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9/29/2024 8:54pm
grinch wrote:

Matt and Matthew Walker both have british flags

Tyler Waite’s got the stars and bars…

grinch wrote:

Looks like a bunch of missed flags in the full results. George Brannigan and Kye A'hern are now canadian. Wyn is british

That's because Wyn was doing it for the Bulldog!

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9/29/2024 9:24pm
grinch wrote:

Matt and Matthew Walker both have british flags

Tyler Waite’s got the stars and bars…

grinch wrote:

Looks like a bunch of missed flags in the full results. George Brannigan and Kye A'hern are now canadian. Wyn is british

Typically it’s because the team manager who registered them got lazy and just put where the team is located, hence why kolb on atherton has a British flag and Matt walker (kiwi) on pivot has a British flag as well 

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9/29/2024 10:52pm

$15k USD is roughly $23k and change in NZD. Talk about a come up for Lachie!

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9/30/2024 5:03am

$15k USD is roughly $23k and change in NZD. Talk about a come up for Lachie!

Can put a down payment on a starter home with that type of cash.  Make prize purses great again!

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9/30/2024 5:23am

Can put a down payment on a starter home with that type of cash.  Make prize purses great again!

Great again? Have mtb prize purses ever been great?

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9/30/2024 8:14am

What a great weekend. Dual Slalom drew the short straw weather wise, but there were some tight battles. Whip-off was a great time. It was awesome getting to watch the world cup riders with all the local/regional riders. It's wild how fast they are in person. It's a weekend that makes me almost want to race some dh. but, then again, it's also a great weekend to have fun, ride bikes and watch some great racing. 

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9/30/2024 3:19pm Edited Date/Time 9/30/2024 3:20pm

$15k USD is roughly $23k and change in NZD. Talk about a come up for Lachie!

Can put a down payment on a starter home with that type of cash.  Make prize purses great again!

Average home price in NZ is $900k+ sadly, a drop in the ocean. But yes, great to see the Prize purse up there. UCI needs to do the same.

Want to live in Sydney Australia? You will need $1.6m AUD for the median home.

Shit is bananas. 

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10/1/2024 3:08am Edited Date/Time 10/1/2024 4:09am

$15k USD is roughly $23k and change in NZD. Talk about a come up for Lachie!

Can put a down payment on a starter home with that type of cash.  Make prize purses great again!

brash wrote:
Average home price in NZ is $900k+ sadly, a drop in the ocean. But yes, great to see the Prize purse up there. UCI needs to...

Average home price in NZ is $900k+ sadly, a drop in the ocean. But yes, great to see the Prize purse up there. UCI needs to do the same.

Want to live in Sydney Australia? You will need $1.6m AUD for the median home.

Shit is bananas. 

As long as the UCI leaves the prize purse to be boosted at the WC venue host's discretion instead of already having a sum worthy of a world cup, this is wishful thinking. 

However, isn't it funny how these venues never actually top up the prize money to a meaningful amount? 

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10/1/2024 3:34am Edited Date/Time 10/1/2024 6:57am
casey79 wrote:

Great again? Have mtb prize purses ever been great?

I got a T-shirt for winning a mtb national championship (age category) that cost £60 to enter.
Meanwhile I got between £50-90 every weekend for podiuming at Cx races that were £10 to enter.

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10/1/2024 11:35am

It's live—US Open race coverage from the Gravity Co-op!

As always, so much gratitude to everyone who puts these shows together. I can only imagine turning these around is a massive lift, but they play a huge role in growing #USDH. Enjoy everyone! 

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10/1/2024 12:38pm

collegiate nats postponed. official statement from usac

USA Cycling Announces Postponement of Collegiate Mountain Bike Nationals 

The 2024 USA Cycling Collegiate Mountain Bike National Championships will be postponed due to damage to the host city and surrounding areas caused by Hurricane Helene. 

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – October 1, 2024 – On Tuesday, USA Cycling announced that the 2024 USA Cycling Collegiate Mountain Bike National Championships, originally scheduled for October 24-27 at Ride Rock Creek in Zirconia, North Carolina, will be postponed indefinitely due to the damage caused by Hurricane Helene. The storm significantly impacted the host city and surrounding areas, making it impossible to safely host the event as planned. 

USA Cycling is actively working to reschedule the event and will provide updates as soon as they become available. The safety of participants, staff, volunteers, and the local community was the top priority driving this decision. 

“We understand how disappointing this news is for the collegiate cycling community, and everyone involved,” said Kyle Knott, Director of National Events. “However, considering the destruction caused by Hurricane Helene, postponing is the right decision to ensure everyone’s safety and allow the local community time to recover. Our thoughts are with all those who have been personally affected by this storm.” 

Athletes and teams that have already registered for the event will be refunded. Further updates will be shared on usacycling.org and USA Cycling’s social media channels as they become available. 

