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It depends on why you're so salty.
Bad nutrition? You're probably fine but your hydration will be lacking.
Bad attitude? You'll be pissing everyone off enough that they'll be dried out, too.
https://forbiddenbike.com/bikes/reya/
I know this is dangerously close to a chainstay derail, but I love that Forbidden made a 120mm bike with a 464mm chainstay in the XL size. That's real long, but if you don't like it you can buy literally any other XL lightweight 120mm bike. Curious how it rides. Could be sick.
[Editor's note: I THINK THIS COUNTS AS AN INNOVATION]
Just means no post-ride chips for you 😜
As an XL rider I really want to demo one of these to see if it's the holy grail that I hope it is! 🤞
Frame storage DOES add weight. A tube is a pretty amazing piece of a construction element. Lightand stiff in multiple directions, in torsion and bending, bending left and right AND up and down. The problem is the moment you cut into it, while a small hole won't really affect things that much, a long slit will though, you're breaking all of it. So to make a downtube with a big hole cut into it to be able to fit things inside of it, you need to add a lot of material around the rim to bring back the stiffness. A lot more than you cut out.
So yes, frame storage, by the nature of how it's done, does add weight. And it adds it before you start covering the hole and putting things in it. It adds weight to the frame just by cutting a hole in it and making it stiff enough to be able to ride it.
Reya looks really nice, but man 7200€ for the lowest spec 🙃 I'll stick to my plans of getting a V1 Spur!
It's actually 7300 eur. And yeah, the equipment is more fitting for maybe a 4k bike. Wild pricing. (full disclosure, I haven't bought a bike in the last three years, the last one was semi parts special, the previous one was bought in 2019, so I don't have a good feel for pricing, but even then it seems a bit... Excessive)
Unfortunately, I think the smaller size of a company like Forbidden doesn't help them as much in the OEM pricing game...
Yes... but only if you ride a Large or XL seem cool, the medium is quite an average bike tbh. The small is short chainstay dreamers bike.
It’s almost as if the chainstays are proportional…
chefs kiss of a reply
Anyways, I am kind of bummed the reya comes with a 34sl instead of a 36sl on the fox build to be honest. But outside of that it looks killer. Though I guess I am also shocked they came out with a fox build after dropping that as a build option for the last 3-4 years.
I wish they would get supernoughts back in stock....
My only gripe with that reya, I have to say, are the colors. The gray is kinda boring and the "golden brown" is a little underwhelming aswell. I hoped for somethin more poppy...like pink or blue or some green... maybe the brown goes more to yellow/orange!? I feels like it is color-coded for kashima.
And the pricetag is rediculous. Even for a butique brand like forbidden. Transmission 90, Select+ suspension and own-/off-brand stuff for 7,4k€ is insane. You don't even get a motor with it...
Only sensible thing is frameset I think.
Yes I get that. I own a Dreadnought but with 456mm RC, size medium. I still think longer rear centers work for short people as well. I was expecting their shorter travel bike to still have a bit longer RC. Their MO has been longer stays, higher stacks, moderate reach numbers for all bikes sizes. I am just stating that their medium is pretty average size for a frame size in this category so it doesn't stand out all that much from other similar bikes. If I were an L or XL I think its a great bike.
Kinda funny, in a size medium it’s just really average geometry. Basically the exact same as the top fuel, and actually with the top fuel m/l sizing you actually get a longer chainstay at just a slightly longer reach.
How do they keep rear travel the same across sizes if the rear center increases significantly (10% from S to XL)?
Their rocker is carbon, I can’t imagine they made a mold for each size?
In line with the downtube storage talk, is there someone making flask/bottle for this purpose? Or do folks just use a running flask like the Hydraflask and hope the top fits in the downtube opening? I would genuinely be interested in a bike-specific version that I could throw in there for longer rides.
It’s a different seat stay.
Specialized had one for a while dunno if it’s still available
A few points that I consider: if you follow the fc/rc convos most riders who are saying they need a longer CS are taller riders. The debate has mostly ended up with a desire for proportional stays, not necessarily longer stays overall. I think that mediums tend to ride pretty darn well from what I hear, and I think the ratio will probably attest to that…
From a business perspective i kinda have to applaud them. They seem to understand where they have an opportunity not only overall but even down to a size-specific market share opportunity. Smaller sized frames offer a four bar DC option at a time when pretty much every other brand has gone flex stay. And the longer rear centers on the large and XL bikes mean that they can actually compete with some other brands based solely on geo.
I’m sure it’s not just about business, forbidden seems incredibly keen on producing the bikes that real riders want to ride hard, and this does not seem like a miss from them (well, except for the price.)
New 40 has dropped
https://ridefox.com/pages/fox-40
38 next week.
This so much. Like many others (SC, especially), you usually get one fun color and one safe color. Here it is more blah on both ends.
I will say, weight on s2 is pretty impressive for Forbidden. Claimed 2.27Kg/5lbs on S2, if Spur is 2.54Kg/5.5lbs on MD.
Now to see if they do get any S4 frames in.
that looks like the current 40?
No, look at the bridge with the topology optimized arch.
Finally a damper that "sits higher in the travel", never heard of that before.
Probably should end up at full lockout with how many times the iterations sat higher in the travel than the ones before
This is what I use. I don’t keep it filled, I keep it collapsed then fill it from a stream/river then transfer the filtered water into my bottle then collapse it back down and stash it away. I’ve done 5-6 hour rides with no pack, just refill my water bottle 2-3 times over the ride. Works great for me.
I can't tell if the damper is the same as last years gripx2 or a different version of the current gripx2. Very confusing.
Glidecore airspring is a nice though. Been a fan of it on my 36.
Going with that it's the same. X2 was such an improvement over Grip2, I didn't really notice any change when I swapped in glidecore on my 36.
New TR-11 leaks again via lost co.
Are we sure that's not a bottlerocket?
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