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10/1/2025 2:07pm
Dave_Camp wrote:
The holes let oil up to the upper bushing… those are already on current 38 boxxer.Someone patented the channel around the bushings. I’m sure fatigue is been...

The holes let oil up to the upper bushing… those are already on current 38 boxxer.


Someone patented the channel around the bushings. 

I’m sure fatigue is been calculated and tested. RS didn’t mess around with fatigue.

Also curious how they’re making the dimples. 

Yeah they must help to retain lubricant on the surface- might work pretty well? better than modifying the bushing IMO

not a fan of the grooves around the bushing anyway - pretty convinced they do more to help the oil drain around the bushing instead of allowing more on to the bushing!

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10/1/2025 2:42pm Edited Date/Time 10/1/2025 8:16pm
From the pits in Lake Placid today (Pit Bits vid coming in a few hours). What looks like dimples on the stanchion of a Boxxer, I'd...

From the pits in Lake Placid today (Pit Bits vid coming in a few hours). What looks like dimples on the stanchion of a Boxxer, I'd assume to reduce friction. Forum expert opinion thoughts?

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These are race specific right?  For forks that get serviced once a week?

Edit: don't mind me, closer inspection indicates the dimples don't extend beyond the dust seal

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10/1/2025 3:10pm

That’s a lot of work for race only.

I’d guess it’s coming on high end production stuff next time it get refreshed 


 

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10/1/2025 4:23pm
sspomer wrote:
pit bits video from lake placid world cup

pit bits video from lake placid world cup

For aerodynamics. Like a golf ball. 

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10/1/2025 5:32pm
sspomer wrote:
pit bits video from lake placid world cup

pit bits video from lake placid world cup

Jotegr wrote:

For aerodynamics. Like a golf ball. 

Pretty sure if that part of the stanchion is out in the open air you've got bigger problems than aerodynamics...

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10/1/2025 11:25pm

Is this a Tacky Chan Radial prototype? I remember reading here a while ago that Schwalbe was not planning to release Tacky Chan in the radial version, but Gravity casing and the graphics are strong hints for it being indeed a radial version.

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10/1/2025 11:37pm
Is this a Tacky Chan Radial prototype? I remember reading here a while ago that Schwalbe was not planning to release Tacky Chan in the radial...

Is this a Tacky Chan Radial prototype? I remember reading here a while ago that Schwalbe was not planning to release Tacky Chan in the radial version, but Gravity casing and the graphics are strong hints for it being indeed a radial version.

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these have been around for a while, but yes when i messaged Schwalbe about it they told me it's not in the works, i still hope for it tho

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10/2/2025 5:33am

2026 Giant Reign Advanced

560WH / 800W peak power / 48V system / Yamaha 100NM motor / built in TPMS

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10/2/2025 6:17am Edited Date/Time 10/2/2025 6:19am
Rick26 wrote:
2026 Giant Reign Advanced560WH / 800W peak power / 48V system / Yamaha 100NM motor / built in TPMS

2026 Giant Reign Advanced

560WH / 800W peak power / 48V system / Yamaha 100NM motor / built in TPMS

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That a BIG downtube für just 560 Wh...how are you supposed to take this serious? Even Bosch could have jammed 800+ Wh in that thing...

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10/2/2025 7:14am
Any0ng wrote:

That a BIG downtube für just 560 Wh...how are you supposed to take this serious? Even Bosch could have jammed 800+ Wh in that thing...

Some companies definitely need to look at what DJi is doing with the Amflow battery... Definitely appears to be the smallest 800Wh battery at the moment..

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10/2/2025 7:17am

"Designed to push the limits of what's possible on the roughest terrain..."

Spec'd with EXO casings 🙃

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Gotta keep that spec sheet weight down. 😆

Multi-idler bro pivot with a pinion drag box. It could weigh 12 pounds and it would still pedal like dog dick.

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10/2/2025 7:42am
Any0ng wrote:

That a BIG downtube für just 560 Wh...how are you supposed to take this serious? Even Bosch could have jammed 800+ Wh in that thing...

Some companies definitely need to look at what DJi is doing with the Amflow battery... Definitely appears to be the smallest 800Wh battery at the moment..

Did the maths on all the current crop of e bike batteries. They're all within ~10% energy density wise. Everyone is using the same format of cells so I suspect the DJI battery is just longer and thinner. That gives it's own challenges from a weight on bike point of view.

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10/2/2025 7:48am
Is this a Tacky Chan Radial prototype? I remember reading here a while ago that Schwalbe was not planning to release Tacky Chan in the radial...

Is this a Tacky Chan Radial prototype? I remember reading here a while ago that Schwalbe was not planning to release Tacky Chan in the radial version, but Gravity casing and the graphics are strong hints for it being indeed a radial version.

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Evil96 wrote:
these have been around for a while, but yes when i messaged Schwalbe about it they told me it's not in the works, i still hope...

these have been around for a while, but yes when i messaged Schwalbe about it they told me it's not in the works, i still hope for it tho

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10/2/2025 8:05am

Transition is re-releasing a new Bottlerocket next Thursday, October 9th! They haven't sent over full details yet, but provided some history of the Rocket images. I'm pretty hyped they're bringing this bike back. #freerideissonotdead 

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10/2/2025 8:16am
Transition is re-releasing a new Bottlerocket next Thursday, October 9th! They haven't sent over full details yet, but provided some history of the Rocket images. I'm...