For more information, contact the USA Cycling National Events team at nationalevents@usacycling.org 

ABOUT USA CYCLING (usacycling.org) 

USA Cycling is the national governing body for the sport of cycling and oversees the disciplines of road, track, mountain bike, cyclocross, gravel, BMX, and esports. USA Cycling’s mission is to grow participation and engagement with the sport of bicycle racing and achieve sustained international success across all cycling disciplines. USA Cycling supports cyclists of all levels and abilities, from those just beginning in the sport to international caliber athletes. The organization identifies, develops, and selects cyclists to represent the United States in international competition through the support of youth and interscholastic programs, amateur and grassroots bike racing events, athlete development programs, and operational support for cycling clubs, racing teams, and event organizers. USA Cycling has a membership of 80,000, sanctions over 2,500 events annually, and is a member of the Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) and United States Olympic & Paralympic Committee (USOPC). 

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10/1/2024 9:00pm

Trek really needs to sign Lachlan to the Factory team for next year, pay the kid whatever he wants. The Talent in the pits between him, Loris and Reece would be unbeatable, swagger for days!!

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10/2/2024 9:27am
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Trek really needs to sign Lachlan to the Factory team for next year, pay the kid whatever he wants. The Talent in the pits between him...

Trek really needs to sign Lachlan to the Factory team for next year, pay the kid whatever he wants. The Talent in the pits between him, Loris and Reece would be unbeatable, swagger for days!!

Loris has long been rumored off Trek for next season, Lachie is a no-brainer for TFR.

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10/2/2024 12:22pm

US Open post-race press conference

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10/2/2024 6:27pm

Curious:  do they ever try to focus riders practice at the same time of day as their actual Finals race?  In other words, Women's Finals, 12pm, therefore, their practice times would be 11:00-1pm?

It seems that vision is a quiet topic these days, so consistency of light from practice to race seems like a legit goal.  

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10/3/2024 2:59am
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Curious:  do they ever try to focus riders practice at the same time of day as their actual Finals race?  In other words, Women's Finals, 12pm...

Curious:  do they ever try to focus riders practice at the same time of day as their actual Finals race?  In other words, Women's Finals, 12pm, therefore, their practice times would be 11:00-1pm?

It seems that vision is a quiet topic these days, so consistency of light from practice to race seems like a legit goal.  

On the day before qualifying, the group B and A afternoon training sessions are around the same time of day as elite women's and men's finals.

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10/3/2024 7:50am

Can put a down payment on a starter home with that type of cash.  Make prize purses great again!

brash wrote:
Average home price in NZ is $900k+ sadly, a drop in the ocean. But yes, great to see the Prize purse up there. UCI needs to...

Average home price in NZ is $900k+ sadly, a drop in the ocean. But yes, great to see the Prize purse up there. UCI needs to do the same.

Want to live in Sydney Australia? You will need $1.6m AUD for the median home.

Shit is bananas. 

As long as the UCI leaves the prize purse to be boosted at the WC venue host's discretion instead of already having a sum worthy of...

As long as the UCI leaves the prize purse to be boosted at the WC venue host's discretion instead of already having a sum worthy of a world cup, this is wishful thinking. 

However, isn't it funny how these venues never actually top up the prize money to a meaningful amount? 

It's my understanding that the fees to the UCI are already one of the largest costs in putting on a WC. 

Maybe if the fees weren't so high, that money could be used for prizes. 

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10/3/2024 10:39am Edited Date/Time 10/3/2024 10:40am
LePigPen wrote:
we still never got to see a flip at a uci race. kaos said if he qualied in snowshoe (2019?) he'd flip the first jump instead...

we still never got to see a flip at a uci race. kaos said if he qualied in snowshoe (2019?) he'd flip the first jump instead of the skip everyone was doin

the tomfoolery he pulls on the old rampage course when it was more trick jumps and less youtube click bait shit was epic. ya im missin kaos n kade at the WCs

Issac attempted a back flip at the Snowshoe World Cup double header a couple years ago.

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Not in finals right? The whole issue is the guys able to flip often aren't the guys making qualies. Well. Except for Rennie but I don't...

Not in finals right? The whole issue is the guys able to flip often aren't the guys making qualies. Well. Except for Rennie but I don't think he committed to throwing away a finals race with a flip necessarily. Need Spomer lore on this lol

I believe it was, in fact, in finals; and on his homemade bike, at that. However, it was an attempt that ultimately ended in eating shit. Not a great backflip jump haha. 

A quote from the other site, "Pretty much I decided yesterday I was going to go back after this race and probably not really race anymore, so I figured I’d try to get a race run flip before I lost my chance. Kinda called it out before going back to look at the jump, so by the time I scoped it out and saw how flat it actually was, I’d already kindof commited. Convinced myself it was possible by the time practice was over so I just went for it in my race run haha. Obviously didnt work out amazingly, but I'm stoked I tried."

It's mentioned in the Vital finals post from that specific race, second bullet point. 
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/news/FINAL-RESULTS-Snowshoe-World-Cup-DH-Race-1,1395

And it's on his Instagram.
 

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10/3/2024 11:28am

Issac attempted a back flip at the Snowshoe World Cup double header a couple years ago.

LePigPen wrote:
Not in finals right? The whole issue is the guys able to flip often aren't the guys making qualies. Well. Except for Rennie but I don't...

