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Primoz
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3/6/2025 1:05am

Why shouldn't you? 

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dwhere
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Apparently 690 POE was too few

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3/6/2025 1:55am
boozed wrote:

Apparently 690 POE was too few

you can definitely feel the slack 🤣

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3/6/2025 2:19am
dwhere wrote:
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boozed wrote:

Apparently 690 POE was too few

Sooo, 870-880 Poe… why? 
And please someone explain it to me: the Hydra was the high end offering, the 1/1 was/is the low/middle end offering. Guess Hydra 2 will again be the top dog with even more Poe. But what is the Solix? Who’s it for? Another more middle middle offering? 

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trytochaseme
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3/6/2025 4:00am
dwhere wrote:
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boozed wrote:

Apparently 690 POE was too few

Sooo, 870-880 Poe… why? And please someone explain it to me: the Hydra was the high end offering, the 1/1 was/is the low/middle end offering. Guess Hydra...

Sooo, 870-880 Poe… why? 
And please someone explain it to me: the Hydra was the high end offering, the 1/1 was/is the low/middle end offering. Guess Hydra 2 will again be the top dog with even more Poe. But what is the Solix? Who’s it for? Another more middle middle offering? 

solix is the lighter system for road/gravel/XC

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3/6/2025 6:16am

Damn, finally a hub for people that thought that 690 poe was not enough to help them climb up hills

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3/6/2025 6:28am

I want to love I9 stuff because it's beautiful, and I'm still on team high engagement...but I broke two Hydras and in 30 years of cycling the only stem Ive ever had an issue with was an I9, and it broke on both the body and faceplate. Great warranty, but I needed it four times for three purchases.

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sspomer
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3/6/2025 8:01am

from our i9 article which is on homepage

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Hydra 3 will include a dyno powered speaker that only plays Eddie Murphy's classic "Party All the Time"

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I wonder if axle flex is still part of the design like their first Hydra hub. That's when under power the axle would flex and allow more pawls to be engaged. It eventually led to the failures and significantly shorter bearing life. With pedal kickback being a hot topic these days, this hub is a pretty tone deaf product. Their words "no one asked for more engagement but we gave it anyways"

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3/6/2025 8:27am Edited Date/Time 3/6/2025 8:28am
LTRRR wrote:
Remember Lal Supre Drive? It only ever reached the Nicolai Nucleon 16 Supre, but that partnership was stopped last year.The Lal Bikes guys are now moving...
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Remember Lal Supre Drive? It only ever reached the Nicolai Nucleon 16 Supre, but that partnership was stopped last year.

The Lal Bikes guys are now moving in a new direction and developing a steel/carbon frame built around their drivetrain. They hope this proves their drivetrain to the world, and that more manufacturers will show interest.

This is a screenshot from their latest Instagram reel (6th March).

Smart guy, but this is going nowhere.

He should consider directing his talents towards a small central mounted miniature drivetrain in a box. Of course it would not be compatible with e-bikes, so that's a problem too.

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segamethod wrote:

What do we have here? 

XS-1270 Eagle Transmission Cassette | CS-XS-1270-A1 | SRAM

10-52t compatible with an HG driver body, huh? Mech Tranny release imminent?

MSRP $215. Feeling pretty good about my prediction that a mechanical Transmission shifter + derailleur + cassette will cost more than slapping a Deore wireless shifter + derailleur on your existing Eagle/Shimano 12sp setup.

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3/6/2025 9:13am Edited Date/Time 3/6/2025 9:18am

For the XC demons out there - Roval released a sub 1000gram (claimed 998grams) control world cup wheelset today it looks like

Must be some of the lightest XC wheels from a big name manufacturer. And with some form of warranty/crash replacement, at least for US customers. Here in europe we dont get the "crash replacement" part of Roval unfortunately. Not sure how good or bad it is for you guys. 

Priced just around $3000 for you guys, where I live the price converts into about €3500, so quite steep.

 

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/roval-control-world-cup/p/1000218374?…


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3/6/2025 9:52am
segamethod wrote:

What do we have here? 

XS-1270 Eagle Transmission Cassette | CS-XS-1270-A1 | SRAM

10-52t compatible with an HG driver body, huh? Mech Tranny release imminent?

Integrated 10 tooth cog-lockring. I hope they offer a 1 meter breaker bar cassette tool with that. Going to be a lot of these on e-bikes with squid riders camping out in boost in the10t. Fun removal, unless there's some clever detail I'm missing. That said, I'm stoked to see mechanical t-type is almost here!

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3/6/2025 9:56am
segamethod wrote:

What do we have here? 

XS-1270 Eagle Transmission Cassette | CS-XS-1270-A1 | SRAM

10-52t compatible with an HG driver body, huh? Mech Tranny release imminent?

This is just the cassette that's used with the OEM only S1000 Transmission. That whole groupset kind of flew under the radar when it launched, but nothing new here. 

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I think the 10t is just moved outside the freehub and the locking is inside it. It's probably still indexed to the hub in some way. 

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3/6/2025 11:25am
sspomer wrote:

from our i9 article which is on homepage

Good gravy that's obnoxious. Great ad for Onyx hubs

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I WORK for DT Swiss so this is a shameless plug. No astroturfing here...

We launched new dirt jump wheels today. First time we have used brass nipples in a system wheel. We are also offering the hubs separately. 

D 1900 CLASSIC - Dirt Jump wheels | DT Swiss

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TimBud
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I WORK for DT Swiss so this is a shameless plug. No astroturfing here...We launched new dirt jump wheels today. First time we have used brass...

