This forum always beats the embargoes ^^^ I love it haha But yes, Devinci has launched the new Troy (150/160mm) and Troy ST (130/140mm). Gone are...
This forum always beats the embargoes ^^^ I love it haha But yes, Devinci has launched the new Troy (150/160mm) and Troy ST (130/140mm). Gone are carbon frames, replaced by hand-made aluminum frames coming out of Devinci's factory in Chicoutimi, Canada. Compared to the outgoing Troy (140/150mm), the new models give riders a more defined intended use while still representing a sign of the more-travel-more-capable times—the ST retains many of the geometry numbers of the previous model, while the Troy is now slacker, has more travel, and comes with mixed wheels. Devinci is leaning hard into the 'premium alloy frames made in North America.' The frames are backed by a lifetime warranty and give riders a solid frame with solid parts at a reasonable price. Both models are launching with just one build (more to come in Spring 2025), and the Troy retails for $5,549 USD while the Troy ST retails for $5,299 USD. Both feature GX Transmission, RockShox Ultimate-level suspension, SRAM Silver-level brakes (w/ 200mm HS2 rotors), SDG Tellis dropper (220mm on XL), and Race Face ARC30 wheels.
Some notable details:
- Troy and Troy ST share the same frame but with different stroked shocks (except for Troy ST sizes XS & S, which do share a unique frame due to their dual 27.5" wheels) - Troy comes with mixed wheels - Troy ST comes with dual 29" wheels (size XS & S are dual 27.5") - A flip chip at the lower shock mount allows for mixed or dual 29" compatibility without altering geo - Troy: 64-degree HTA (hi position) // Troy ST: 65-degree HTA (lo position) - It has routing for mechanical drivetrains - Gone is SuperBoost 157, replaced now by Boost 148 rear hub spacing - There is now downtube frame storage accessed underneath the bottle cage - There are two chain stay lengths for the entire size range - Troy: sizes S-XL // Troy ST: sizes XS-XL - Based on Devinci's provided weights (size M), the new Troy is ~ 3.9 lb (1.78 kg) heavier than the previous carbon version (35.38 lb vs. 31.46 lb). The new Troy is ~1.36 lb (.6 kg) heavier than the previous alloy Troy. - The Troy ST is lighter than the Troy, at 33.95 lb (15.40 kg).
I had a Troy arrive a few days ago for long-term testing but have yet to hit the trails. The finish of the welds and bend in the down tube look pretty sweet in person. The down tube storage door latch is super easy to slide and remove; however, the opening is rather narrow. I had a Stumpy EVO nearby, and Troy's 'Shed' storage opening is almost 10mm narrower than that of the Stumpy. There is a tool bag included in the bike, and cables are neatly clipped to the inside of the downtube. I'm pretty jazzed up to see how the bike blends smashing rough trails with all-day comfort pedaling. It's not the lightest, and I want to know if that translates to a planted/calm demeanor descending and how it affects fatigue a few hours into an adventure. I love the idea of a made-in NA frame that's a bit more robust, matched with premium suspension/brakes and decent parts elsewhere at a realistic price. Let me know if you've got any specific questions/things you want answered as I get into testing.
Seems like a great option. I would have taken no storage over the weight penalty it no doubt comes with….still, great price for a made in Canada frame.
This forum always beats the embargoes ^^^ I love it haha But yes, Devinci has launched the new Troy (150/160mm) and Troy ST (130/140mm). Gone are...
This forum always beats the embargoes ^^^ I love it haha But yes, Devinci has launched the new Troy (150/160mm) and Troy ST (130/140mm). Gone are carbon frames, replaced by hand-made aluminum frames coming out of Devinci's factory in Chicoutimi, Canada. Compared to the outgoing Troy (140/150mm), the new models give riders a more defined intended use while still representing a sign of the more-travel-more-capable times—the ST retains many of the geometry numbers of the previous model, while the Troy is now slacker, has more travel, and comes with mixed wheels. Devinci is leaning hard into the 'premium alloy frames made in North America.' The frames are backed by a lifetime warranty and give riders a solid frame with solid parts at a reasonable price. Both models are launching with just one build (more to come in Spring 2025), and the Troy retails for $5,549 USD while the Troy ST retails for $5,299 USD. Both feature GX Transmission, RockShox Ultimate-level suspension, SRAM Silver-level brakes (w/ 200mm HS2 rotors), SDG Tellis dropper (220mm on XL), and Race Face ARC30 wheels.