Not in finals right? The whole issue is the guys able to flip often aren't the guys making qualies. Well. Except for Rennie but I don't think he committed to throwing away a finals race with a flip necessarily. Need Spomer lore on this lol

mckpat03 wrote:
I believe it was, in fact, in finals; and on his homemade bike, at that. However, it was an attempt that ultimately ended in eating shit...

I believe it was, in fact, in finals; and on his homemade bike, at that. However, it was an attempt that ultimately ended in eating shit. Not a great backflip jump haha. 

A quote from the other site, "Pretty much I decided yesterday I was going to go back after this race and probably not really race anymore, so I figured I’d try to get a race run flip before I lost my chance. Kinda called it out before going back to look at the jump, so by the time I scoped it out and saw how flat it actually was, I’d already kindof commited. Convinced myself it was possible by the time practice was over so I just went for it in my race run haha. Obviously didnt work out amazingly, but I'm stoked I tried."

It's mentioned in the Vital finals post from that specific race, second bullet point. 
https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/news/FINAL-RESULTS-Snowshoe-World-Cup-DH-Race-1,1395

And it's on his Instagram.
 

Oof I actually remember seeing this now. Ya that's not quite the jump I'd call someone on to for a flip lol. Legend for the send but especially on a race DH bike that's probably how that one was gonna go lol. Borderline anti hop lip. Rear suspension probably trying to suck in rebound before it left the wood.

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10/6/2024 8:29am

Any one know why it looked like Womens overall podium was top 5 and Men’s was top 3

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10/6/2024 4:56pm
mfoga wrote:

Any one know why it looked like Womens overall podium was top 5 and Men’s was top 3

My guess is they still see the women’s side as still growing and want to help the careers of four and five.  Where men’s is pretty grown so they just don’t care about those guys.

10/7/2024 2:27am

It looked on Nina and Myriam that they were not prepared for it really, coming from the crowd... Maybe someone messed up, they had to get extra bottles for bubbly for them as well it looked like.

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10/8/2024 5:40am Edited Date/Time 10/8/2024 11:42am
mfoga wrote:

Any one know why it looked like Womens overall podium was top 5 and Men’s was top 3

As an event announcer myself I will say it is totally plausible that the announcer forgot in the moment it was top 3 for the overall.  Even at the world cup level no one gives the announcers a script of the podiums, they just get an overall points sheet for the updated overall standings and then call the appropriate numbers of riders to that podium for each class.  There are a lot of podiums at the final race, so easy for something to slip...

Based on Marcus J's observation that Myriam and Nina weren't ready and the champagne bottles had to be scrounged around for, sounds like it could have been an honest mistake that they just rolled with in the moment.

 

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10/8/2024 7:37pm

So on Gwin's stories he is at what I understand is Whiteface. Looking at one of the pictures he is near the White face quad. 

Using the Whiteface Quad alone would not give the elevation for a WC track (approx 400m vert) They would need to use the next quad (Summit Quad) to gain more elevation (up to 965m vert) or go the other way & use the Gondola to the Little Whiteface Peak give them approx 713m Vert for the track.

I've never been there or know the terrain, but it seems the vert is there, and the Pics from Gwin look cool. Let's hope the track they build is exciting to race on.

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10/11/2024 5:13pm
deeboy wrote:
So on Gwin's stories he is at what I understand is Whiteface. Looking at one of the pictures he is near the White face quad. Using the...

So on Gwin's stories he is at what I understand is Whiteface. Looking at one of the pictures he is near the White face quad. 

Using the Whiteface Quad alone would not give the elevation for a WC track (approx 400m vert) They would need to use the next quad (Summit Quad) to gain more elevation (up to 965m vert) or go the other way & use the Gondola to the Little Whiteface Peak give them approx 713m Vert for the track.

I've never been there or know the terrain, but it seems the vert is there, and the Pics from Gwin look cool. Let's hope the track they build is exciting to race on.

The UCI doesn't specify an elevation change for DH, only that it must descend (hah!)

I don't know which event had the least drop, but the Canberra world cup and world champs made do with 180 metres over 1.5 km.

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10/12/2024 4:46am
boozed wrote:
The UCI doesn't specify an elevation change for DH, only that it must descend (hah!)I don't know which event had the least drop, but the Canberra...

The UCI doesn't specify an elevation change for DH, only that it must descend (hah!)

I don't know which event had the least drop, but the Canberra world cup and world champs made do with 180 metres over 1.5 km.

Canberra was horrific 🤣

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10/14/2024 8:54am
boozed wrote:
The UCI doesn't specify an elevation change for DH, only that it must descend (hah!)I don't know which event had the least drop, but the Canberra...

The UCI doesn't specify an elevation change for DH, only that it must descend (hah!)

I don't know which event had the least drop, but the Canberra world cup and world champs made do with 180 metres over 1.5 km.

Mr.Nally wrote:

Canberra was horrific 🤣

there was racing in Windham too, almost under 2min long

I guess for TV, they like short intense tracks. Also much easier to set up cameras etc on a smaller hill.
400m of elevation is in line with most racetracks in europe if im not mistaking

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