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It's more baby Assegai than beefy Forekaster.
Dissector v2 front, Forekaster rear seems like they’ll work well as a fast trail tire combo.
That’s exactly what I’ve been running on my 130/140 Stumpy and it’s been awesome.
I’ve been running DHR2 front forekaster v2 rear on my Fluid, what benefits could you see in swapping out the DHR2 for the new dissector?
I really like the current set up im using this is just a curiosity question, Praise to the Forekaster, such a fun tyre for a do it all short travel bike.
Probably a little less weight and little more rolling speed. Not a huge deal on the front.
Good enough for me
You've seen the Albert in the front on pro race bikes in dh/edr?
I've only seen magic mary radial in the front on pro race bikes. But with first ride tires it's hard to say which casing they use...
But the Albert seems to get very conflicting reviews. I still didn't get to test it against the magic Mary radial as this season seems to be jinxed for me. :/
Yeah in some videos and I’m pretty sure on some pictures either on pinkbike or other magazine articles online.
I’m not sure how I’d feel having it as a front tyre, but it looks a lot like an assegai
If there was a fast rolling radial ( nobby nic or similar ) I’d give it a shot and worst comes worst go with a Mary front again
How does the Albert compare to the Hans Dampf in the front as a less aggro / faster rolling tire than the MM?
I’m very confused as to where the Albert (and Tacky Chan, for that matter) both fit into the Schwalbe lineup. So many conflicting reviews on both.
Is the Albert an Assegai? Or it a fast rolling rear tire? People seem to say both. And WTF is the tacky Chan even for then? Everyone seems to disagree.
Why are these tires so polarizing?
Honestly I am curious about this as well. I also would like to try the shredda rear for a front or shredda front trimmed a bit. Those tires look insane and probably aren't the best for what I ride but still want to ride them.
Even having ridden the Alberts in basically all configurations, I feel similarly. They definitely aren’t ramped enough for me to consider them fast rolling at all, but they don’t really feel especially confidence inspiring when leaned over. That said, I’m giving the Gravity Soft 2.5 and Ultrasoft 2.6 another go, because they are wickedly effective at damping chatter and are still very fast downhill despite feeling a bit vague.
It's almost like riders have different preferences in tires, ride different trails in different conditions, and have different skill levels.
I'd say the tacky chan is a faster rolling, better cornering dhr - or a better braking, smaller dead zone dhf.
I think the magic marry is more comparable to an assegai. I haven't ridden the Albert, but it sounds like the aggressor in terms of being a middle of the road tire with no standout features - can anyone confirm/deny?
Anyone ridden michelin's?
Had a chance to ride the Enduro MH front and rear at rock creak recently and came away impressed. Really damped tire, but predictable, and surprisingly well rolling for how hefty of a tire it appeared to be.
Agree on the Tacky, just like the dhf did not like it as a front tyre, loved it as a rear, but I think it rolls faster than a dhf as a rear tyre.
Albert, it’s an Hans Dampf on steroids in my book, more braking, more grip, rolls a tad slower. Way better than the aggressor in everything but rolling perhaps, even though softer rubber and radial chasing make it roll better over roots and stuff than the hard rubber on the aggressor
Albert has a tread pattern that looks similar to an Assegai, but the side knobs are soft and fold over and smear on the dirt whereas and Assegai has side knobs that do not fold over or smear. DHR and DHF have side knobs that do not fold over or smear. These softer side knobs made me feel less confident in the Albert as a front tire, as I came off many years of DHF use where you lean over and it locks in once you get it leaned and it does not smear or feel loose and if it starts to break loose it does so in a gradual fashion that allows me to back off ever so slightly and not loose the front tire.
I didn't loose the front tire with the Albert and go down, but I had a few close calls with it starting to slide that were not confidence inspiring. I have not had that problem at all with the Magic Mary. I did not have that problem with the DHF or Assegai. When you feel the side knobs of the Magic Mary and try to peel em over with your thumb, they are far more stout than those on the Albert. Magic Mary/DHF/DHR/Assegai side knobs are stout and dig in to softer dirt and do not easily deform when on rock or hardpack. Albert side knobs will deform and slide if you ride light like I do. (Important to appreciate riding styles here- some other local guys I know who are pushing into their bars more than I do seem to get along with the Albert fine in front. Maybe they are getting that bigger contact patch from the radial casing??)
Albert is a very tall tire. It seems about 2.5 wide, but it is quite a bit taller than any other tire I've seen in a 2.5 size. I like this. I feel like it might contribute to some of its excellent small chatter dampening characteristics. Perhaps it also makes it feel fast going down and makes it seem to roll as well as my prior Eliminator T7 grid trail. Some have said that they felt like the radials roll slower than bias ply tires. That is not the case for me. I feel like they roll faster. Some recent PR's on lower angle corner sections of trail seem to support this.
These tires have a lot of traction. Like a shit load considering how fast they roll, how much they weigh, and how well they damp, and I am on the trail casing, not the DH casing. I love maxgrip DH casing Maxxis tires, but they are so slow and heavy they don't fit my use profile. The radials seem to offer more grip than the trail tires I've always run, grip that is closer to maxxgrip DH casing tires, but they roll much much faster and are a pound or more lighter than a dH setup (for the pair).
