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2/4/2025 1:10pm
sprungmass wrote:
New coil shock by Intend? 🤤

New coil shock by Intend? 🤤

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Thats neat but who makes the frame? Im intrigued

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2/4/2025 1:23pm
sprungmass wrote:
New coil shock by Intend? 🤤

New coil shock by Intend? 🤤

image 180

Thats neat but who makes the frame? Im intrigued

https://cdurobikes.com/

Pretty neat stuff. Steel FS look but composite build.

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2/4/2025 1:26pm
iceman2058 wrote:
Atherton unveiling the new S.200 alloy DH bike, on course at Red Bull Hardline Tasmania this week:

Atherton unveiling the new S.200 alloy DH bike, on course at Red Bull Hardline Tasmania this week:

gee.jpg?VersionId=GP3NFmXEn7rYfxVKcHqmrL6i YbelDG Hardline Tasmania 2025 S.200-1003 1  1DG Hardline Tasmania 2025 S.200-1004 1DG Hardline Tasmania 2025 S.200-1006
Aksel_Lfft wrote:

Maybe my memory stopped working but anyone knows why the switch to Alu bonded frame for the DH ? What is the rationale behind it ?

Just a secondary model. Less expensive, CNC instead of printed lugs. They have been marketing more as a park bike than race bike. Also has DW4 suspension, rather than DW6 on race(Ti/carbon) frame.

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2/4/2025 1:36pm
Nicolas M. wrote:

Looks like Bernard Kerr snapped his Phoenix frame at Hardline off the board cliff drop...

https://youtu.be/5Zi87e4V5UA?t=1193

jazza_wil wrote:
Looks permanently bottomed out all the way around the berm. Maybe a shock bolt or something but something looks funky with the rear end 

Looks permanently bottomed out all the way around the berm. Maybe a shock bolt or something but something looks funky with the rear end 

IMG 0221 0

Heard the rear triangle is very very weak on this bike hence the insane light weight of the frame.  Hope it holds up 

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Thanks all for the head's up ! Missed the info for sure 

P.S: Love being downvoted for asking a simple question 😅

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chriskief wrote:

Drive side seat stay appears to have let go.

Etney wrote:
Yeah, sure looks like it snapped in half.  Should probably not look like this

Yeah, sure looks like it snapped in half. 

 

Should probably not look like this
06df5aa002fe65c643e81fc450ab58c8

Can't wait for Pivots next HQ video about why the bike failed and them trying to claw back the customers 

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2/4/2025 2:11pm
sprungmass wrote:
New coil shock by Intend? 🤤

New coil shock by Intend? 🤤

image 180

Its some form or air+coil shock they are working on.

It was on an Alutech bike at the Craft Bike Days show back in november as well - I have a bunch of screenshots from it. But intend hasnt released any info other than its not being released any time soon (said a few months ago)
 

6d72724bbd10a1e9a1a00e684576f5c7.png?VersionId=r3SVGBjcxNz8llFk

 

They also have an airshock without the dual chambers in the works, so probably a twin tube design, for bikes that cant fit their normal Hover. Not sure if its something that we'll ever see - But this is one of the few pics I know of it:
05f8c7634198bc4ef99063bea84df76f.jpg?VersionId=F8bpI

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2/4/2025 2:15pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2025 2:18pm

Re BK's bike. Look at the angle of the rear wheel as he lands. 
image 185.png?VersionId=dxoV9wj26


And the audio is muted on his POV clip in his video when he hits the drop: https://youtu.be/smvc8h3F47Q?si=EsZcoCKF79KcXaHy&t=1098 

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2/4/2025 2:17pm
Aksel_Lfft wrote:

Thanks all for the head's up ! Missed the info for sure 

P.S: Love being downvoted for asking a simple question 😅

Use google next time. 

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re: bernard's wheel at such a peculiar angle - we have a thread about that 😬 

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2/4/2025 2:37pm
oolex wrote:
Re BK's bike. Look at the angle of the rear wheel as he lands. And the audio is muted on his POV clip in his video when...

