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senorbanana Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/15/2024 8:44am
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rhys1 Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/15/2024 8:43am Just been to meribel where specialized gravity were parked up with Finn riding a bike with a cover on again when i passed by mechanics covered it up. Looked like it had extra chainrings. No photos dead phine
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Mugen Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/15/2024 8:42am 100% Agree. Imagine walking into your local bike shop wanting to update your aging mondraker enduro bike. - Hello, I'm looking for a new enduro bike. - Ah yes, take a look at this Foxy. - No, sorry I must not have been clear, I want an enduro bike, like 160mm of travel, not a trail bike. -Foxy it is! Oh well, we call it the superfoxy now and it is 170/160mm. -Oh ok, sorry I didn't keep up with the name changes, but can I still get a Dune? -Of course sir, right this way, 170/165mm hard hitter, beautiful...
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Primoz Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/15/2024 8:42am Another hot take (in light of rumors the new Hightower will also move towards 160/160 mm travel): keep bike model names in the same category, do not move them around. One of the main offenders of this is Trek who moved the Fuel EX from what was a downcountry bike before downcountry existed (120/120) to almost enduro levels (150/140 with the Gen6). It can kind of be explained by people wanting to buy the same bike over the years when they progress, so start off with less travel and move to more travel and just throw them the same model...
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Eoin Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/15/2024 8:41am I would add that part of this is also that the major evolution in the last 2-3 years have been in ebikes, which this forum is relatively hostile towards. Generalization and hyperbole incoming: take a 2021 ebike and compare it to it's 2024/5 variant, it will look better, have better geo, better integration, more range, more power, lighter... Take a 2021 MTB and compare it to its 2024/2025 variant, it's the same bike but with headset routing, no rear derailleur routing and maybe some minor reworking of front and rear lengths or suspension curves barely anyone can feel.
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krabo83 Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/15/2024 8:41am
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All-MTN-MTB Added a reply to MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/14/2024 7:27pm My guess is they over bought and are trying to stay afloat. I would guess spring/early summer for new models at the earliest given that it’s almost fall already.
boozed Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/14/2024 7:25pm Norco is an Australian dairy that predates Norco Bicycles by almost 70 years. I like to slap stickers from milk cartons on my mates' bikes.
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ahleic09 Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/14/2024 7:13pm I think we may have to admit some possibilities about the group on this thread. Either: 1. We are all no longer well connected enough to score inside info. 2. The industry is in a slump and not developing product at the same speed as the previous few years Considering the lack of new product that came out of crank works I would suggest the latter but who knows. Until we get some new rumors we can either talk tech or make rumors up. Speaking of which I have one to start: Norco bikes have a relatively low resale value...
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Dave_Camp Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/14/2024 1:45pm Correct. I helped lay out the new tune names etc. We had the issue where a M tune on a Super Deluxe did not match the M tune on a Deluxe and that did not match the M tune on VIVID... Also- we had a shock with extra L1, L2, L3 and L4 tunes (in addition to normal L, M and H), they were not spaced evenly and no one could remember if L1 was lighter or heavier than a L2 tune. So we went to numbers that meant something on the dyno. We wanted OEMs to be able to...
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Uncle Cliffy Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/14/2024 6:49am Regarding “derailments;“ Every discussion in here is about tech and innovation. If we are discussing damper designs, rubber compounds, frame materials, etc. How are any of those discussions a derailment? Does everything HAVE to be a rumor? I haven’t seen anybody post a movie review, a story about a riding trip, or the current weather in Iowa. It’s all relevant. Funny thing about all those links people put up to discuss specific topics. Nobody engages with them. This thread is always active and always interesting. If rumors are sparse, what’s the harm?
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Primoz Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/14/2024 6:47am Hot take... Does the average rider want better suspension compared to what he or she has now? Does he or she know it could be better? If yes, are they willing to act upon that knowledge to actually change things? Or do they just want to ride their damn blue bike?
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SteveClimber Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/14/2024 6:45am The constant whinging that tech rumours is getting derailed is kind of annoying and derailing in itself. In my opinion its OK to discuss the tech rumour or current happenings for at least a page or two, and then they generally dissipate or move to other threads. If a legitimate large rumour or release happens it naturally takes over the thread anyway, they're discussing damping and leverage because there isn't a lot happening right now. Plus, Primoz, Teamrobot and Cascade make up some of the best and most knowledge members and are creating a valid discussion. For better or worse...
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anotherbikerguy Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
8/13/2024 7:05pm
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adamdigby Liked a reply to forum topic Poll: When do you replace tires?
8/13/2024 12:26pm When the sidewall support is very noticeably reduced, generally 15 runs. There is a big drop off around the 5th run and it slowly gets worse from there. By the 15th run it feels like rocks have no resistance compressing into the rim even at increased pressures. My knobs are generally passable at this time on Maxxgrip but the DH sidewalls just don’t offer support even at 32+ psi.
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jeff.brines Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
8/13/2024 12:20pm I don't disagree with this at all. Few more thoughts (I really should just make this a podcast or something lol) 1) Its really hard to decouple the emotion from the business and be pragmatic when shutting something down, especially when there is still a little money left in the bank. 2) The levers those in power pull on have huge lag times. IE, what the Fed does with respect to interest rates is akin to trying to turn left and then the car does so like 10 miles down the road. Slowly. We are finally feeling the real effects...
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All-MTN-MTB Added a reply to The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread
8/13/2024 10:38am I wouldn’t be surprised if we got more layoffs and companies shutting down in the bike industry in 2025 compared to 2024. It seems like a lot of companies across the bike food chain are having trouble getting rid of old stock and it doesn’t sound like new products are selling well either. It also seems like most of the...
Uncle Cliffy Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/13/2024 10:20am
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Nobble Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation
8/13/2024 10:19am Twin Tube designs reduce hysteresis as the shock transitions from compression to rebound. I don’t think they increase the range of adjustment. As far as I know, Cane Creek was the only one saying that you didn’t need frame specific tunes. I’m kinda skeptical of those CTS valves that Formula is doing. The pictures I’ve seen make them look tiny and I’m not sure how much shim tuning you could fit into one. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were just orifice dampers with different hole sizes. It’s kinda shocking how half assed a lot of MTB suspension is, especially...
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RadAxSmirch Liked a reply to forum topic 2025 Race Talk
8/13/2024 10:15am Probably because the UCI won't drop any more track disciplines to make room for it. Personally, I'm glad for it. DH currently has enough on it's plate without having to cosy up to the IOC.
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