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2/20/2026 1:29am Edited Date/Time 2/20/2026 1:30am

It's arguably needed a lot more with 12 speed drivetrains than it was with 9 speed... Hanger alignment and accuracy is much more important now than it was back then. And no, it's not the steps between gears that's the reason for it, it's the offset pulley that affects things if the hanger (and derailleur) is twisted around the vertical axis.

It's a question how much it helps with preventing twisting around the vertical axis though. 

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Looks like Madrone's Stiffener for the Jab which works pretty well for me.

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I refused to try the new radials on my druid. Hell, the 2.4 eliminator and whatever rocks, dirt, and sticks already did a number on the inside of my stays. Peeled off the ridewrap on both, which also made an annoying ticking until I could force it off with a stick mid-ride. 

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Heard about an epic Evo “trail bike”, possibly 4 bar, new platform. 

I did notice that The current Epic 8s are on sale, with some colors and sizes limited.  Is this ahead of new colors and spec, or a new frame coming out later this year? Seems a little short for the Epic8 '24 redesign. But many people have felt that the current EpicEvo was not exactly on the mark.  

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2/20/2026 10:04am Edited Date/Time 2/20/2026 10:05am

Heard about an epic Evo “trail bike”, possibly 4 bar, new platform. 

ejj wrote:
I did notice that The current Epic 8s are on sale, with some colors and sizes limited.  Is this ahead of new colors and spec, or...

I did notice that The current Epic 8s are on sale, with some colors and sizes limited.  Is this ahead of new colors and spec, or a new frame coming out later this year? Seems a little short for the Epic8 '24 redesign. But many people have felt that the current EpicEvo was not exactly on the mark.  

if we go back and look at the relationship between the stumpy and stumpy evo we can see specialized giving riders a radically different frame with the leap to the Evo badge. The current epic evo is different in build only, right? So it tracks to me that there is an opportunity for an epic evo that really earns its Evo designator. 

I suppose they could do a Stumpy R or some other lightweight version of that bike (see: new ripley) but the Epic Evo name is more valuable in that space. 

My source alluded to the idea that people at Speci felt that there were always compromises with the flex stay platform. I was thrown off by all the talk of a new trail bike but i could see the Epic Evo fitting into this category...

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My Specialized contact says no new Epic any time soon. And why would they. It's widely considered to be the benchmark of its class.

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Heard about an epic Evo “trail bike”, possibly 4 bar, new platform. 

ejj wrote:
I did notice that The current Epic 8s are on sale, with some colors and sizes limited.  Is this ahead of new colors and spec, or...

I did notice that The current Epic 8s are on sale, with some colors and sizes limited.  Is this ahead of new colors and spec, or a new frame coming out later this year? Seems a little short for the Epic8 '24 redesign. But many people have felt that the current EpicEvo was not exactly on the mark.  

if we go back and look at the relationship between the stumpy and stumpy evo we can see specialized giving riders a radically different frame with...

if we go back and look at the relationship between the stumpy and stumpy evo we can see specialized giving riders a radically different frame with the leap to the Evo badge. The current epic evo is different in build only, right? So it tracks to me that there is an opportunity for an epic evo that really earns its Evo designator. 

I suppose they could do a Stumpy R or some other lightweight version of that bike (see: new ripley) but the Epic Evo name is more valuable in that space. 

My source alluded to the idea that people at Speci felt that there were always compromises with the flex stay platform. I was thrown off by all the talk of a new trail bike but i could see the Epic Evo fitting into this category...

Return of the Camber?

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2/20/2026 11:43am Edited Date/Time 2/20/2026 12:02pm
AgrAde wrote:
Mountain bikers HATE that four bar doesn't mean what they think it means.horst? 4 bar.DW? 4 bar.VPP? 4 bar.Maestro? 4 bar.linkage driven single pivot? 4 bar.Delta...

Mountain bikers HATE that four bar doesn't mean what they think it means.

horst? 4 bar.
DW? 4 bar.
VPP? 4 bar.
Maestro? 4 bar.
linkage driven single pivot? 4 bar.
Delta? 4 bar.
First gen Yeti Switch? 4 bar.

It goes on. It's a pointlessly generic term to use and if you use it then nobody is really sure exactly what you mean. It's like calling your tire a wheel. "but mountain bikers use the term differently!"... Differently than what it means? Cool...

Man I've got some terrible news for you about mountain bikers and the word "loam:"

The Soil Texture Triangle

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2/20/2026 11:50am Edited Date/Time 2/20/2026 12:09pm
When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to...

