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Nobble
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8/7/2025 7:25am
Hoping they add a 170/180mm bike with a dual crown build at some point. Given the general vibe of Transition and the sheer amount of Spires...

Hoping they add a 170/180mm bike with a dual crown build at some point. Given the general vibe of Transition and the sheer amount of Spires and Patrols being used as park bikes (me included) it's a crime Specialized has a dual crown park bike and Transition does not! (the Status 170 park is a great bike though)

That bike already exists. Both the Spire and Patrol are approved for dual crown forks.


My friend was running his Patrol with a Boxxer and DH wheels for the past couple of years.


I guess they don’t offer it as a freeride build from the factory but you can 100% do it.

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8/7/2025 7:48am
Hoping they add a 170/180mm bike with a dual crown build at some point. Given the general vibe of Transition and the sheer amount of Spires...

Hoping they add a 170/180mm bike with a dual crown build at some point. Given the general vibe of Transition and the sheer amount of Spires and Patrols being used as park bikes (me included) it's a crime Specialized has a dual crown park bike and Transition does not! (the Status 170 park is a great bike though)

I've heard through the grapevine the Transition proto we've been seeing is dual 27.5 and may or may not be bringing back a name that hasn't been used in a minute. 

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vermontana
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Anyone heard updates on the new Spur that was rumored a while back in this thread? Not in the market for a big bike but that has my attention...

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8/7/2025 8:08am
saskskier wrote:
I've heard through the grapevine the Transition proto we've been seeing is dual 27.5 and may or may not be bringing back a name that hasn't...

I've heard through the grapevine the Transition proto we've been seeing is dual 27.5 and may or may not be bringing back a name that hasn't been used in a minute. 

Transition Dirtbag

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Simcik
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8/7/2025 8:41am
saskskier wrote:
I've heard through the grapevine the Transition proto we've been seeing is dual 27.5 and may or may not be bringing back a name that hasn't...

I've heard through the grapevine the Transition proto we've been seeing is dual 27.5 and may or may not be bringing back a name that hasn't been used in a minute. 

kperras wrote:
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Gran Mal
Blindside
Preston
BottleRocket
Covert
TR250/450
Bandit
Double

Not all of those were freeride bikes but some good legacy names to revitalize

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8/7/2025 8:47am Edited Date/Time 8/7/2025 8:47am
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Not quite tech news or rumors, but the AI-people that have made this "Nukeproof" website have a lot of "interesting" designs. Seems like Dual shocks is...

Not quite tech news or rumors, but the AI-people that have made this "Nukeproof" website have a lot of "interesting" designs. Seems like Dual shocks is the new norm: Nukeproof® Bikes, Pedals, Full Suspension Bike, Mountain Bike Official Website

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This website is absolute abysmal garbage, but, I think it goes without saying, bad actors are going to start using AI to scam people, and as AI improves and gets more easy to use, these websites are going to pop up more and more. We need to be aware of stuff like this. 

My favourite bit is this AI generated "testimonial" from a totally real buyer, talking about a downhill bike that hasn't been made in half a decade as if it is a current model e bike.

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rugbyred
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8/7/2025 9:37am
saskskier wrote:
I've heard through the grapevine the Transition proto we've been seeing is dual 27.5 and may or may not be bringing back a name that hasn't...

I've heard through the grapevine the Transition proto we've been seeing is dual 27.5 and may or may not be bringing back a name that hasn't been used in a minute. 

kperras wrote:
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Simcik wrote:

Gran Mal
Blindside
Preston
BottleRocket
Covert
TR250/450
Bandit
Double

Not all of those were freeride bikes but some good legacy names to revitalize

Don’t forget the Syren

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Blake_Motley
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8/7/2025 9:56am
j0lsrud wrote:
Not quite tech news or rumors, but the AI-people that have made this "Nukeproof" website have a lot of "interesting" designs. Seems like Dual shocks is...

Not quite tech news or rumors, but the AI-people that have made this "Nukeproof" website have a lot of "interesting" designs. Seems like Dual shocks is the new norm: Nukeproof® Bikes, Pedals, Full Suspension Bike, Mountain Bike Official Website

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This website is absolute abysmal garbage, but, I think it goes without saying, bad actors are going to start using AI to scam people, and as...

