2026 MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation - Longer and Slacker

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FullSendy wrote:

No, I think no valve stems is a new Trek innovation. Y'all just don't want to give them credit for it. 

Newmen's latest road wheels called, they'd like a word with you.

These Newmen wheels weigh less and are £5,480 cheaper than the Lightweight  Obermayer EVO | BikeRadar

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It seems not only 32" bikes are coming (leaked Trek models in this case) but also new 32" forks from Fox and RockShox will appear very...

It seems not only 32" bikes are coming (leaked Trek models in this case) but also new 32" forks from Fox and RockShox will appear very soon. (Please don't take the following pics too seriously, no confirmation, no source I've found. There's a chance these are fake ones.)

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Source: https://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=179309&start=60 

dolface wrote:

No valve stems...?

DylanJM wrote:

They're renders. Valve stems not usually the highest priority. 

Also shifter cable at the bb for wireless transmission. AI slop hopefully. 

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I hope Trek calls this the Super Duper Fly

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cmaac wrote:

I hope Trek calls this the Super Duper Fly

Superlative Fly

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I hope trek calls the hardtail you’ll have more fun on a stache.

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I'm currently on a Forekaster/Rekon combo for my short travel trail bike.I don't think I have the technique to brake well with the Rekon. For whatever...

I'm currently on a Forekaster/Rekon combo for my short travel trail bike.

I don't think I have the technique to brake well with the Rekon. For whatever reason, I'm skidding that tire A LOT more than the Aggressor I had there previously (in a DHF/Aggressor combo).

The Forekaster has been sick, though. I'm sure I've just jinxed it by saying it out loud but it's been really good on the hard pack and dusty and moondusty stuff around me. I've definitely pushed it too far and had some two-wheel slides but it still felt sorta controlled even when out of control.

I don't think anything in my riding has changed THAT much since I switched from DHF front to Forekaster front, but I've had WAY fewer shit-my-pants moments on the Forekaster than I did on the DHF. Both EXO and MaxxTerra.

Next tires will probably be Continental Magnotal front and either Dubni or Trino rear (in Trail/Grip Casing/Compound). There's been a lot of praise for the Dubnital but I don't think I'm the sort of rider that can hold their shit together on a tire like that. Rekon already feels a little too squirrely for my (lack of) technique and via the internet the Dubnital looks even lower-grip than the Rekon.

Anyone with experience that can compare Dubni, Trino, and Rekon?

I can compare the rekon, magnotal, and trinotal, but not the dubnotal as it's a bit too light for meJust as a heads up, while the...

I can compare the rekon, magnotal, and trinotal, but not the dubnotal as it's a bit too light for me

Just as a heads up, while the trinotal looks reminiscent of the forekaster, it has much shorter knobs. In terms of overall grip/rolling resistance, its forekaster > magnotal > rekon > trinotal. 

 

I really like the center tread on the magnotal, but the sideknobs don't quite reach forekaster levels of grip

Dude! Thanks for the write-up! That really gives me a lot to work with!

Which casing/compounds were you on in your testing?

I might just have to stay with Maxxis. I think I have to be no-less-grippy than Forekaster/Rekon.

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Dude! Thanks for the write-up! That really gives me a lot to work with!Which casing/compounds were you on in your testing?I might just have to stay...

Dude! Thanks for the write-up! That really gives me a lot to work with!

Which casing/compounds were you on in your testing?

I might just have to stay with Maxxis. I think I have to be no-less-grippy than Forekaster/Rekon.

Just do a Tallboy 6 and run forekaster F/R. I’ll be trying that combo this weekend. 

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TEAMROBOT wrote:

Horst Link Knucklebox

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Horst Box Knucklelink?

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Am I the only one that thinks using a bike diaper to hide pretty basic suspension is kinda lame. I guess it gets the people talking though. 

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Am I the only one that thinks using a bike diaper to hide pretty basic suspension is kinda lame. I guess it gets the people talking...

Am I the only one that thinks using a bike diaper to hide pretty basic suspension is kinda lame. I guess it gets the people talking though. 

They have nothing wrong with their bikes. Like remove the brand from the frame and Im intrigued. But you put ari on it and I just hate it. Astroturfing, diapers and basic bikes to look like theyre apart of the same boat as Canyon or Specialized, then they just have this design… they just infuriate me lol. 

