebuild kits for everything they sell. $30 for an alloy RD cage is extremely good value too.

But it's modular now, you only have to replace the broken part not the whole derailleur. (Pay no attention to the fact that the individual replaceable parts are more expensive than an entire derailleur.)

Finally! A proper electronic DH rear derailleur. I've been wondering when we'd be able to pay $1500 to ruin three derailleurs on the same rock in one race weekend. Can't come fast enough.

For inverted forks I clamp the stanchions in the bike stand and remove the bike.

Just clamp the bike in the stand and you don’t need to remove a regular fork for service either…?

… no bike above 10k…

From the consumer side it definitely looks more complex, but from the manufacturing side even with all these options they have still reduced their SKU's, what was previously three bikes has now been wrapped into one frame, the only parts that change are the Rocker links and lower shock mounts which are pretty small and easy to manufacture. Before they had three bikes, the Remedy, Gen 5 Slash and Fuel, each with their own corresponding parts, e.g different rocker links, different chainstays, different seatstays, different frames, etc. Now with the new model, you have one frame, one set of seatstays/chainstays...

No surprise that the giant hole in the downtube requires thicker tubing and more weight. And the return of late 80s/early 90s paint schemes!

my gen 7 ex 8 is approx 15.8-15.9kg... thats nowhere near DH bike's... in its burly config the alloy is similar weight to a Pro's enduro bike ... Comparing to my slightly lighter test bike - spectral AL 6(new one) I dont think i can tell a difference... In stock form the 30t ring gets the cranks moving more but i've since swapped to SLX drivetrain with 32T ring and swapped wheels/tyres, fork and some other bits over and according to my ride Data, theres no measurable difference - i certainly didnt feel any difference(this is based on my Daily...

I want to hate The trek but it looks really good - The amount of options and adjustability I think is a win for the consumer, especially those who want a shortish travel bike but dont want a DH/super enduro when they decide to do the odd park day. and in NZ it's cheaper than gen 6.

Trek had revamped the Fuel line with three different chassis; EX: a 29er with 150/145mm travel, MX: a Mullet with 160/150 travel and LX: 29er with 170/160mm. https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/mountain-bikes/trail-mountain-…