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I've heard about that. It's Enduro that's willing to give up its right to vote in order to disappear and be protected from the horrors happening to other racing genres.
Right?
looking at the bike with the coil shock i think that the vivid or float x2 wouldn‘t fit the shock tunnel. that‘s the real reason.
From the Levo Evo first ride write up on the other site there was something written at the end of the article that piqued my interest:
Maybe I'm reading too much into it but that could be taken as a hint...
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned already (I was out of the country for a couple days and haven't kept up super closely), but from the Loam Ranger Sea Otter update vid, the Spec rep said the Demo is being released on Tuesday. Probably old info, though? Ha ha
I take this more as neither one of these things are likely to happen. Shaving 20% of the Levo seems likely as does seeing a new enduro anytime soon.
I guess you could read it like that also. I think Specialized would be stupid to drop the Enduro name/product line completely though.
I wasn't suggesting dropping 20% off the current Levo bikes but rather there would be a completely seperate long travel lighter emtb with a diiferent drive system bearing the Enduro name. Maybe we need battery tech to progress a little further beofre we have proper 20kg full power enduro emtbs though (without skimpping on the builds/battery size).
Yes, we need a giant leap in batteries. Generally 10% gain a year, what you are asking for is solid state batteries to arrive.
Somehow emtbs are going in a direction a lot of us figured they’d go from the start.
It is more and more about the motor and the battery and less and less about the „bike“ part.
They might be fun, they might be fast. But to me it seems more and more like two different sports.
With those new torque numbers, it seems rather dubious (ridiculous) to talk of assistance. Maybe the rider assisting the motor, but not the other way around. Not even world class sprinters come close to outputting what a full power Avinox or Bosch is doing…
I sincerely hope that Ibis and some other rad brands continue to put much effort into furthering bikes and not just their emtbs.
Imagine an HD7 with the adjustability from the Oso.
Anyone know, if something NOT-e in term of HD6 or HD7 is to be expected?
Not saying you’re wrong, but this is their official answer 🤷
I also nearly said that, but then gave them the benefit of the doubt that a brand like Santa Cruz would have made clearance for (probably?) the most common enduro shock of the last decade on the Float X2
New Santa Cruz eBike comin?
German YouTube and Instagram guy named harzcore_tv is on something new.
Just a hunch, but I doubt Santa Cruz is letting YouTubers/Instagramers test out new stuff... especially with Specialized tires.
Willing to put money that's just a XO RSV Bullit with a wrap on it.
Given Bosch is a German company it might be a proto of the current crop of bikes from a few years ago
It's juat a new color for the Bullit
He mentioned in one of his videos, that he is testing a bike which will be presented in two weeks
Sir Chris Hoy would like a word. As would many many other world class sprinters. At least do a quick google search before you post.
I’m not world class by any means but I was able to hit 1244W during a sprint workout today. Granted, it was just for 2 seconds though so your point stands!
I will never understand the “it’s a whole separate sport” thing. I ride my ebike exactly like my analog bike just do more laps. Literally every other person I know with an ebike does the same and is not going out and climbing up downhill trails in boost. I see plenty of e-bikes on the lift at the bike park being ridden like analog bikes.
The innovation is happening in the motor and battery because the “bike part” of the tech has plateaued. Amflow proved this by making a decent riding bike out of thin air.
I saw a comment that it’s 12k cad with no brembos and full rockshox/ sram? Also saw a 4899 frame number but not sure if usd or cad. I heard in a video as well that the drive unit thingy was made by sram so I wonder what that means for other bikes/ sram. We’ll see Tuesday!
I think that's sort of the point, the only metric anyone cares about is the motor. The essence of riding an eBike is what the motor gives you. The rest of the "bike" part takes a back seat. And no one seems to care, even though the slippery slope foreboding was waved away as an irrational fear
I ride nx/gx, select+ suspension, and nothing electronic. My bike rips on descents. If I was in the market for an eeb I wouldn’t have any questions about the “bike” portion, as I have all of that figured out already. I don’t need better clickers, and def wouldnt worry about them on a eeb.
What sets eebs apart from each other and analog bikes is… the motor and battery. Heck, a lot of what makes brands different from each other is already implied in the eeb, so you don’t really have to explicitly sell that it’s a *santa Cruz eeb” or a “forbidden eeb.” Forbidden riders just want a forbidden eeb and from there they look at the motor and battery specs to see if that bike suits their wants and needs.
I should have written „for a whole ride“. Your post sounds a bit harsh imho. ;-)
And no doubt, there are people who ride their emtbs like regular bikes. And folks who can ride (again) because of emtbs. Cool!
And I don’t even judge, as long as people enjoy emtbing, I am happy. Regular bikers can also be fun OR problematic, no worries.
But to me it feels more and more like a different sport. It’s not biking it’s biking with a motor…
If I am on an emtb, I sure ride differently. And most bikers who were bikers before emtbs also often ride theirs differently, at least in my experience.
But whatever floats your boat, there are much worse occupations humans can do than riding bikes (electric or not) for fun.
I'm thinking an alu Bullit.
yeah, could be tight, think the x2 air can is bigger than the spring... pretty sure someone will test it soon. best pic i could find of the tunnel:
The use of analog to describe mountain bikes is ironic AF
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