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3kg just in the frame? Must be the components too. I think for big and heavy people who are fit the higher weight might be not that much of an issue.
For choosing the right emtb the weight, fitness, technical ability of the rider plus the terrain has to be taken into consideration more.
For example my sister would benefit from a light emtb as she was only able to buy a fairly heavy bike during the covid stock issues.
m1 bikes does this, but the sx motor is a little less wide than the cx, same hole patterns. you need to use some spacers to fit the sx in the same cx frame
had a bit of a think about this last night, same everything except Dave doesn't have cushcore in the rear like me and he runs Conti Tyres to my Maxxis. Besides that, only diff is his frame is carbon and he has the bigger 900w battery!
You got to witness this alloy frame, it's insanely over the top lol. I've cracked EVERY frame I've ridden besides this one.
You are right, we are both tall dudes, can muscle these things around OK, although 462mm chainstays are good and bad in ways.
I can't get with the ugly rumours. Going off their recent design language, it's going to look like a chunkier Stumpy, which is entirely fine
Yeah, I didn't see it and the guy I was talking to didn't elaborate. We'll find out in a few days I guess. My guess is that it'll look kinda pregnant due to big fat Trek-esque downtube from the giant battery, but skinny top tube and rear triangle because Spec is obsessed with light weight.
More Whs and new ring controller options from Fazua dropped today: https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/fazua-extends-its-product-range-new-mode-control-and-two-batteries.
Those are nice upgrades, but the F60 needs access to more of that 450 watts boost function (which rarely can be turned on btw) full time.
At the moment Specialized has taken all Levos off the German website... the wait seems to be slowly coming to an end... 👍
same in switzerland, only sl and kids models left
norco makes the sight vlt cx official
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/20-lighter-800wh-battery-ne…
Max Beaupre posted this on his IG. If I’m not mistaken ARI doesn’t currently have any E-Bikes with a Bosch motor. My guess is updated timp peak with the new Bosch motor
I'm sure the fanboys are aware of it:
https://www.emtbforums.com/threads/levo-gen-4-rumours-discussion-thread.41813/post-598715
I'm not sure if this has been discussed, but is there any reason bike companies haven't partnered with Garmin/Wahoo/etc to make an integrated head unit with GPS/activity tracking/power meter/etc?
What do you mean by partnered with? With many motor systems you can pair the motor with your head unit and see battery %, rider power, power level, etc. Brose/Specialized plays very nicely with both Garmin and Wahoo. Fazua works well with Garmin but not Wahoo. Bosch is the outlier in that it's a walled garden and you can't access any of the data streams without buying an aftermarket hack chip. I haven't owned a Shimano, Yamaha, or TQ so can't speak to them.
Doesn't the DJI Avinox have integrated GPS, Accelerometers etc for full tracking of all sorts of specs?
you can output STEPS (Shimano) data onto garmins. One useful one was actually outputting battery as a percentage instead of the vague 5 bar thing.
Specialized has (finally) launched the Turbo Levo 4. All the details and first ride impressions from @iceman2058 can be found here - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/e-bikes/specialized/turbo-levo-64786#comment-598601
Upcoming bullit is not a well kept secret. Some un-secured shopify stores allow the photos to come up in google images. Should be released within the next week or so from what I've heard.
GX Axs in Teal.
X0 Build in Black
Crabs 🦀 all the way down
Trek pairs with kamoot. You can download rides and directions will appear on the display. (You have to have the connect module and subscriptions to bosch flow+ and kamoot)
Specialized are putting a 10% tariff surcharge on the Levo 4 from May 1st.
https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2025/04/16/specialized-an…
The problem with this approach is the redunance with a smartphone or gps unit carried by almost all riders. So a head unit like this would be less flexible than a head unit like a phone or external gps that you can swap with bikes instead of having it fixed at one bike. Toptube mount of a display is also inferior to a device mounted at the stem/bar area with adjustable mounting angle.
It would be nice if there was some monkey link mount that would power the phone from the main battery.
bosch upgrades current CX motor power to 100nm/750w, releases CX-R motor and more
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/100nm-torque-750w-power-bosch-line-cx-upgradeable-july-plus-new-cx-r-motor-and-more
Well the race to moto these is on, which sucks. I've ridden exclusively e-bikes for 2 years due to injury/surgery, so not saying this as a hater, but as a long-time trail builder/advocate.
I'd like to see some large jurisdiction clamp down on specs. Limit peak, momentary torque to 85Nm (plenty!) and peak output to 650 watts (plenty!). Require that if it's going to be sold here and has pedals, it must be limited to the Class 1 specs. Sorry, you don't need to go 50kph/30mph on an e-bike. You don't need to soft pedal up a 20% grade. Get the moto you actually want. I'm not sure how to pull this off, game theory is a MFer, and clearly the masses just want a moto they can lift into the truck and ride on sidewalks. /rant
Bosch is saying that they are sticking to 750W, so 1 hp. If they didn't do something the market share losses were going to really add up and I feel that's a reasonable place to be.
They also made some serious technical improvements with the E-mtb+ mode.
I've been shopping my next e-bike very carefully. The list started off quite large but is now down to just a Regulator with the CX-R motor. Hopefully Transition offers it so that I can get the bike ordered.
On the nsmb write up about the race motor, Transition demoed a Regulator with the new race motor, which seems like a one-off. But at least we know that Transition is aware of the new motor and has played around with it.
yep have to agree, this arms race is the wrong direction.
On the trail, EP8 motor in "trail" mode is sufficient for me, when I get tired after riding, I'll ride home on Boost to the pub/home where there again is ample power to literally barely pedal and go 32kph.
Bring the weight down before making them more powerful. I suppose the Amflow has done this but it's not a build I would ride without breaking a lot of components.
Yeah, but that Unno with the Avinox looks pretttty prime…
Youve ridden an ebike for 2 yrs and still dont know that no matter how many watts and nm's there are the cut off is still 20mph/32kph on any class 1 emtb?
That being said i suspect we've reached the limit. The extra nm and watts will enable you to climb a bit faster or climb more technical trail but i think we're at the end of the traction/power ratio. What the exact number is i'll reserve judgement until i try it.
Im still on a 70nm e8000 and having fun and that allows me to see that an 85nm/600w would be useful and shouldnt add to any trail conflict. After that i'd want a day on a 750w or a 1000w.
Also with that kind of power you'll need a massive battery and extra heavy parts and frame to bikes already at their comfortable limit. I like the idea of sub 50lbs, super enduro travel, 85-100nm,.with a slimmer downtube 600w battery for a triple clamp fork and have the option of an extender or 2
Im boost all day until i crawl home in eco
when I win the lottery, there will be signs
I'd definitely love an Unno.
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