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That’s a thick boy

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TEAMROBOT wrote:

Horst Link Knucklebox

Is the purpose behind the extra linkage to reduce side loading on the shock?  Would it add additional lateral stiffness to the rear end?  

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Is the purpose behind the extra linkage to reduce side loading on the shock?  Would it add additional lateral stiffness to the rear end?  

It's a single linkage. The purpose is to put more strain on the downtube and introduce extra welds that take the full shock loads so they'll fatigue over time. 

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TEAMROBOT wrote:

Horst Link Knucklebox

Is the purpose behind the extra linkage to reduce side loading on the shock?  Would it add additional lateral stiffness to the rear end?  

It is probably to reduce side loading and change the leverage curve. The pivot locations are in basically the same place. 

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AJW1 wrote:
especially that blue hardtail... super slack effective seat angle.I don't have the visual cues to work out what size those bikes are, but taller people (their...

especially that blue hardtail... super slack effective seat angle.

I don't have the visual cues to work out what size those bikes are, but taller people (their intended market) are going to struggle on that arent they?

Seat angles on 32” bikes will necessarily be slacker to preserve effective top tube lengths, unless you want to extend the wheelbase even more than you already are. That said, a 32” bike should feel better on climbs than a 29” bike for a given STA, as the rear axle on the 32” will be at least 32mm farther back. Folks associate slack STAs with looping out on climbs, but that’s a function of the seated position relative to the rear axle, not a function of the seated position relative to the bottom bracket.

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Eagerly anticipating Rulezman’s outburst when he sees the new hope stem. 

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AJW1 wrote:
especially that blue hardtail... super slack effective seat angle.I don't have the visual cues to work out what size those bikes are, but taller people (their...

especially that blue hardtail... super slack effective seat angle.

I don't have the visual cues to work out what size those bikes are, but taller people (their intended market) are going to struggle on that arent they?

codahale wrote:
Seat angles on 32” bikes will necessarily be slacker to preserve effective top tube lengths, unless you want to extend the wheelbase even more than you...

Seat angles on 32” bikes will necessarily be slacker to preserve effective top tube lengths, unless you want to extend the wheelbase even more than you already are. That said, a 32” bike should feel better on climbs than a 29” bike for a given STA, as the rear axle on the 32” will be at least 32mm farther back. Folks associate slack STAs with looping out on climbs, but that’s a function of the seated position relative to the rear axle, not a function of the seated position relative to the bottom bracket.

Slack seattubes are perfectly fine if you're riding an M or an XL. Slack seattubes SUUUUUUUCK if you're on an XL and have the seat ~800 mm above the BB. That's the only issue with them. If bikes were designed with that in mind, all would be fine.

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Imagine crushing your fingers between your headtube and fork crown in a blow-your-hands-off otb moment.

Imagine compromising the entire bike handling experience, rider fit and aesthetics for a little bit better rolling resistance. 

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Primoz wrote:
Slack seattubes are perfectly fine if you're riding an M or an XL. Slack seattubes SUUUUUUUCK if you're on an XL and have the seat ~800...

Slack seattubes are perfectly fine if you're riding an M or an XL. Slack seattubes SUUUUUUUCK if you're on an XL and have the seat ~800 mm above the BB. That's the only issue with them. If bikes were designed with that in mind, all would be fine.

I had an V1 Xl Canfield Yelli Screamy .424mm CS and actual seat angle of 70.4degrees. For its time it was super rad. But uphill it was effectively a unicycle. I could do no handed wheelies from a standstill on any incline.

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Looks like downtown SLC

Sure is, he's local to the both of us it seems, and works for Revel. 

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Primoz wrote:
Slack seattubes are perfectly fine if you're riding an M or an XL. Slack seattubes SUUUUUUUCK if you're on an XL and have the seat ~800...

Slack seattubes are perfectly fine if you're riding an M or an XL. Slack seattubes SUUUUUUUCK if you're on an XL and have the seat ~800 mm above the BB. That's the only issue with them. If bikes were designed with that in mind, all would be fine.

Yes, hello, I’m 193cm. My saddle is going to be ~800mm above my BB no matter what. Whether I have to drape my torso over the handlebars to avoid looping out on a climb depends on how far forward my ass is of the rear axle, which is literally chainstay length minus sin(90-STA)*saddle height.


Edit: Anyone who wants to argue about this with me, let’s take it to the endless trench wars of the existing chainstay and/or 32ers threads.

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