I WORK for DT Swiss so this is a shameless plug. No astroturfing here...

We launched new dirt jump wheels today. First time we have used brass nipples in a system wheel. We are also offering the hubs separately. 

D 1900 CLASSIC - Dirt Jump wheels | DT Swiss

Just saw those on a Madison (UK distributor).

They look sick. 
Finally someone is building a DJ wheelset that isn’t DMR 😚

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Primoz wrote:

I think the 10t is just moved outside the freehub and the locking is inside it. It's probably still indexed to the hub in some way. 

Yeah, if its Transmission standard the 10t is further outboard than traditional HG so they’ll have been able to capitalise on that. Got to give them credit for that workaround 

 

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Primoz
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Yup, agreed. 

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3/6/2025 12:24pm
ebruner wrote:
transition should have named that jpeg (and project) internally "WarrenG".  ok, I'll show myself out.  nah but seriously, that's an interesting bike.  I'm going...

transition should have named that jpeg (and project) internally "WarrenG".  ok, I'll show myself out.  

nah but seriously, that's an interesting bike.  I'm going to assume, becuase what's the worst that could happen.  Hopefully, that's got a bosch SX and is a light weight ebike.  I'm surprised how few bikes are on the market using that drivetrain.  The norco fluid vlt is a pretty sweet bike that I feel like is under appreciated... I've taken a spin on that bike and the bosch sx has a really natural feeling that benefits from spinning it up with a high cadance.  

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I just got a Transition Relay. I'm a bit nervous reading about all the reliability issues of the Fazua motor. havent rode it yet as its...

I just got a Transition Relay. I'm a bit nervous reading about all the reliability issues of the Fazua motor. havent rode it yet as its still snow and wet on the trails. I think more and more will be going to the Bosch SX for light weight ebikes.

The Fazua motor when it's working is fantastic. Kinda fitting for a Porsche brand, actually. 

Their stuff has been improving issues wise. If you get an issue the fix is usually permanent and Fazua seems pretty quick to fix it too. 

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3/6/2025 12:48pm
sspomer wrote:

from our i9 article which is on homepage

Good gravy that's obnoxious. Great ad for Onyx hubs

Oh my god no. I found my Hydras to be reasonable when we'll greased, but I've been happily on Onyx for two years now.

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3/6/2025 12:51pm
Simcik wrote:
I WORK for DT Swiss so this is a shameless plug. No astroturfing here...We launched new dirt jump wheels today. First time we have used brass...

I WORK for DT Swiss so this is a shameless plug. No astroturfing here...

We launched new dirt jump wheels today. First time we have used brass nipples in a system wheel. We are also offering the hubs separately. 

D 1900 CLASSIC - Dirt Jump wheels | DT Swiss

Still riding my old DT F550s that I stole off a 2012 Demo before selling it.. They've moved through 3 different DJ frames and 4 forks now, still on the original hubs and spokes too. 

These might be the first wheels to get me to jump(haha) ship though. 

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3/6/2025 1:18pm
Primoz wrote:

I think the 10t is just moved outside the freehub and the locking is inside it. It's probably still indexed to the hub in some way. 

The first 5 cogs (10,12,14,16,18t) are one solid removable cluster, so two separate clusters both with HG spline and the lockring is built into the small cluster but spins freely

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Kusa wrote:
Was this posted? 

Was this posted? 

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It's such a shame that PON ceased GT, I feel they were heading back in the right direction with race results technology, the new fury seems like the most active bike when you look back as all the slowmo stuff from last years world cups. I heard that the new bikes they had coming in 2025/2026 were amazing from a few different people, I feel all they needed to do it get rid of the worst looking logo to ever grace a modern bike, maybe started factory backed teams in each discipline , and maybe throw some money at bike launches as the Fury when it was released was done very quietly. 

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3/6/2025 1:35pm Edited Date/Time 3/6/2025 1:36pm

That new cable Transmission derailleur in combo with the X01 cassette (355 grams) & chain should be a pretty dope set up.

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piratetrails
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3/6/2025 1:36pm
segamethod wrote:

What do we have here? 

XS-1270 Eagle Transmission Cassette | CS-XS-1270-A1 | SRAM

10-52t compatible with an HG driver body, huh? Mech Tranny release imminent?

JVP wrote:
Integrated 10 tooth cog-lockring. I hope they offer a 1 meter breaker bar cassette tool with that. Going to be a lot of these on e-bikes...

Integrated 10 tooth cog-lockring. I hope they offer a 1 meter breaker bar cassette tool with that. Going to be a lot of these on e-bikes with squid riders camping out in boost in the10t. Fun removal, unless there's some clever detail I'm missing. That said, I'm stoked to see mechanical t-type is almost here!

Idk how much time anyone is really spending in the 10T gear with 34T and even 36T chainrings coming on modern eebs. Even in boost you'd hit 20mph pretty quick no?

Whenever I get another eeb I'm going to run a 30T with an 11-36T Zee drivetrain.

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3/6/2025 1:51pm
Suns_PSD wrote:

That new cable Transmission derailleur in combo with the X01 cassette (355 grams) & chain should be a pretty dope set up.

Not sure how well the transmission derailleurs plays with the last gen eagle casettes.

But a X0 or XX casette is right at 380 grams, an XX SL is 346 grams, so about 200 grams lighter than the SX casette linked earlier, but the SL one is VERY expensive, even at discount.

 

Im actually considering going fully battery free on my Enduro and "downgrading" to one of these derailleurs when they come out

 

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