This website is absolute abysmal garbage, but, I think it goes without saying, bad actors are going to start using AI to scam people, and as AI improves and gets more easy to use, these websites are going to pop up more and more. We need to be aware of stuff like this. 

My favourite bit is this AI generated "testimonial" from a totally real buyer, talking about a downhill bike that hasn't been made in half a decade as if it is a current model e bike.

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This is a good glimpse into the future of the internet. If a company embraces AI in pretty much any capacity I’ll have no choice but to assume it’s a scam like this one because soon it’ll be too difficult to discern the bad actors from the good ones to even bother 

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TimBud
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8/7/2025 10:12am

Nukeproof are actually on the way back though.

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8/7/2025 10:19am Edited Date/Time 8/7/2025 10:20am

I wonder how that dual shocked bike runs with the new F+n0jX fork? Any testimonials there?


RE: the new fuels - I bet that "starting at" price is for the alloy frame, which is actually still pretty darn good. The completes are... kinda rough at MSRP. 

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8/7/2025 10:29am
Simcik wrote:

Gran Mal
Blindside
Preston
BottleRocket
Covert
TR250/450
Bandit
Double

Not all of those were freeride bikes but some good legacy names to revitalize

Think Wes Anderson

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8/7/2025 10:32am
Simcik wrote:

Gran Mal
Blindside
Preston
BottleRocket
Covert
TR250/450
Bandit
Double

Not all of those were freeride bikes but some good legacy names to revitalize

saskskier wrote:

Think Wes Anderson

Transition life aquatic!

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8/7/2025 10:48am

Saw a bottlerocket in person a couple weeks ago.  Perhaps it was a sign.

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8/7/2025 10:52am
Jotegr wrote:
I wonder how that dual shocked bike runs with the new F+n0jX fork? Any testimonials there?RE: the new fuels - I bet that "starting at" price...

I wonder how that dual shocked bike runs with the new F+n0jX fork? Any testimonials there?


RE: the new fuels - I bet that "starting at" price is for the alloy frame, which is actually still pretty darn good. The completes are... kinda rough at MSRP. 

Looks like Maxxxis is still having trouble with inconsistent casings...lol

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j0lsrud wrote:
Not quite tech news or rumors, but the AI-people that have made this "Nukeproof" website have a lot of "interesting" designs. Seems like Dual shocks is...

Not quite tech news or rumors, but the AI-people that have made this "Nukeproof" website have a lot of "interesting" designs. Seems like Dual shocks is the new norm: Nukeproof® Bikes, Pedals, Full Suspension Bike, Mountain Bike Official Website

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lol the Ohio location. hilarious. these credit card scam sites are all the same

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8/7/2025 1:23pm

I’ve been running F&R DHR, just got 2.5’s.  Comparing them to the old 2.4’s on the same internal rim, it’s hard to see any difference.  

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8/7/2025 1:56pm Edited Date/Time 8/7/2025 2:50pm

New Trek Fuel's configuration matrix below, added weights and prices below too (I thought Trek was reducing SKU's, but there are still a pile of build options between both bikes!)

Added the official PR with their detailed FAQ and more pics here - https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/three-bikes-one-kind-trek-l…

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EX, MX and LX animation (EX has RockShox, MX has Float X and LX has coil)

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Trek Fuel+ EX, MX and LX

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Trek Fuel and Fuel+ Frame and Bike weights

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Trek Fuel and Fuel+ Pricing (USD)

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shakazulu12
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8/7/2025 2:00pm
j0lsrud wrote:
Not quite tech news or rumors, but the AI-people that have made this "Nukeproof" website have a lot of "interesting" designs. Seems like Dual shocks is...

