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Primoz
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8/27/2025 3:40am Edited Date/Time 8/27/2025 3:41am

Lewis doing Lewis things.

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8/27/2025 4:30am
Primoz wrote:

Lewis doing Lewis things.

Blatant IP theft, but i Have to admit i like the look of these pedals with the x through the centre more than the outlier Ones.

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8/27/2025 5:12am
Primoz wrote:

Lewis doing Lewis things.

Blatant IP theft, but i Have to admit i like the look of these pedals with the x through the centre more than the outlier Ones.

Why? The hole is their second best feature, it makes them super comfortable and grippy.

Also, fuck lewis.

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8/27/2025 5:13am
Primoz wrote:

Lewis doing Lewis things.

The only positive thing to say ist they have good taste in the products they copy. 

But crazy shameless

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8/27/2025 5:22am Edited Date/Time 8/27/2025 5:24am
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Primoz
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8/27/2025 5:25am Edited Date/Time 8/27/2025 5:33am
Primoz wrote:

Lewis doing Lewis things.

nsp234 wrote:

The only positive thing to say ist they have good taste in the products they copy. 

But crazy shameless

When it was brakes, I was saying "yeah, it's a copy, but there are also improvements". And not gonna lie, they work very well. 

Then came the cranks. And now this. At least they could have made the bearings less exposed... 

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Would be really surprised if they put Loic on the new bike in the midst of the title fight with Jackson... I'll bet Finn and Jordan are on it, and Loic joins the party after the season wraps up. 

Frame looks absolutely sick. Curious whether the team will put weights in/on it with given the under BB link. 

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8/27/2025 6:21am
Primoz wrote:

Lewis doing Lewis things.

more like lewis doing 5dev things

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Primoz
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8/27/2025 6:28am
jonkranked wrote:

more like lewis doing 5dev things

Notice pedals.

8/27/2025 6:38am

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8/27/2025 6:55am
Primoz wrote:

Lewis doing Lewis things.

FAFO might finally get to them because Outlier has a patent on drop pedals 🍿

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8/27/2025 7:06am Edited Date/Time 8/27/2025 7:07am
sprungmass wrote:

FAFO might finally get to them because Outlier has a patent on drop pedals 🍿

I don't think China cares about that. I'm hoping Joe Breeden does though and stops running their bullshit on their race bikes. 

Is that chainring design a copy aswell?

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8/27/2025 7:07am Edited Date/Time 8/27/2025 7:12am

I don’t think there’s a lot to see on the Demo linkage. AFAIK it’s conceptually basically just an upside down Enduro linkage.


Edit: someone deleted a comment, guess I should have quoted it.

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8/27/2025 7:47am
Primoz wrote:

Lewis doing Lewis things.

They lost the best damn part about the pedals, which is it being empty in the middle. Can't even copy it right, smdh

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8/27/2025 7:48am
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Yoda wrote:
Would be really surprised if they put Loic on the new bike in the midst of the title fight with Jackson... I'll bet Finn and Jordan...

Would be really surprised if they put Loic on the new bike in the midst of the title fight with Jackson... I'll bet Finn and Jordan are on it, and Loic joins the party after the season wraps up. 

Frame looks absolutely sick. Curious whether the team will put weights in/on it with given the under BB link. 

I bet we'll see Loic on it as well. I think it would be strange for them to "release" the production version of the bike but not have their fastest rider on it

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8/27/2025 7:49am
jonkranked wrote:

more like lewis doing 5dev things

Primoz wrote:

Notice pedals.

those too

8/27/2025 8:05am
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Yoda wrote:
Would be really surprised if they put Loic on the new bike in the midst of the title fight with Jackson... I'll bet Finn and Jordan...

Would be really surprised if they put Loic on the new bike in the midst of the title fight with Jackson... I'll bet Finn and Jordan are on it, and Loic joins the party after the season wraps up. 

Frame looks absolutely sick. Curious whether the team will put weights in/on it with given the under BB link. 

I've seen Jordan riding around this week at Les Gets and he was on the regular prototype, not this one. And as far as I've seen/heard, this is the first time the full carbon frame has been seen out in the wild, so I'm guessing it'll be coming out for the race?

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8/27/2025 8:08am

Oof. 

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Here I am with my ebike conspiracies but it looks like they have opened up space for a motor on whatever new kenevo/ e-demo they have planned. The linkage looks pretty refined under the downtube, straighten the seat tube a bit and you've probably got a good estimate of a new enduro  

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8/27/2025 8:13am
MikeyE wrote:
some different looking 40’s🫣

some different looking 40’s🫣IMG 9344 0

I know it's been discussed a bunch already, but got another pic of the new 40 at the Fox pit in Les Gets. Didn't get a pic of the dials, but looks like it's still running Grip X2. Dials looked the same as the current gen 40. 

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8/27/2025 8:40am

Is it just me, or is the linkage under the BB giving off some Niner vibes?

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8/27/2025 8:41am
Nobble wrote:
I don’t think there’s a lot to see on the Demo linkage. AFAIK it’s conceptually basically just an upside down Enduro linkage.Edit: someone deleted a comment...

I don’t think there’s a lot to see on the Demo linkage. AFAIK it’s conceptually basically just an upside down Enduro linkage.


Edit: someone deleted a comment, guess I should have quoted it.

I've got a model of it on linkage I can send, but it'll have to be later, I've got my PC unplugged due to some thunderstorms

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8/27/2025 8:44am Edited Date/Time 8/27/2025 8:44am
sprungmass wrote:

FAFO might finally get to them because Outlier has a patent on drop pedals 🍿

How exactly??? (the patent) 

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8/27/2025 8:51am
amaranth wrote:

They lost the best damn part about the pedals, which is it being empty in the middle. Can't even copy it right, smdh

I’m sure that is deliberate to get around patents, “look, our pedal doesn’t have a hole, totes different.” 🙃


I’ve been running them for a few months, don’t even notice the gap in the center and I think the void helps with grip. 

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just got pit bits in from rick. transmission DH derailleur and cassette, and more new demo pics below.

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8/27/2025 8:58am

team rumors.

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jonkranked
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8/27/2025 9:42am

prototype dorado posted on the other site. allegedly goes up to 220mm travel.  spotted an the gamux aon team. 

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