When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to have to go and release it some time this year? Most of the new XTR testing seemed to happen under wraps but more and more of the top level Shimano riders seem to be running those new brake calipers, compared to pretty much just Jackson towards the start of last season.

Hoping the brake really delivers, would be nice to get massive power with Shimano's lever feel without having to do some sort of frankenbrake ala Shigura / Shaven etc.

We're 14 years in already. What makes you think the new Saint is going to be released?

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When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to...

When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to have to go and release it some time this year? Most of the new XTR testing seemed to happen under wraps but more and more of the top level Shimano riders seem to be running those new brake calipers, compared to pretty much just Jackson towards the start of last season.

Hoping the brake really delivers, would be nice to get massive power with Shimano's lever feel without having to do some sort of frankenbrake ala Shigura / Shaven etc.

TEAMROBOT wrote:

We're 14 years in already. What makes you think the new Saint is going to be released?

Jackson's brakes? 

(I'm not actually convinced the rest of the groupset needs an update, but I think there is fairly collective agreement that the updated Shimano brakes are not competitive with the best on the market right now)

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When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to...

When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to have to go and release it some time this year? Most of the new XTR testing seemed to happen under wraps but more and more of the top level Shimano riders seem to be running those new brake calipers, compared to pretty much just Jackson towards the start of last season.

Hoping the brake really delivers, would be nice to get massive power with Shimano's lever feel without having to do some sort of frankenbrake ala Shigura / Shaven etc.

TEAMROBOT wrote:

We're 14 years in already. What makes you think the new Saint is going to be released?

There's a lot of Shimano sponsored riders who are reducing their drivetrains down to 7 speed from 10, it would be smart of Shimano to make a dedicated 7 speed Saint for that reason, 7 speed linkglide saint would be rad

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2/20/2026 1:35pm
When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to...

When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to have to go and release it some time this year? Most of the new XTR testing seemed to happen under wraps but more and more of the top level Shimano riders seem to be running those new brake calipers, compared to pretty much just Jackson towards the start of last season.

Hoping the brake really delivers, would be nice to get massive power with Shimano's lever feel without having to do some sort of frankenbrake ala Shigura / Shaven etc.

You're going to get Maven power with a lever that feels more like Shimano in 3 days. Could be the answer to your prayers. 

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When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to...

When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to have to go and release it some time this year? Most of the new XTR testing seemed to happen under wraps but more and more of the top level Shimano riders seem to be running those new brake calipers, compared to pretty much just Jackson towards the start of last season.

Hoping the brake really delivers, would be nice to get massive power with Shimano's lever feel without having to do some sort of frankenbrake ala Shigura / Shaven etc.

You're going to get Maven power with a lever that feels more like Shimano in 3 days. Could be the answer to your prayers. 

Woooo! I've always wanted Maven power with the lever ambiguity of Shimano's wandering bite point! Count me in!

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2/20/2026 1:51pm Edited Date/Time 2/20/2026 10:14pm
When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to...

When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to have to go and release it some time this year? Most of the new XTR testing seemed to happen under wraps but more and more of the top level Shimano riders seem to be running those new brake calipers, compared to pretty much just Jackson towards the start of last season.

Hoping the brake really delivers, would be nice to get massive power with Shimano's lever feel without having to do some sort of frankenbrake ala Shigura / Shaven etc.

You're going to get Maven power with a lever that feels more like Shimano in 3 days. Could be the answer to your prayers. 

DServy wrote:

Woooo! I've always wanted Maven power with the lever ambiguity of Shimano's wandering bite point! Count me in!

Wandering bite point + wandering pistons = a broken clock is right twice a day Tongue

Jokes aside, I have had no problems with my Mavens, and would be really happy to see a Shimano equivalent for those that prefer Shimano.

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2/20/2026 1:55pm
DServy wrote:

Woooo! I've always wanted Maven power with the lever ambiguity of Shimano's wandering bite point! Count me in!

Normal Mavens, but with the option to get the linear swing-link in the Base model, for all the models. The Base is more on/off like Shimano. But without the wandering bite point (if you bleed well and massage pistons) 

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Normal Mavens, but with the option to get the linear swing-link in the Base model, for all the models. The Base is more on/off like Shimano...