Not quite tech news or rumors, but the AI-people that have made this "Nukeproof" website have a lot of "interesting" designs. Seems like Dual shocks is the new norm: Nukeproof® Bikes, Pedals, Full Suspension Bike, Mountain Bike Official Website

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That's just hilarious.  Maybe their marketing intern took inspiration from the off roading world🤣  I used to have a Raptor that had dual shocks at all four corners (not mine in the image, but you get the idea)

Ford SVT Raptor 3.0 Remote Reservoir Secondary Bypass Shocks - Front , 95005

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8/7/2025 2:09pm

I want to hate The trek but it looks really good - The amount of options and adjustability I think is a win for the consumer, especially those who want a shortish travel bike but dont want a DH/super enduro when they decide to do the odd park day.

and in NZ it's cheaper than gen 6.

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8/7/2025 2:20pm
I want to hate The trek but it looks really good - The amount of options and adjustability I think is a win for the consumer...

I want to hate The trek but it looks really good - The amount of options and adjustability I think is a win for the consumer, especially those who want a shortish travel bike but dont want a DH/super enduro when they decide to do the odd park day.

and in NZ it's cheaper than gen 6.

A shortish travel bike with the weight of a DH is what we have here. Not sure I want that. 

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8/7/2025 2:47pm Edited Date/Time 8/7/2025 2:49pm

A shortish travel bike with the weight of a DH is what we have here. Not sure I want that. 

my gen 7 ex 8 is approx 15.8-15.9kg... thats nowhere near DH bike's... in its burly config the alloy is similar weight to a Pro's enduro bike ... Comparing to my slightly lighter test bike - spectral AL 6(new one) I dont think i can tell a difference... In stock form the 30t ring gets the cranks moving more but i've since swapped to SLX drivetrain with 32T ring and swapped wheels/tyres, fork and some other bits over and according to my ride Data, theres no measurable difference - i certainly didnt feel any difference(this is based on my Daily ride data of a 8km loop that has nearly 400m elevation gain, approx 1300 feet) - It rides up and down better than the data from my gen 6 I had when it came out(similar build)


My DH bike is deep into the 19kg mark.

The weight is getting slaughtered in the other site comments but everyone's missing the fact it's got a coil, 38, big brakes, Transmission... that all adds weight over a normal trail bike setup... and its in the lx setup which has 170mm fork...

 

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8/7/2025 3:32pm Edited Date/Time 8/7/2025 4:10pm

The question is why is the fuel now a freeride bike? (Almost)

Started out as an XC bike right? Not complaining but it is weird.

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8/7/2025 3:39pm
I want to hate The trek but it looks really good - The amount of options and adjustability I think is a win for the consumer...

I want to hate The trek but it looks really good - The amount of options and adjustability I think is a win for the consumer, especially those who want a shortish travel bike but dont want a DH/super enduro when they decide to do the odd park day.

and in NZ it's cheaper than gen 6.

A shortish travel bike with the weight of a DH is what we have here. Not sure I want that. 

From my perspective I want a mid travel bike everybit as burly as my long travel bikes.  I’d also imagine the next top fuel will be 120-140 with similar adjustability for those who are more weight conscious.


Really wish they used the remedy name.  But oh well.

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8/7/2025 3:42pm Edited Date/Time 8/7/2025 3:46pm
I want to hate The trek but it looks really good - The amount of options and adjustability I think is a win for the consumer...

I want to hate The trek but it looks really good - The amount of options and adjustability I think is a win for the consumer, especially those who want a shortish travel bike but dont want a DH/super enduro when they decide to do the odd park day.

and in NZ it's cheaper than gen 6.

A shortish travel bike with the weight of a DH is what we have here. Not sure I want that. 

Did you just decide to neglect the 13.9kg bike in your argument? Not to mention all the sub 15kg options - that’s how much bikes weigh now man. If you want a lighter one you can put a 1x10 groupset on it, and a rigid post, maybe even 27.5 front and rear.. it might be sub 13 by then.. but I Dont think you’ll do that. 

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8/7/2025 4:02pm

this was brought to my attention and I had to share it here. I try to keep an open mind but…
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLPorW6szs9/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

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jonkranked wrote:

a hot dog fits into steerer. by this logic that should increase both stiffness and deliciousness. 

I was wrong. A crab leg belongs in the steerer. 

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