MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

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DirtyHal
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6/5/2025 12:55pm
TimBud wrote:
New bar or just new graphic?[img]https://p.vitalmtb.com/styles/ckeditor_fullscreen/s3/photos/inline/editor/20250604_UCI_EDRDH_WC_Leogang_SR37956.jpg[/img]

New bar or just new graphic?

I did hear Steve Mathes mention on one of his shows recently some new Renthal MTB product was coming so I’m thinking this is something new.

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6/5/2025 2:26pm
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veefour wrote:
Ha, my Dad worked for one of the companies that first bought these into the UK back in the 1970's, I believe one of their first...

Ha, my Dad worked for one of the companies that first bought these into the UK back in the 1970's, I believe one of their first uses here was in aquariums (assuming it's a liquid crystal type).

I'm guessing these are the chemical ones as they sty coloured after they hit the temperature, so the mechanic doesn't have to charge over and snatch the bike to take the reading before it turns white again.

Also yes it's obviously the new brembo brake for specialized. 

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justshrddin
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6/5/2025 5:33pm

Aon Racing back on a covered up gamux????

from latest vital raw

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6/5/2025 6:50pm Edited Date/Time 6/5/2025 6:50pm

Maybe Manitou will finally launch a coil shock but it's not yet ready hence the frame sock.

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TEAMROBOT
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6/5/2025 10:00pm Edited Date/Time 6/6/2025 2:11pm
Nobble wrote:
Is Vital gonna be getting The Push VTX or the new EXT Vecta in for review?I’m trying to decide what to get to long-shock my sentinel...

Is Vital gonna be getting The Push VTX or the new EXT Vecta in for review?


I’m trying to decide what to get to long-shock my sentinel and there seems to be quite a few new products that offer a custom tuned shock for only a little more than a Vivid/DHX2.

I'm getting the new VTX in for testing shortly on my Megatower. Currently on the Vorsprung Telum. Excited to compare both against my stock SDLX Ultimate with HBO, which is a great shock in its own right.

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It's funny that everyone is up in arms over no clutch on the new XTR.. From the video I watched, it sounds like they just went...

It's funny that everyone is up in arms over no clutch on the new XTR.. From the video I watched, it sounds like they just went a different route to solve the chain slap issue by using 2 springs...

I'm really excited for the XTR embargo to be over so I can get more miles in on the new not-a-clutch clutch mechanism on my primary bike. Very curious how it will affect suspension feel to have spring force instead of friction controlling the cage on my long travel bike with relatively high anti-squat.

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Primoz
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6/5/2025 10:21pm Edited Date/Time 6/5/2025 10:22pm

Affect. Something affects something else and the result is the effect (of it). Effectively. 

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6/5/2025 10:23pm

Is it ehffect in Canada? 

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metadave
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Is it ehffect in Canada? 

Yes, but grammatically it covers both here. 

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zscs
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6/6/2025 1:47am

Remy seems to be using a protoptype Time DH pedal. From 5:46 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsmLolvB3mw

Time proto3 DH pedal
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6/6/2025 2:41am

Is that not just the new Xysto that I believe he helped develop?

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6/6/2025 3:02am
Nico_Hrndz wrote:
Looks like Production Privee is about to release a DH bike (not the CNCd one tho 🥲)

Looks like Production Privee is about to release a DH bike (not the CNCd one tho 🥲)

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She's a looker!

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6/6/2025 3:15am Edited Date/Time 6/6/2025 11:53am

Not gonna lie this leak got me excited

New Evil bike for sure, no idea what model it could be

It has frame storage, bolts are different

Looks like the flip chip design has 2 big bolts rather than the 3 smaller ones it had before 

Can’t wait to see what they’ve done!

(EDIT by @sspomer - PUSH asked us to nuke the photo as it was an accident that it went live)

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Packe777
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6/6/2025 4:49am
Evil96 wrote:
Not gonna lie this leak got me excitedNew Evil bike for sure, no idea what model it could beIt has frame storage, bolts are differentLooks like...

Not gonna lie this leak got me excited

New Evil bike for sure, no idea what model it could be

It has frame storage, bolts are different

Looks like the flip chip design has 2 big bolts rather than the 3 smaller ones it had before 

Can’t wait to see what they’ve done!

(EDIT by @sspomer - PUSH asked us to nuke the photo as it was an accident that it went live)

New Wrecker?

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6/6/2025 6:22am
It's funny that everyone is up in arms over no clutch on the new XTR.. From the video I watched, it sounds like they just went...

It's funny that everyone is up in arms over no clutch on the new XTR.. From the video I watched, it sounds like they just went a different route to solve the chain slap issue by using 2 springs...

TEAMROBOT wrote:
I'm really excited for the XTR embargo to be over so I can get more miles in on the new not-a-clutch clutch mechanism on my primary...

I'm really excited for the XTR embargo to be over so I can get more miles in on the new not-a-clutch clutch mechanism on my primary bike. Very curious how it will affect suspension feel to have spring force instead of friction controlling the cage on my long travel bike with relatively high anti-squat.

Are we now in a place where Shimano is sitting on the patents for an adjustable clutch?  Shimano going this new direction and SRAM still cannot make their clutch adjustable (or has given up on figuring out a way around the patents)?  Or am I confused and just spouting forum half-truths?

