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I got it on good authority that sports car manufacturer Porsche is about to enter the E-Bike market as a motor (and possibly gearbox) manufacturer. 

They already supply motors to some bike companies under the Fazua brand, but mainly compact, lightweight units. The motor units that will be sold under the Porsche brand will be designed for the full-power e-bike market. What exactly that means in terms of power figures or what not, I don't know (- didn't ask about any technical specifics as I'm not terribly interested in e-bikes).

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1/19/2025 5:46pm

Word on the street is the new X2 is going horizontal in all but DH sizes... 

fergusr wrote:
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Nice Bronson, and with 160mm cranks! 😍 Too bad someone decided not to put a coiler on it. 😭
PS: why are we excited about the packaging of the shock internals?

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Kaos on the new Orbea DH bike

Kaos on the new Orbea DH bike

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already been posted 2 pages back, looks more like a rallon with DC fort… DH bike has a vertical shock.

1/20/2025 12:36am
Kaos on the new Orbea DH bike

Kaos on the new Orbea DH bike

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krabo83 wrote:

already been posted 2 pages back, looks more like a rallon with DC fort… DH bike has a vertical shock.

They wanted to built a new Freeride rig as well.

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1/20/2025 12:46am
FullSend wrote:
I got it on good authority that sports car manufacturer Porsche is about to enter the E-Bike market as a motor (and possibly gearbox) manufacturer. They already...

I got it on good authority that sports car manufacturer Porsche is about to enter the E-Bike market as a motor (and possibly gearbox) manufacturer. 

They already supply motors to some bike companies under the Fazua brand, but mainly compact, lightweight units. The motor units that will be sold under the Porsche brand will be designed for the full-power e-bike market. What exactly that means in terms of power figures or what not, I don't know (- didn't ask about any technical specifics as I'm not terribly interested in e-bikes).

Isn‘t that exactly the storie of pinion? As far as I know pinion is a porshe brand and they do fullpower gearbox motors….

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1/20/2025 12:55am

No, Pinion was started by two ex Porsche engineers. 

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1/20/2025 2:02am

Word on the street is the new X2 is going horizontal in all but DH sizes... 

fergusr wrote:
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Can't wait to spend another $1000 in tools just because they decided to change a bolt pattern or a diameter somewhere for no reason.

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1/20/2025 3:28am
FullSend wrote:
I got it on good authority that sports car manufacturer Porsche is about to enter the E-Bike market as a motor (and possibly gearbox) manufacturer. They already...

I got it on good authority that sports car manufacturer Porsche is about to enter the E-Bike market as a motor (and possibly gearbox) manufacturer. 

They already supply motors to some bike companies under the Fazua brand, but mainly compact, lightweight units. The motor units that will be sold under the Porsche brand will be designed for the full-power e-bike market. What exactly that means in terms of power figures or what not, I don't know (- didn't ask about any technical specifics as I'm not terribly interested in e-bikes).

probably the next iteration formerly known as greyp

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DorianKane wrote:

Isn‘t that exactly the storie of pinion? As far as I know pinion is a porshe brand and they do fullpower gearbox motors….

pinion is a bombardier company 

1/20/2025 4:01am

Word on the street is the new X2 is going horizontal in all but DH sizes... 

fergusr wrote:
e03efeee-edda-40d7-93f5-48ec486072cf-1 all 8815 3.jpg?VersionId=fNEsCvlFvEGm3W

Can't wait to spend another $1000 in tools just because they decided to change a bolt pattern or a diameter somewhere for no reason.

Well, from what I've seen, the bottom of it looks suspiciously BB-tool shaped. Hopefully you're in luck.

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FullSend wrote:
I got it on good authority that sports car manufacturer Porsche is about to enter the E-Bike market as a motor (and possibly gearbox) manufacturer. They already...

I got it on good authority that sports car manufacturer Porsche is about to enter the E-Bike market as a motor (and possibly gearbox) manufacturer. 

They already supply motors to some bike companies under the Fazua brand, but mainly compact, lightweight units. The motor units that will be sold under the Porsche brand will be designed for the full-power e-bike market. What exactly that means in terms of power figures or what not, I don't know (- didn't ask about any technical specifics as I'm not terribly interested in e-bikes).

sethimus wrote:

probably the next iteration formerly known as greyp

You might want to take a look here:
https://www.p2ebike.com/

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WMullins wrote:
Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's...

Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's outstanding but I would consider their opinions to be in good faith

Shocks and forks? Or just shocks

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dolface wrote:
Any ideas?

Any ideas?