Normal Mavens, but with the option to get the linear swing-link in the Base model, for all the models. The Base is more on/off like Shimano. But without the wandering bite point (if you bleed well and massage pistons) 

Respectfully, I disagree with your characterization of the Base brake's lever feel. I don't think there has ever been a brake in the history of the universe with a more on/off lever feel than the Maven Ultimate, and the thing I like most about the Base is that it keeps 90% of the power but makes the lever feel mushier in a good way. Lots more room to fine tune brake power using your finger on the Base, whereas the window to do that with the Ultimate feels like it occurs in roughly 0.04mm of lever movement.

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TEAMROBOT wrote:
Man I've got some terrible news for you about mountain bikers and the word "loam:"

Man I've got some terrible news for you about mountain bikers and the word "loam:"

The Soil Texture Triangle

Don't worry, I used to date a geologist.

Our soil here is actual loam, not mtber loam Sad

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TEAMROBOT wrote:
Respectfully, I disagree with your characterization of the Base brake's lever feel. I don't think there has ever been a brake in the history of the...

Respectfully, I disagree with your characterization of the Base brake's lever feel. I don't think there has ever been a brake in the history of the universe with a more on/off lever feel than the Maven Ultimate, and the thing I like most about the Base is that it keeps 90% of the power but makes the lever feel mushier in a good way. Lots more room to fine tune brake power using your finger on the Base, whereas the window to do that with the Ultimate feels like it occurs in roughly 0.04mm of lever movement.

Organic or incorrect rotor size for application I'd agree but I think the sintered has a large degree of modulation. 

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ejj wrote:
I did notice that The current Epic 8s are on sale, with some colors and sizes limited.  Is this ahead of new colors and spec, or...

I did notice that The current Epic 8s are on sale, with some colors and sizes limited.  Is this ahead of new colors and spec, or a new frame coming out later this year? Seems a little short for the Epic8 '24 redesign. But many people have felt that the current EpicEvo was not exactly on the mark.  

if we go back and look at the relationship between the stumpy and stumpy evo we can see specialized giving riders a radically different frame with...

if we go back and look at the relationship between the stumpy and stumpy evo we can see specialized giving riders a radically different frame with the leap to the Evo badge. The current epic evo is different in build only, right? So it tracks to me that there is an opportunity for an epic evo that really earns its Evo designator. 

I suppose they could do a Stumpy R or some other lightweight version of that bike (see: new ripley) but the Epic Evo name is more valuable in that space. 

My source alluded to the idea that people at Speci felt that there were always compromises with the flex stay platform. I was thrown off by all the talk of a new trail bike but i could see the Epic Evo fitting into this category...

Return of the Camber?

No I don’t think so. Brought it up but they reminded me of the helmet…

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2/20/2026 5:29pm
I refused to try the new radials on my druid. Hell, the 2.4 eliminator and whatever rocks, dirt, and sticks already did a number on the...

I refused to try the new radials on my druid. Hell, the 2.4 eliminator and whatever rocks, dirt, and sticks already did a number on the inside of my stays. Peeled off the ridewrap on both, which also made an annoying ticking until I could force it off with a stick mid-ride. 

Damn this is a bummer. Was this on a 29 or mx? i just ordered an mx Druid and ive pretty strictly been running 2.5 Albert radials front and rear since they came out. 

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TEAMROBOT wrote:
Respectfully, I disagree with your characterization of the Base brake's lever feel. I don't think there has ever been a brake in the history of the...

Respectfully, I disagree with your characterization of the Base brake's lever feel. I don't think there has ever been a brake in the history of the universe with a more on/off lever feel than the Maven Ultimate, and the thing I like most about the Base is that it keeps 90% of the power but makes the lever feel mushier in a good way. Lots more room to fine tune brake power using your finger on the Base, whereas the window to do that with the Ultimate feels like it occurs in roughly 0.04mm of lever movement.

Organic or incorrect rotor size for application I'd agree but I think the sintered has a large degree of modulation. 

I think the opposite, maven ultimates with metal are so aggressive it’s almost bad when grip is lacking

Organics have so much more modulation 

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I refused to try the new radials on my druid. Hell, the 2.4 eliminator and whatever rocks, dirt, and sticks already did a number on the...

I refused to try the new radials on my druid. Hell, the 2.4 eliminator and whatever rocks, dirt, and sticks already did a number on the inside of my stays. Peeled off the ridewrap on both, which also made an annoying ticking until I could force it off with a stick mid-ride. 

Damn this is a bummer. Was this on a 29 or mx? i just ordered an mx Druid and ive pretty strictly been running 2.5 Albert...

Damn this is a bummer. Was this on a 29 or mx? i just ordered an mx Druid and ive pretty strictly been running 2.5 Albert radials front and rear since they came out. 