Re BK's bike. Look at the angle of the rear wheel as he lands. 
image 185.png?VersionId=dxoV9wj26


And the audio is muted on his POV clip in his video when he hits the drop: https://youtu.be/smvc8h3F47Q?si=EsZcoCKF79KcXaHy&t=1098 

Seems like he actually just lowered the volume to the minium, because there is sound for me in that clip, had to raise it to 100% but. Doesnt sound very good

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2/4/2025 2:45pm
Nicolas M. wrote:

Looks like Bernard Kerr snapped his Phoenix frame at Hardline off the board cliff drop...

https://youtu.be/5Zi87e4V5UA?t=1193

jazza_wil wrote:
Looks permanently bottomed out all the way around the berm. Maybe a shock bolt or something but something looks funky with the rear end 

Looks permanently bottomed out all the way around the berm. Maybe a shock bolt or something but something looks funky with the rear end 

IMG 0221 0

Heard the rear triangle is very very weak on this bike hence the insane light weight of the frame.  Hope it holds up 

Ahh, the 2015 Yeti approach.


That’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off.

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2/4/2025 3:54pm
jazza_wil wrote:
Looks permanently bottomed out all the way around the berm. Maybe a shock bolt or something but something looks funky with the rear end 

Looks permanently bottomed out all the way around the berm. Maybe a shock bolt or something but something looks funky with the rear end 

IMG 0221 0

Heard the rear triangle is very very weak on this bike hence the insane light weight of the frame.  Hope it holds up 

Nobble wrote:

Ahh, the 2015 Yeti approach.


That’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off.

So one reason why I'm hesistant to share breakages of bikes online is that stuff sticks around forever.....I worked for a Yeti dealer at that time when the "pre production" frames had thin chainstays which cracked very easily. But it was just that very small number of initial bikes, I think we sold 2 SB6's from the batch and yeah they broke but the dozens that followed were fine in that regard (not perfrect bikes but the chainstays were actually fixed). But that reputation definitely stuck with Yeti which is a shame since it was such a small number of bikes, as opposed to a brand that has repeated similar failures

With the pivot - I'm no fan of armchair engineering but I looked up the spec and they claim 35 pounds for the complete bike?! There is a crazy amount of extra hardware so theres not much left for the frame tubes 😬 I don't get why companies still insist on cutting out so much weight from their bikes! It's a completely different manufacturing process to the prototypes so why wouldn't they beef it up just to be safe?

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So one reason why I'm hesistant to share breakages of bikes online is that stuff sticks around forever.....I worked for a Yeti dealer at that time...

So one reason why I'm hesistant to share breakages of bikes online is that stuff sticks around forever.....I worked for a Yeti dealer at that time when the "pre production" frames had thin chainstays which cracked very easily. But it was just that very small number of initial bikes, I think we sold 2 SB6's from the batch and yeah they broke but the dozens that followed were fine in that regard (not perfrect bikes but the chainstays were actually fixed). But that reputation definitely stuck with Yeti which is a shame since it was such a small number of bikes, as opposed to a brand that has repeated similar failures

With the pivot - I'm no fan of armchair engineering but I looked up the spec and they claim 35 pounds for the complete bike?! There is a crazy amount of extra hardware so theres not much left for the frame tubes 😬 I don't get why companies still insist on cutting out so much weight from their bikes! It's a completely different manufacturing process to the prototypes so why wouldn't they beef it up just to be safe?

I worked at a dealer during that time too and it was absolutely as bad as the internet thought it was.


I don’t buy the “pre-production” excuse. They all exploded, pretty much every SB5c and SB6c we sold. Front end, rear end, they all broke. At one point we had two bike boxes full of dead triangles.

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2/4/2025 4:32pm
sprungmass wrote:
New coil shock by Intend? 🤤

New coil shock by Intend? 🤤

image 180
Etney wrote:
Its some form or air+coil shock they are working on.It was on an Alutech bike at the Craft Bike Days show back in november as well...

Its some form or air+coil shock they are working on.