Some notable details:
- Troy and Troy ST share the same frame but with different stroked shocks (except for Troy ST sizes XS & S, which do share a unique frame due to their dual 27.5" wheels) - Troy comes with mixed wheels - Troy ST comes with dual 29" wheels (size XS & S are dual 27.5") - A flip chip at the lower shock mount allows for mixed or dual 29" compatibility without altering geo - Troy: 64-degree HTA (hi position) // Troy ST: 65-degree HTA (lo position) - It has routing for mechanical drivetrains - Gone is SuperBoost 157, replaced now by Boost 148 rear hub spacing - There is now downtube frame storage accessed underneath the bottle cage - There are two chain stay lengths for the entire size range - Troy: sizes S-XL // Troy ST: sizes XS-XL - Based on Devinci's provided weights (size M), the new Troy is ~ 3.9 lb (1.78 kg) heavier than the previous carbon version (35.38 lb vs. 31.46 lb). The new Troy is ~1.36 lb (.6 kg) heavier than the previous alloy Troy. - The Troy ST is lighter than the Troy, at 33.95 lb (15.40 kg).
I had a Troy arrive a few days ago for long-term testing but have yet to hit the trails. The finish of the welds and bend in the down tube look pretty sweet in person. The down tube storage door latch is super easy to slide and remove; however, the opening is rather narrow. I had a Stumpy EVO nearby, and Troy's 'Shed' storage opening is almost 10mm narrower than that of the Stumpy. There is a tool bag included in the bike, and cables are neatly clipped to the inside of the downtube. I'm pretty jazzed up to see how the bike blends smashing rough trails with all-day comfort pedaling. It's not the lightest, and I want to know if that translates to a planted/calm demeanor descending and how it affects fatigue a few hours into an adventure. I love the idea of a made-in NA frame that's a bit more robust, matched with premium suspension/brakes and decent parts elsewhere at a realistic price. Let me know if you've got any specific questions/things you want answered as I get into testing.
This forum always beats the embargoes ^^^ I love it haha But yes, Devinci has launched the new Troy (150/160mm) and Troy ST (130/140mm). Gone are...
This forum always beats the embargoes ^^^ I love it haha But yes, Devinci has launched the new Troy (150/160mm) and Troy ST (130/140mm). Gone are carbon frames, replaced by hand-made aluminum frames coming out of Devinci's factory in Chicoutimi, Canada. Compared to the outgoing Troy (140/150mm), the new models give riders a more defined intended use while still representing a sign of the more-travel-more-capable times—the ST retains many of the geometry numbers of the previous model, while the Troy is now slacker, has more travel, and comes with mixed wheels. Devinci is leaning hard into the 'premium alloy frames made in North America.' The frames are backed by a lifetime warranty and give riders a solid frame with solid parts at a reasonable price. Both models are launching with just one build (more to come in Spring 2025), and the Troy retails for $5,549 USD while the Troy ST retails for $5,299 USD. Both feature GX Transmission, RockShox Ultimate-level suspension, SRAM Silver-level brakes (w/ 200mm HS2 rotors), SDG Tellis dropper (220mm on XL), and Race Face ARC30 wheels.
Some notable details:
- Troy and Troy ST share the same frame but with different stroked shocks (except for Troy ST sizes XS & S, which do share a unique frame due to their dual 27.5" wheels) - Troy comes with mixed wheels - Troy ST comes with dual 29" wheels (size XS & S are dual 27.5") - A flip chip at the lower shock mount allows for mixed or dual 29" compatibility without altering geo - Troy: 64-degree HTA (hi position) // Troy ST: 65-degree HTA (lo position) - It has routing for mechanical drivetrains - Gone is SuperBoost 157, replaced now by Boost 148 rear hub spacing - There is now downtube frame storage accessed underneath the bottle cage - There are two chain stay lengths for the entire size range - Troy: sizes S-XL // Troy ST: sizes XS-XL - Based on Devinci's provided weights (size M), the new Troy is ~ 3.9 lb (1.78 kg) heavier than the previous carbon version (35.38 lb vs. 31.46 lb). The new Troy is ~1.36 lb (.6 kg) heavier than the previous alloy Troy. - The Troy ST is lighter than the Troy, at 33.95 lb (15.40 kg).
I had a Troy arrive a few days ago for long-term testing but have yet to hit the trails. The finish of the welds and bend in the down tube look pretty sweet in person. The down tube storage door latch is super easy to slide and remove; however, the opening is rather narrow. I had a Stumpy EVO nearby, and Troy's 'Shed' storage opening is almost 10mm narrower than that of the Stumpy. There is a tool bag included in the bike, and cables are neatly clipped to the inside of the downtube. I'm pretty jazzed up to see how the bike blends smashing rough trails with all-day comfort pedaling. It's not the lightest, and I want to know if that translates to a planted/calm demeanor descending and how it affects fatigue a few hours into an adventure. I love the idea of a made-in NA frame that's a bit more robust, matched with premium suspension/brakes and decent parts elsewhere at a realistic price. Let me know if you've got any specific questions/things you want answered as I get into testing.
