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The 60 certainly makes it more attractive.

I'm starting to feel like a try hard, but yes, I had one for a week. Good suspension tune. Kinematics were suspicious. Wanted an ochain for square edged stuff, surprising amount of chain tugging going on compared to other high pivots. Felt great at speed though. I liked it on steeper bike park stuff where there was good traction and/or supported corners, less so on looser terrain with fast off camber corners. Chalk that up to the short chainstays, though it was better than expected due to the lengthening of the rear end under compression, I presume. I'm firmly of...

I had one too. Felt like a yeti mte/relay with way less power, less range, and worse geo. The couple pounds difference was not noticeable and certainly didn't make up for the kenevo's longish list of shortcomings. It's a pity specialized essentially abandoned that model, it was ahead of it's time 6 years ago. I'd love to see a modern take on it with a tq60 motor, 580wh battery, and modern geo. Essentially a next gen relay. It seems strange to me that manufacturers are really struggling to achieve that.

How have people liked the TQ motor? It's the one motor I haven't been able to try (well DJI now, too) even though it's arguably the most intriguing motor to me, being much smaller/lighter and having higher potential for universal mounting and backwards compatibility for long term ownership. Think the inherent issue is it's still only being run as a lightweight platform and there are what like a few large battery models. MTE, one Propain, and a couple Treks? Or somethin. Wouldn't mind that Propain at the current sale price, but can't even begin to think about that with the...

The new HP60 is the best SL motor out now for those that want a natural riding experience. Great efficiency, quiet, etc.

Which is exactly the sticker they'd put on it if they wanted to deceive us about the real stanchion size...

New Chromag trail bike was on display in the SRAM booth at Crankworx for part of Saturday. A Google of the Reazon name shows Pinkbike has a launch article ready to drop. 135 travel frame. Steel front with aluminum rear end.

Well yeah we have been waiting for the enduro for freaking EVER and we know that will come sooner or later. I didn’t hear specifics but I heard mention of full power long travel, so you could be right about a long travel Levo! I guess it makes sense since the new suspension design specialized has been working on would be hard to integrate a motor into…

That also culminated in gm needing a bailout. And without the tariff protection introduced it’s hard to believe they would have made it that long. And since Obama’s trade in deal removed 100,000 + working cars from the market. The used market has been terrible ever since. I wouldn’t mind if they brought gt back just by making aluminum Santa Cruz’s with budget builds on the other hand. If the bikes are good and they bring back that gt vibe I think that’s a brand that is poised for a comeback with the right momentum behind it.

Mmm great point connecting it with pon!

I am hearing a kenevo is hitting this year… Capitalism just doesn’t work that way. It rewards fragmentation. If all speci sold was an epic and a stumpy I’d agree with you but damn do they make shed loads of nominally different bikes, with even more hair splitting versions on the way (new trail bike incoming to slot in between epic Evo and stumpy Evo…) Hmm, but as I’m typing this I’m realizing I can see your perspective, wherein brands still have a lot of fragmentation and different bikes, but on the back end they are doing it with more...

Not a 1:1 analogy, but in terms of " virtual fragmentation with arbitrary distinctions between products," that was GM's bread and butter for 75+ years. Cadillac, Buick, Oldsmobile, Pontiac, and Chevrolet were almost identical vehicles with minor part and trim changes to make people feel like they were buying into an entirely different brand. So that method works: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_companion_make_program Now, on the one hand, you could say that's what every bike company does with trim levels (i.e. SLX, XT, XTR) but I think GM was doing something sneakier than that. The whole brand and product name changed. More like PON's...

That bike is owned and built by Loris Vergier's ex mechanic while at Trek called Pierre-Alexander Roche. Its got a longer rear shock and custom lower mount. Very tick build withshort cage 7 speed electronic mech