It was on an Alutech bike at the Craft Bike Days show back in november as well - I have a bunch of screenshots from it. But intend hasnt released any info other than its not being released any time soon (said a few months ago)
 

6d72724bbd10a1e9a1a00e684576f5c7.png?VersionId=r3SVGBjcxNz8llFk

 

They also have an airshock without the dual chambers in the works, so probably a twin tube design, for bikes that cant fit their normal Hover. Not sure if its something that we'll ever see - But this is one of the few pics I know of it:
05f8c7634198bc4ef99063bea84df76f.jpg?VersionId=F8bpI

side question...what is this balfa-esque frame are we looking at here?!

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apparently some guy mated a new front triangle to a balfa bb7 rear. pretty cool! (image found on fb):

bb7.jpg?VersionId=nupymyCKkiFw9SF1V
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2/4/2025 5:57pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2025 5:57pm
So one reason why I'm hesistant to share breakages of bikes online is that stuff sticks around forever.....I worked for a Yeti dealer at that time...

So one reason why I'm hesistant to share breakages of bikes online is that stuff sticks around forever.....I worked for a Yeti dealer at that time when the "pre production" frames had thin chainstays which cracked very easily. But it was just that very small number of initial bikes, I think we sold 2 SB6's from the batch and yeah they broke but the dozens that followed were fine in that regard (not perfrect bikes but the chainstays were actually fixed). But that reputation definitely stuck with Yeti which is a shame since it was such a small number of bikes, as opposed to a brand that has repeated similar failures

With the pivot - I'm no fan of armchair engineering but I looked up the spec and they claim 35 pounds for the complete bike?! There is a crazy amount of extra hardware so theres not much left for the frame tubes 😬 I don't get why companies still insist on cutting out so much weight from their bikes! It's a completely different manufacturing process to the prototypes so why wouldn't they beef it up just to be safe?

Nobble wrote:
I worked at a dealer during that time too and it was absolutely as bad as the internet thought it was.I don’t buy the “pre-production” excuse...

I worked at a dealer during that time too and it was absolutely as bad as the internet thought it was.


I don’t buy the “pre-production” excuse. They all exploded, pretty much every SB5c and SB6c we sold. Front end, rear end, they all broke. At one point we had two bike boxes full of dead triangles.

I also worked at a dealer when the SBs launched and yeah, it was as bad as the comment sections made it sound

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sspomer wrote:

re: bernard's wheel at such a peculiar angle - we have a thread about that 😬 

Engineered to entertain.

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2/4/2025 6:09pm
Nobble wrote:
I worked at a dealer during that time too and it was absolutely as bad as the internet thought it was.I don’t buy the “pre-production” excuse...

I worked at a dealer during that time too and it was absolutely as bad as the internet thought it was.


I don’t buy the “pre-production” excuse. They all exploded, pretty much every SB5c and SB6c we sold. Front end, rear end, they all broke. At one point we had two bike boxes full of dead triangles.

I'll see your two boxes and raise you:

photo15.jpg?VersionId=KQ6yt5gk8eSWhT3YPjPOIbsf
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2/4/2025 8:00pm
chriskief wrote:

Drive side seat stay appears to have let go.

Etney wrote:
Yeah, sure looks like it snapped in half.  Should probably not look like this

Yeah, sure looks like it snapped in half. 

 

Should probably not look like this
06df5aa002fe65c643e81fc450ab58c8

peecee wrote:
Can't wait for Pivots next HQ video about why the bike failed and them trying to claw back the customers 

Can't wait for Pivots next HQ video about why the bike failed and them trying to claw back the customers 

Probably not the super marketing boost they were hoping for.

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jonkranked wrote:
I'll see your two boxes and raise you:

I'll see your two boxes and raise you:

photo15.jpg?VersionId=KQ6yt5gk8eSWhT3YPjPOIbsf

Need to resurrect the old Ridemonkey thread about all of those breaking. That was some internet gold. 

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2/4/2025 8:16pm
Nobble wrote:
I worked at a dealer during that time too and it was absolutely as bad as the internet thought it was.I don’t buy the “pre-production” excuse...

I worked at a dealer during that time too and it was absolutely as bad as the internet thought it was.