No Supa Boost™, frame storage, lifetime warranty, option for a 130mm mullet, and reasonable frame only price. Bravo Devinci!
The only critique I can think of is that It would have been really nice if they used a 60mm stroke shock instead of 55. (I know that’s a i2i increase though)
Those little shocks can get worked pretty hard with the sort of riding you can do on a bike like that.
But otherwise it looks great. As someone interested in a 160f/150r trail bike they certainly caught my attention. Still holding out to see the Sentinel though.
The only critique I can think of is that It would have been really nice if they used a 60mm stroke shock instead of 55. (I...
The only critique I can think of is that It would have been really nice if they used a 60mm stroke shock instead of 55. (I know that’s a i2i increase though)
Those little shocks can get worked pretty hard with the sort of riding you can do on a bike like that.
But otherwise it looks great. As someone interested in a 160f/150r trail bike they certainly caught my attention. Still holding out to see the Sentinel though.
This forum always beats the embargoes ^^^ I love it haha But yes, Devinci has launched the new Troy (150/160mm) and Troy ST (130/140mm). Gone are...
This forum always beats the embargoes ^^^ I love it haha But yes, Devinci has launched the new Troy (150/160mm) and Troy ST (130/140mm). Gone are carbon frames, replaced by hand-made aluminum frames coming out of Devinci's factory in Chicoutimi, Canada. Compared to the outgoing Troy (140/150mm), the new models give riders a more defined intended use while still representing a sign of the more-travel-more-capable times—the ST retains many of the geometry numbers of the previous model, while the Troy is now slacker, has more travel, and comes with mixed wheels. Devinci is leaning hard into the 'premium alloy frames made in North America.' The frames are backed by a lifetime warranty and give riders a solid frame with solid parts at a reasonable price. Both models are launching with just one build (more to come in Spring 2025), and the Troy retails for $5,549 USD while the Troy ST retails for $5,299 USD. Both feature GX Transmission, RockShox Ultimate-level suspension, SRAM Silver-level brakes (w/ 200mm HS2 rotors), SDG Tellis dropper (220mm on XL), and Race Face ARC30 wheels.
Some notable details:
- Troy and Troy ST share the same frame but with different stroked shocks (except for Troy ST sizes XS & S, which do share a unique frame due to their dual 27.5" wheels) - Troy comes with mixed wheels - Troy ST comes with dual 29" wheels (size XS & S are dual 27.5") - A flip chip at the lower shock mount allows for mixed or dual 29" compatibility without altering geo - Troy: 64-degree HTA (hi position) // Troy ST: 65-degree HTA (lo position) - It has routing for mechanical drivetrains - Gone is SuperBoost 157, replaced now by Boost 148 rear hub spacing - There is now downtube frame storage accessed underneath the bottle cage - There are two chain stay lengths for the entire size range - Troy: sizes S-XL // Troy ST: sizes XS-XL - Based on Devinci's provided weights (size M), the new Troy is ~ 3.9 lb (1.78 kg) heavier than the previous carbon version (35.38 lb vs. 31.46 lb). The new Troy is ~1.36 lb (.6 kg) heavier than the previous alloy Troy. - The Troy ST is lighter than the Troy, at 33.95 lb (15.40 kg).
I had a Troy arrive a few days ago for long-term testing but have yet to hit the trails. The finish of the welds and bend in the down tube look pretty sweet in person. The down tube storage door latch is super easy to slide and remove; however, the opening is rather narrow. I had a Stumpy EVO nearby, and Troy's 'Shed' storage opening is almost 10mm narrower than that of the Stumpy. There is a tool bag included in the bike, and cables are neatly clipped to the inside of the downtube. I'm pretty jazzed up to see how the bike blends smashing rough trails with all-day comfort pedaling. It's not the lightest, and I want to know if that translates to a planted/calm demeanor descending and how it affects fatigue a few hours into an adventure. I love the idea of a made-in NA frame that's a bit more robust, matched with premium suspension/brakes and decent parts elsewhere at a realistic price. Let me know if you've got any specific questions/things you want answered as I get into testing.
Really great looking bike, does anyone know if they will be putting out an updated Spartan anytime soon? I'm not a weight weenie but if I'm going to ride a 35+ lb rig, I would rather get all the travel for my sorta riding. As @Nobble mentioned, the small shock might get somewhat overwhelmed in the park/prolonged descent.
This forum always beats the embargoes ^^^ I love it haha But yes, Devinci has launched the new Troy (150/160mm) and Troy ST (130/140mm). Gone are...