Guessing 29, with flexy wheels? I have had an albert on my druidv2 29 for the better part of a season , it'll buzz once in a while but I doubled the wrap where it rubbed and it's been fine. 

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2/20/2026 5:52pm Edited Date/Time 2/20/2026 5:53pm
I refused to try the new radials on my druid. Hell, the 2.4 eliminator and whatever rocks, dirt, and sticks already did a number on the...

I refused to try the new radials on my druid. Hell, the 2.4 eliminator and whatever rocks, dirt, and sticks already did a number on the inside of my stays. Peeled off the ridewrap on both, which also made an annoying ticking until I could force it off with a stick mid-ride. 

Damn this is a bummer. Was this on a 29 or mx? i just ordered an mx Druid and ive pretty strictly been running 2.5 Albert...

Damn this is a bummer. Was this on a 29 or mx? i just ordered an mx Druid and ive pretty strictly been running 2.5 Albert radials front and rear since they came out. 

Mine was a full 29, since I wanted that for the trial bike. I have friends with them running the radials on the 29 and haven't really complained. I have them on my DH bike, but didn't feel like spending more for something that looked even too close for comfort. Probably would have caused the same amount of damage in the end. 

Triad to hope pro 5s, so not that flexy. And it isn't side to side flex. It is on the actual bridges that are getting scuffed up from shit getting in the tread then scraping through the very tight space. 

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When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to...

When do we think the new Saint will actually be released? With SRAM's DH Transmission being ~ 5 days away now, surely Shimano are going to have to go and release it some time this year? Most of the new XTR testing seemed to happen under wraps but more and more of the top level Shimano riders seem to be running those new brake calipers, compared to pretty much just Jackson towards the start of last season.

Hoping the brake really delivers, would be nice to get massive power with Shimano's lever feel without having to do some sort of frankenbrake ala Shigura / Shaven etc.

TEAMROBOT wrote:

We're 14 years in already. What makes you think the new Saint is going to be released?

I'm as excited for new saint as anyone, but lately this is how I feel waiting for them at this point:

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if we go back and look at the relationship between the stumpy and stumpy evo we can see specialized giving riders a radically different frame with...

if we go back and look at the relationship between the stumpy and stumpy evo we can see specialized giving riders a radically different frame with the leap to the Evo badge. The current epic evo is different in build only, right? So it tracks to me that there is an opportunity for an epic evo that really earns its Evo designator. 

I suppose they could do a Stumpy R or some other lightweight version of that bike (see: new ripley) but the Epic Evo name is more valuable in that space. 

My source alluded to the idea that people at Speci felt that there were always compromises with the flex stay platform. I was thrown off by all the talk of a new trail bike but i could see the Epic Evo fitting into this category...

Return of the Camber?

No I don’t think so. Brought it up but they reminded me of the helmet…

I have a helmet for them...

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I refused to try the new radials on my druid. Hell, the 2.4 eliminator and whatever rocks, dirt, and sticks already did a number on the...

I refused to try the new radials on my druid. Hell, the 2.4 eliminator and whatever rocks, dirt, and sticks already did a number on the inside of my stays. Peeled off the ridewrap on both, which also made an annoying ticking until I could force it off with a stick mid-ride. 

Damn this is a bummer. Was this on a 29 or mx? i just ordered an mx Druid and ive pretty strictly been running 2.5 Albert...

Damn this is a bummer. Was this on a 29 or mx? i just ordered an mx Druid and ive pretty strictly been running 2.5 Albert radials front and rear since they came out. 

PhoS wrote:
Guessing 29, with flexy wheels? I have had an albert on my druidv2 29 for the better part of a season , it'll buzz once in...

Guessing 29, with flexy wheels? I have had an albert on my druidv2 29 for the better part of a season , it'll buzz once in a while but I doubled the wrap where it rubbed and it's been fine. 

Berd spoked Reserve 29" wheels.

Fortunately (?) I cracked my seatstay and had to replace it anyway.

chainstay.rub

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The lack clearance was a bit of a surprise. I had no rub with TC and KrypRe which I prefer over the Albert anyway, it' an oddly tall tire. 

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PhoS wrote:
The lack clearance was a bit of a surprise. I had no rub with TC and KrypRe which I prefer over the Albert anyway, it' an...

The lack clearance was a bit of a surprise. I had no rub with TC and KrypRe which I prefer over the Albert anyway, it' an oddly tall tire. 

I loved the Schwalbe radials, they were great.
Alternating between Forekaster and DHRII 2.4s now.  

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