For now, Albert has become my rear tire of choice. I'm glad I have the extra one I took off the front and replaced with the Magic Mary radial because all the radials seem to be hard to find in stock right now.
Give em a try! I hope this info helps my fellow tire nerds.
Well, the DHF has the infamous dead zone in the middle of lean which I am glad I'm done with. Side knobs or not, it feels sketchy as a front tire unless you're a very agressive rider.
The Magic Mary was an instant confidence boost so definitely a new favorite.
Have got the Wild Enduro MS on my new bike (front and rear). I'm very surprised (and pleased) with how well they roll and the grip in all conditions has been insane too
I have enjoyed these as well however the rear tire will wear quickly in my experience but its very grippy (7 days of riding in finale will put it in a shape you could still ride it but some people would replace it.)
The new dissector looks great, finally maxxis has something to compete with the eliminator. Maxxis has the advantage of so many casing and compound options and the wide availability, i think itll be a really good tire.
I picked up a set of Conti Kryptos DH SS to take my trail bike to the park. I know theyre old news now, but damn i was really impressed. Traction was everything i had hoped for, and they look like theyre going to wear gradually. I went for a couple trail rides with them, and was surprised that they didnt feel nearly as heavy and slow as i was expecting comared to my current butcher t9/eliminator t9 both trail casings. The wheels that the contis are on are pretty basic, and the difference in wheels was more noticible than the tires.
Does anyone know if Maxxis is planning to release the new High Roller in MaxxTerra version? Love this tire out in front but I'd like Maxxterra in back for longer life.
How does the MS compare as a front tire - is it more 'always on' grip like the magic marry?
The MH up front was good, but definitely had a bit of a dead zone where it liked to be leaned over (not as much lean as a tacky chan imo).
very Magic Mary-ish indeed...little bit more supple than the DH22 definitively, which is good thing for slower enduroish tracks, not a bikepark ripper schralper ..
Hey everyone. I currently have the Nobby Nic Superground Soft 2.4 (Fr) and Crossking 2.3 (Rear) in my Top Fuel 8 and I mainly have been riding trails and light enduro with this bike (occasionally longer pedaling on dirt road, to get to some trails). I'm looking to change this set to NN supertrail speedgrip (rear) and a more aggressive in the front, but I'm limiting the weight to a max 1100 gr on this one. I was thinking about the Magic Mary 2.4 Superground (~1040gr), has anyone tried it? I do not see reviews on it, these are mostly on the Supertrail version (this one is close to 1200 gr, I'm not a weight weenie, but for me this is too heavy already).
note: Another option would be Kenda Hellkat 2.4 ATC and Pirelli Scorpion Wild Enduro M 2.4 (Prowall), would appreciate any opinion on these also.
29x2.40 Super Ground Mary (1040g) gets it 110g weight savings from the missing apex layer found in a Super Trail Mary (1150g).
Otherwise they are identical.
Apex helps to support sidewall in cornering, and mitigate snake bites mainly.
I talked earlier in the thread about the 29x2.25 Mary having a 2:2:2 tread pattern. It's pretty fun and light (910g), and was featured on many downcountry builds if you are ok with less volume. It also cheap as right now.
Thanks for the suggestion. The weight of 1150g is acceptable for me, so I could go for the Supertrail. But I see some local bike stores stating in their websites that this tire has around 1220 gr (for the 2.4"), then in this case the bar already raised too much, maybe they are wrong or considering too much margin on this weight (i'll reach out to them to verify). Anyway, the Superground I can only get importing it*...so the cost would increase in this case (import taxes are high here).
*same thing for the Maxxis Assegai 2.5 3c maxxterra 3ct/exo/tr (also weight less than 1100 gr -supposedly). The Kenda Hellkat and Pirelli Scorpion Enduro M I can also find on local stores, no need to import, and the reviews on them are generally good.
If you are ok with 1150g, the 29x2.50 Albert Trail Pro Radial isn't far off at 1180g.
A radial tire, even just at the front, would up the capability enough that you reconsider the importance of weight vs performance.
I've been running the new Dissector in the rear (MaxxGrip DoubleDown) the past three days in Whistler. Here is a wear update at 57 miles, 10,600 ft climbing and 15,000 ft descending.
Initial thoughts: Sick rear tire for down country and trail riding. Side lugs have good support, transit knobs add consistency when leaning over, and it rolls nice and fast. It's also got deep enough knobs that it can grab traction in moderately loose/mixed soil. I've really enjoyed how it allows my rear wheel to settle through supported corners. My rear wheel will slightly break loose and whip around a turn, but the side knobs will catch before the tire fully steps out. It doesn't have as much braking bite as a DHR2, but that's to be expected and okay. I haven't tried it in the front, and I think I'd reserve that for a short travel bike or if I was riding mostly low angle, flowing, smooth trails.
I haven't done any bike park laps yet for fear that my hands will literally fall off after riding so much the past week, but I'd suspect it makes a sick rear tire for jump trails since it rolls fast and corners well.
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