Transition is re-releasing a new Bottlerocket next Thursday, October 9th! They haven't sent over full details yet, but provided some history of the Rocket images. I'm pretty hyped they're bringing this bike back. #freerideissonotdead 

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Looks like modular dropout and lower shock mount?

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10/2/2025 8:22am

I’m curious to see how this fits into the lineup with the Patrol.

It seems like they have a lot of overlapping bikes in the 160-180mm space.

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10/2/2025 8:35am
Nobble wrote:

I’m curious to see how this fits into the lineup with the Patrol.

It seems like they have a lot of overlapping bikes in the 160-180mm space.

trying to do my best enhance.gif.   the wheels look to be the same size. its positioned as a freeride bike, so its possible they went full 27.5. 

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10/2/2025 8:40am
Transition is re-releasing a new Bottlerocket next Thursday, October 9th! They haven't sent over full details yet, but provided some history of the Rocket images. I'm...

Transition is re-releasing a new Bottlerocket next Thursday, October 9th! They haven't sent over full details yet, but provided some history of the Rocket images. I'm pretty hyped they're bringing this bike back. #freerideissonotdead 

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They better bring back the PBR edition!

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10/2/2025 8:40am
Nobble wrote:

I’m curious to see how this fits into the lineup with the Patrol.

It seems like they have a lot of overlapping bikes in the 160-180mm space.

jonkranked wrote:
trying to do my best enhance.gif.   the wheels look to be the same size. its positioned as a freeride bike, so its possible they went...

trying to do my best enhance.gif.   the wheels look to be the same size. its positioned as a freeride bike, so its possible they went full 27.5. 

I would guess that along with some geometry tweaks to be a little more playful..

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10/2/2025 8:42am Edited Date/Time 10/2/2025 8:45am

Isn't the Bottle Rocket a shorter travel bike, like 120mm? Looks like it is metal, so that's good.

I have a steel Trail or Park 26" circa 2005 or so, still a good pump track bike/dirt jumper.

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10/2/2025 8:45am
Isn't the Bottle Rocket a shorter travel bike, like 120mm? Looks like it is metal, so that's good.I have a steel Trail or Park 26" circa...

Isn't the Bottle Rocket a shorter travel bike, like 120mm? Looks like it is metal, so that's good.

I have a steel Trail or Park 26" circa 2005 or so, still a good pump track bike/dirt jumper.

it was, but they've also got this one pictured as running a dual crown fork, so I'm assuming it'll be in the 160-180mm range.  might be similar to say, the norco shore. 

10/2/2025 8:46am
Nobble wrote:

I’m curious to see how this fits into the lineup with the Patrol.

It seems like they have a lot of overlapping bikes in the 160-180mm space.

jonkranked wrote:
trying to do my best enhance.gif.   the wheels look to be the same size. its positioned as a freeride bike, so its possible they went...

trying to do my best enhance.gif.   the wheels look to be the same size. its positioned as a freeride bike, so its possible they went full 27.5. 

I would guess that along with some geometry tweaks to be a little more playful..

Pretty sure it's dual 27.5? At least that's what I've heard. Definitely more freeride oriented than trail/enduro/race oriented. 

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10/2/2025 8:46am Edited Date/Time 10/2/2025 8:49am
Nobble wrote:

I’m curious to see how this fits into the lineup with the Patrol.

It seems like they have a lot of overlapping bikes in the 160-180mm space.

jonkranked wrote:
trying to do my best enhance.gif.   the wheels look to be the same size. its positioned as a freeride bike, so its possible they went...

trying to do my best enhance.gif.   the wheels look to be the same size. its positioned as a freeride bike, so its possible they went full 27.5. 

I agree, it looks like it’s full 27.5.


It seems like an odd business decision though, other brands seem to be trying to cut down on number of models. Currently Transition has the Sentinel (can be long shocked to 160), the Patrol (160 or 170 depending on shock), and the Spire (160 or 170 depending on shock). Adding a 4th bike in the 160-180mm range is an odd choice.


The Patrol is great in a Dual Crown Freeride setup. Maybe they’re gonna combine the Patrol and the Spire into one bike. They’re both due for update, and that would cut down the overlap.

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10/2/2025 9:15am

Love that Forbiddens latest email pays true homage to the Crab link:
"Still wondering what the f**** we’re on about with all the crab stuff?


A theory exists called Carcinisation wherein all non-crab crustaceans evolve a crab-like body plan. A very clever Vital MTB user noticed how many mountain bikes brands had evolved towards the same form and linkage lay out. He declared that this new evolution of bike layouts be named the crab link. And many pages of crab jokes followed.  

It’s an obscure and very inside joke. But hey, now you’re in on it too."

Trend setters we are.

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10/2/2025 9:24am

Troy has the thing on his Boxxer but Luca doesn’t 

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10/2/2025 9:53am
Isn't the Bottle Rocket a shorter travel bike, like 120mm? Looks like it is metal, so that's good.I have a steel Trail or Park 26" circa...

Isn't the Bottle Rocket a shorter travel bike, like 120mm? Looks like it is metal, so that's good.

I have a steel Trail or Park 26" circa 2005 or so, still a good pump track bike/dirt jumper.

Original bottlerocket was 140mm in the rear. Had a fun few minutes of digging deep into my youtube to find a video of me riding my bottle rocket around 2007 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h_nnyfWeSw

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10/2/2025 10:32am

Bottle Rocket in name only.

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10/2/2025 10:42am

So they updated the scout and named it the bottle rocket?

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