IMG 3204
Big Bird wrote:

Tuned Mass Damper.

Yes, I know 😀, I meant about the possible big news...

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1/20/2025 7:34am Edited Date/Time 1/20/2025 7:36am

From Tahnee's insta:

 

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feels like the bike's coming soon...

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Dodgems wrote:
From Tahnee's insta:  feels like the bike's coming soon...

From Tahnee's insta:

 

Screenshot 2025-01-20 at 16.33.51.png?VersionId=H

 

feels like the bike's coming soon...

is the mechanic wearing a paper bag!?

 

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Dodgems wrote:
is the mechanic wearing a paper bag!? 

is the mechanic wearing a paper bag!?

 

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Wide brim boonie style hat and looking down. 

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1/20/2025 9:23am
WMullins wrote:
Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's...

Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's outstanding but I would consider their opinions to be in good faith

DServy wrote:

Shocks and forks? Or just shocks

Definitely shocks, not totally sure about forks. Sorry should have made that more clear

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WMullins wrote:
Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's...

Have heard through a couple of shop owners/industry members that the 2026 Fox lineup will be very, very good. Not exactly sure in which way(s) it's outstanding but I would consider their opinions to be in good faith

DServy wrote:

Shocks and forks? Or just shocks

WMullins wrote:

Definitely shocks, not totally sure about forks. Sorry should have made that more clear

Can't remember where I heard/saw it but someone was talking about how Fox was scrambling a bit after the lackluster launch of the Grip X damper...

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1/20/2025 9:31am
DServy wrote:

Shocks and forks? Or just shocks

WMullins wrote:

Definitely shocks, not totally sure about forks. Sorry should have made that more clear

dolface wrote:

Can't remember where I heard/saw it but someone was talking about how Fox was scrambling a bit after the lackluster launch of the Grip X damper...

I could see them updating the airspring/chassis for the next model, hard to see them launching a new damper so soon considering how long the GRIP2 stuck around for.

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1/20/2025 6:43pm
dolface wrote:

Can't remember where I heard/saw it but someone was talking about how Fox was scrambling a bit after the lackluster launch of the Grip X damper...

Do you mean that the performance of Grip X is lacklustre?

At least that would make it easy to choose between the Grip X and the Grip X2...

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1/20/2025 6:51pm
Dodgems wrote:
From Tahnee's insta:  feels like the bike's coming soon...

From Tahnee's insta:

 

Screenshot 2025-01-20 at 16.33.51.png?VersionId=H

 

feels like the bike's coming soon...

Not a gear box. You can see the derailleur in the shadow. Sad. I dont care what anyone says, the gearbox hype is like drivetrains moving to 1 by 10/11/12. Sure at first it was janky 1x10 One Up conversion kits. But now we have transmission. Which is cool. But what would be cool is better gearboxes. 

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1/20/2025 8:50pm
dolface wrote:
Any ideas?

Any ideas?

IMG 3204

I think the big news is Downamics is the official UK agent for countershox. 

Oh and the brake setup is a carbon tube and a crf hose guide. I asked 😅

 

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1/20/2025 11:37pm Edited Date/Time 1/20/2025 11:38pm
FullSend wrote:
I got it on good authority that sports car manufacturer Porsche is about to enter the E-Bike market as a motor (and possibly gearbox) manufacturer. They already...

I got it on good authority that sports car manufacturer Porsche is about to enter the E-Bike market as a motor (and possibly gearbox) manufacturer. 

They already supply motors to some bike companies under the Fazua brand, but mainly compact, lightweight units. The motor units that will be sold under the Porsche brand will be designed for the full-power e-bike market. What exactly that means in terms of power figures or what not, I don't know (- didn't ask about any technical specifics as I'm not terribly interested in e-bikes).

sethimus wrote:

probably the next iteration formerly known as greyp

Carmel wrote:

You might want to take a look here:
https://www.p2ebike.com/

interesting, a PON Porsche colab

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1/21/2025 6:30am
dolface wrote:

Can't remember where I heard/saw it but someone was talking about how Fox was scrambling a bit after the lackluster launch of the Grip X damper...

boozed wrote:
Do you mean that the performance of Grip X is lacklustre?At least that would make it easy to choose between the Grip X and the Grip...

Do you mean that the performance of Grip X is lacklustre?

At least that would make it easy to choose between the Grip X and the Grip X2...

Grip X seems pretty widely accepted as a dud of a product. I don't know anyone who's bought one (maybe a sign right there). The red site guys talked about Grip X on their review of the new Ripmo a few months ago, saying it compromised the bike.

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