I don’t buy the “pre-production” excuse. They all exploded, pretty much every SB5c and SB6c we sold. Front end, rear end, they all broke. At one point we had two bike boxes full of dead triangles.

jonkranked wrote:
I'll see your two boxes and raise you:

I'll see your two boxes and raise you:

photo15.jpg?VersionId=KQ6yt5gk8eSWhT3YPjPOIbsf

That looks like a Similar pile i seen of Supreme DH v4's.
Also, While i've never been keen on Evil, my friend goes through a frame every 6-7 months. 
200lbs and bang right by the downtube bolt... every single time(same place as VanCan's always broke)

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2/4/2025 8:43pm
sspomer wrote:
vital's pivot trailcat featurehttps://www.vitalmtb.com/features/first-ride-pivots-all-new-trailcat-sl-trailcat-lt
Dasf wrote:

Any rumors about a new/updated Firebird?

...asking for a friend...

I've heard from a friend who knows a Pivot distributor that the next Firebird is gonna have a high-pivot.

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2/4/2025 9:08pm
sspomer wrote:
vital's pivot trailcat featurehttps://www.vitalmtb.com/features/first-ride-pivots-all-new-trailcat-sl-trailcat-lt
Dasf wrote:

Any rumors about a new/updated Firebird?

...asking for a friend...

I've heard from a friend who knows a Pivot distributor that the next Firebird is gonna have a high-pivot.

Didn't we already see a prototype Firebird with the same lugged construction as the proto DH bike? Swear I saw one 3-4 months ago? 

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2/4/2025 9:43pm
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Frame definitely cracked somewhere. Looks like maybe 'seat stay' snapped this time. Bike low-riding and rear wheel pitched to the right. 

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Both seat stays are broken

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2/4/2025 10:04pm
So one reason why I'm hesistant to share breakages of bikes online is that stuff sticks around forever.....I worked for a Yeti dealer at that time...

So one reason why I'm hesistant to share breakages of bikes online is that stuff sticks around forever.....I worked for a Yeti dealer at that time when the "pre production" frames had thin chainstays which cracked very easily. But it was just that very small number of initial bikes, I think we sold 2 SB6's from the batch and yeah they broke but the dozens that followed were fine in that regard (not perfrect bikes but the chainstays were actually fixed). But that reputation definitely stuck with Yeti which is a shame since it was such a small number of bikes, as opposed to a brand that has repeated similar failures

With the pivot - I'm no fan of armchair engineering but I looked up the spec and they claim 35 pounds for the complete bike?! There is a crazy amount of extra hardware so theres not much left for the frame tubes 😬 I don't get why companies still insist on cutting out so much weight from their bikes! It's a completely different manufacturing process to the prototypes so why wouldn't they beef it up just to be safe?

Nobble wrote:
I worked at a dealer during that time too and it was absolutely as bad as the internet thought it was.I don’t buy the “pre-production” excuse...

I worked at a dealer during that time too and it was absolutely as bad as the internet thought it was.


I don’t buy the “pre-production” excuse. They all exploded, pretty much every SB5c and SB6c we sold. Front end, rear end, they all broke. At one point we had two bike boxes full of dead triangles.

I also worked at a dealer when the SBs launched and yeah, it was as bad as the comment sections made it sound

I wasn't even a Yeti dealer, and even my shop had a stack of broken ones out the back that Kashi wasn't interested in having back.

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2/4/2025 10:58pm

Neko postet pics of Asas Hardline Bike

New volume spacers from Fox.
IMG 2730

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2/4/2025 11:43pm
Aksel_Lfft wrote:

Thanks all for the head's up ! Missed the info for sure 

P.S: Love being downvoted for asking a simple question 😅

To be fair mate the S Series bikes have been out for 6 months now. You've had to be living under a massive rock to miss them 

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TimBud
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mrks wrote:
Neko postet pics of Asas Hardline BikeNew volume spacers from Fox.

Neko postet pics of Asas Hardline Bike

New volume spacers from Fox.
IMG 2730

They're really going all out on making it completely different than the last X2.

"See guys it actually is all new this time"

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