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sspomer
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gracey's norco has a new rear end. 1kg lighter than alloy

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6/6/2025 7:58am
TEAMROBOT wrote:
I'm really excited for the XTR embargo to be over so I can get more miles in on the new not-a-clutch clutch mechanism on my primary...

I'm really excited for the XTR embargo to be over so I can get more miles in on the new not-a-clutch clutch mechanism on my primary bike. Very curious how it will affect suspension feel to have spring force instead of friction controlling the cage on my long travel bike with relatively high anti-squat.

Should be interesting with the claimed 74%(?) increase in chain force, that is significant.

I feel the Shimano adjustable clutch system is currently the best option out there.

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notthatbryan
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6/6/2025 8:35am

I'm a little surprised at the cost of the new Shimano drivetrain. 

I would consider it to replace my XO1 AXS shifter and derailleur (and move that to another bike) that I've been running with an XT chain and cassette. 

Almost $1,000 for shifter and derailleur is higher than I was expecting. 

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6/6/2025 8:58am Edited Date/Time 6/6/2025 8:58am
sspomer wrote:
gracey's norco has a new rear end. 1kg lighter than alloy

gracey's norco has a new rear end. 1kg lighter than alloy

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I'm never going to be able to buy this f*cking bike, am I? 

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6/6/2025 9:05am

Transmission derailleurs aren’t cheap either, xo is 800 and XX is 950. 
Shimano pricing is on par with high end sram. It is also back compatible with existing chain and cassette. Transmission made it so you had to buy all new pieces when it was released. 

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6/6/2025 9:14am Edited Date/Time 6/6/2025 9:14am
sspomer wrote:
gracey's norco has a new rear end. 1kg lighter than alloy

gracey's norco has a new rear end. 1kg lighter than alloy

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Jotegr wrote:

I'm never going to be able to buy this f*cking bike, am I? 

maybe they got one step closer with a carbon stay ? looks like they are working in the right direction and slowly making improvements

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Dogboy
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6/6/2025 10:07am
I'm a little surprised at the cost of the new Shimano drivetrain. I would consider it to replace my XO1 AXS shifter and derailleur (and move that...

I'm a little surprised at the cost of the new Shimano drivetrain. 

I would consider it to replace my XO1 AXS shifter and derailleur (and move that to another bike) that I've been running with an XT chain and cassette. 

Almost $1,000 for shifter and derailleur is higher than I was expecting. 

I'll be interested to see how the XT pricing compares. We'll know soon enough and it's a more comparable kit to X0.

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Carraig042
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6/6/2025 10:12am Edited Date/Time 6/6/2025 10:12am

Do we know when XT will be announced? 

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HexonJuan
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6/6/2025 10:16am
It's funny that everyone is up in arms over no clutch on the new XTR.. From the video I watched, it sounds like they just went...

It's funny that everyone is up in arms over no clutch on the new XTR.. From the video I watched, it sounds like they just went a different route to solve the chain slap issue by using 2 springs...

When folx get accustomed to a certain doodad being on all of their other doodads, the absence of such can be a bit traumatizing.

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HexonJuan
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6/6/2025 10:17am
1llumA wrote:

Maybe Manitou will finally launch a coil shock but it's not yet ready hence the frame sock.

Now THAT is some optimism!

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krabo83
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6/6/2025 10:19am
lloyd506 wrote:
Transmission derailleurs aren’t cheap either, xo is 800 and XX is 950. Shimano pricing is on par with high end sram. It is also back compatible with...

Transmission derailleurs aren’t cheap either, xo is 800 and XX is 950. 
Shimano pricing is on par with high end sram. It is also back compatible with existing chain and cassette. Transmission made it so you had to buy all new pieces when it was released. 

but you can't really compare wireless xtr to transmission, it's more like eagle axs and that was also compatible with existing 12 speed. shimano is 6 years late if we're being honest.

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krabo83
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6/6/2025 10:27am
Dogboy wrote:

I'll be interested to see how the XT pricing compares. We'll know soon enough and it's a more comparable kit to X0.

XO is way beyond XT and closer to XTR , GX is more compareable to XT from my experience.

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yzedf
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6/6/2025 10:29am
Carraig042 wrote:

Do we know when XT will be announced? 

I think last time it took about a year?

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Dogboy
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6/6/2025 10:37am
Dogboy wrote:

I'll be interested to see how the XT pricing compares. We'll know soon enough and it's a more comparable kit to X0.

krabo83 wrote:

XO is way beyond XT and closer to XTR , GX is more compareable to XT from my experience.

Yeah, can't agree with that at all. I work on these things all the time and GX quality is wayyyy lower than XT in my experience. I'll add that the new Shimano stuff is totally comparable to Transmission, which is just the latest iteration of SRAM's wireless drivetrain. Curious why you think it isn't. Because it doesn't require a proprietary frame standard to attach the derailleur?

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Dogboy
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6/6/2025 10:43am
Carraig042 wrote:

Do we know when XT will be announced? 

yzedf wrote:

I think last time it took about a year?

It'll be much, much sooner than that.

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