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1 day ago
1llumA wrote:

Michelin still make the Wild Enduro rear that is pretty close to being a semi-slick in a tough casing.

I have one mounted up that I have yet to ride. Even though it's listed at 2.4, it looks tiny in comparison to the wild enduro ms (also listed as 2.4)

schwalbai
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1 day ago
andyjr77 wrote:
Bring back the OG Rock Razor Super Gravity but in a true 2.4 or 2.5. Or a Slaughter in Grid Gravity. I miss that era of...

Bring back the OG Rock Razor Super Gravity but in a true 2.4 or 2.5. Or a Slaughter in Grid Gravity. I miss that era of tough, fast rear Gravity tyres!

Rock Razor was definitely a fun tire.

I think the closest tire we now have is the Gravity ROMY. Way better braking as well. 
Listed weight of the 29x2.35 Gravity Rock Razor was 1030g, but i'm pretty sure it was a extra 200g more than that... Basically the same as 29x2.4 Gravity Pro Romy Diagonal.

1 day ago

@schwalbai How noticble is the change to the Gravity casing with all other things being equal? Same tread, compound, etc OLD vs NEW? Are we having to change PSI? thanks

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1 day ago Edited Date/Time 1 day ago
@schwalbai How noticble is the change to the Gravity casing with all other things being equal? Same tread, compound, etc OLD vs NEW? Are we having...

@schwalbai How noticble is the change to the Gravity casing with all other things being equal? Same tread, compound, etc OLD vs NEW? Are we having to change PSI? thanks

Haven't ridden the updated Gravity Pro yet, so i couldn't tell you from personal experience. 
I'm a 200lb enduro rider, and i generally find the Trail Pro to be sufficient.

From a technical standpoint; 
The previous Gravity Pro was a 4 layers of 67epi carcass under the tread, and 4 on the sidewall. Snakeskin on sidewall only, and apex supportive layer up the sidewall.
The updated Gravity Pro (where PRO is in blue) is now 6 layers under the tread, and 4 on the sidewall. Snakeskin is the same, and maybe Apex to? 
I can't find documentation about it, but it could even be taller? Bending back the bead/sidewall shows the rigidity and height of our apex layer, so i will do this when i have a old and new version at the same time.

TLDR: Due to the increased rigidity of the updated Gravity Pro casing, you will likely need less pressure than the previous Gravity Pro casing.

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14 hours ago

Awesome to see Dunlop in the game! But no good treads for soft conditions. Surprising from a moto brand whose tires all have major negative space and few knobs. 

13 hours ago Edited Date/Time 13 hours ago

Maxxis is certainly taking 32-inch tires seriously: 

PDF placeholder - 32in tires sales flyer.pdf

Updated MaxxTerra compound:

PDF placeholder - MaxxTerra sales flyer.pdf

New Aspen AT:

PDF placeholder - Aspen AT sales flyer.pdf
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PhoS
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12 hours ago Edited Date/Time 12 hours ago
@schwalbai How noticble is the change to the Gravity casing with all other things being equal? Same tread, compound, etc OLD vs NEW? Are we having...

@schwalbai How noticble is the change to the Gravity casing with all other things being equal? Same tread, compound, etc OLD vs NEW? Are we having to change PSI? thanks

schwalbai wrote:
Haven't ridden the updated Gravity Pro yet, so i couldn't tell you from personal experience. I'm a 200lb enduro rider, and i generally find the Trail Pro...

Haven't ridden the updated Gravity Pro yet, so i couldn't tell you from personal experience. 
I'm a 200lb enduro rider, and i generally find the Trail Pro to be sufficient.

From a technical standpoint; 
The previous Gravity Pro was a 4 layers of 67epi carcass under the tread, and 4 on the sidewall. Snakeskin on sidewall only, and apex supportive layer up the sidewall.
The updated Gravity Pro (where PRO is in blue) is now 6 layers under the tread, and 4 on the sidewall. Snakeskin is the same, and maybe Apex to? 
I can't find documentation about it, but it could even be taller? Bending back the bead/sidewall shows the rigidity and height of our apex layer, so i will do this when i have a old and new version at the same time.

TLDR: Due to the increased rigidity of the updated Gravity Pro casing, you will likely need less pressure than the previous Gravity Pro casing.

Got the new tires. These things feel burly af. The gravity pro casing is noticeably more firm in hand than the regular radial gravity casing. The new TC pattern looks great too. Looking forward to shredding these. 

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9 hours ago

Who we truly need to get into the MTB tire game is BF Goodrich so people can match their truck and bikes tire.

7 hours ago
1llumA wrote:

Who we truly need to get into the MTB tire game is BF Goodrich so people can match their truck and bikes tire.

Michelin owns BFG, so we're kinda there already.

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7 hours ago Edited Date/Time 7 hours ago

Maxxis dissector neo mullè: when they make a32 but not a 27.5. 🥲

After the maxxterra update might as well run a DHR2? Enduro said Dissector takes a 22% wattage hit on rolling resistance with the new compound. 

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7 hours ago

A more durable MaxxTerra sounds great. This 2.4 dhr2 dd casing only has 360 miles and most of that was in colder and wetter winter conditions. 
 

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1 hour ago
yzedf wrote:
A more durable MaxxTerra sounds great. This 2.4 dhr2 dd casing only has 360 miles and most of that was in colder and wetter winter conditions.  

A more durable MaxxTerra sounds great. This 2.4 dhr2 dd casing only has 360 miles and most of that was in colder and wetter winter conditions. 
 

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Man I wish my dhr looked that good even after 200 miles 

6 minutes ago Edited Date/Time 1 minute ago

The tread pattern on the Delrium Versatile looks like one of the better 2:2:2s out there. Wow. (Appears to be great land:sea ratio and knob size).  

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