This forum always beats the embargoes ^^^ I love it haha But yes, Devinci has launched the new Troy (150/160mm) and Troy ST (130/140mm). Gone are carbon frames, replaced by hand-made aluminum frames coming out of Devinci's factory in Chicoutimi, Canada. Compared to the outgoing Troy (140/150mm), the new models give riders a more defined intended use while still representing a sign of the more-travel-more-capable times—the ST retains many of the geometry numbers of the previous model, while the Troy is now slacker, has more travel, and comes with mixed wheels. Devinci is leaning hard into the 'premium alloy frames made in North America.' The frames are backed by a lifetime warranty and give riders a solid frame with solid parts at a reasonable price. Both models are launching with just one build (more to come in Spring 2025), and the Troy retails for $5,549 USD while the Troy ST retails for $5,299 USD. Both feature GX Transmission, RockShox Ultimate-level suspension, SRAM Silver-level brakes (w/ 200mm HS2 rotors), SDG Tellis dropper (220mm on XL), and Race Face ARC30 wheels.
Some notable details:
- Troy and Troy ST share the same frame but with different stroked shocks (except for Troy ST sizes XS & S, which do share a unique frame due to their dual 27.5" wheels) - Troy comes with mixed wheels - Troy ST comes with dual 29" wheels (size XS & S are dual 27.5") - A flip chip at the lower shock mount allows for mixed or dual 29" compatibility without altering geo - Troy: 64-degree HTA (hi position) // Troy ST: 65-degree HTA (lo position) - It has routing for mechanical drivetrains - Gone is SuperBoost 157, replaced now by Boost 148 rear hub spacing - There is now downtube frame storage accessed underneath the bottle cage - There are two chain stay lengths for the entire size range - Troy: sizes S-XL // Troy ST: sizes XS-XL - Based on Devinci's provided weights (size M), the new Troy is ~ 3.9 lb (1.78 kg) heavier than the previous carbon version (35.38 lb vs. 31.46 lb). The new Troy is ~1.36 lb (.6 kg) heavier than the previous alloy Troy. - The Troy ST is lighter than the Troy, at 33.95 lb (15.40 kg).
I had a Troy arrive a few days ago for long-term testing but have yet to hit the trails. The finish of the welds and bend in the down tube look pretty sweet in person. The down tube storage door latch is super easy to slide and remove; however, the opening is rather narrow. I had a Stumpy EVO nearby, and Troy's 'Shed' storage opening is almost 10mm narrower than that of the Stumpy. There is a tool bag included in the bike, and cables are neatly clipped to the inside of the downtube. I'm pretty jazzed up to see how the bike blends smashing rough trails with all-day comfort pedaling. It's not the lightest, and I want to know if that translates to a planted/calm demeanor descending and how it affects fatigue a few hours into an adventure. I love the idea of a made-in NA frame that's a bit more robust, matched with premium suspension/brakes and decent parts elsewhere at a realistic price. Let me know if you've got any specific questions/things you want answered as I get into testing.
Really great looking bike, does anyone know if they will be putting out an updated Spartan anytime soon? I'm not a weight weenie but if I'm...
Really great looking bike, does anyone know if they will be putting out an updated Spartan anytime soon? I'm not a weight weenie but if I'm going to ride a 35+ lb rig, I would rather get all the travel for my sorta riding. As @Nobble mentioned, the small shock might get somewhat overwhelmed in the park/prolonged descent.
I mentioned it on the other site. Comes with DD casing tires and GX Transmission. Would be fairly easy to drop 2-3lbs from the wheels and drivetrain.
Disappointing Lauf went with 2.6 tires across the board when they're pretty unequivocal that they think 2.8 are better for the type of riding they created the bike to do. Cowardice! Shame!
Small version of the Troy ST only spec'd 27.5" front and rear is a wild choice. At least it seems like it to me.
Man cannot live on hardtail alone so I'm always looking at my next potential bike purchase. I've earmarked aluminum as a priority. Ideally 130mm-ish travel. Not crazy slacked. I thought I found a winner.
But then these jabronis come in with 27.5" front and rear? Scratch that bike off the shortlist.
I wonder if there's any way to go with full 29" on the small size...
Small version of the Troy ST only spec'd 27.5" front and rear is a wild choice. At least it seems like it to me.Man cannot live...
Small version of the Troy ST only spec'd 27.5" front and rear is a wild choice. At least it seems like it to me.
Man cannot live on hardtail alone so I'm always looking at my next potential bike purchase. I've earmarked aluminum as a priority. Ideally 130mm-ish travel. Not crazy slacked. I thought I found a winner.
But then these jabronis come in with 27.5" front and rear? Scratch that bike off the shortlist.
I wonder if there's any way to go with full 29" on the small size...
Reading between the lines on the new Troy, gunna call it ST and LT for ease. It seems they share the same frame.
The LT has a 185x55 shock (150mm) and 160/29 fork and ability for mx or 29 rear. vs ST with 185 x 47.5 (130mm) + 27 140 or 29/140.
So I'd think in theory that you could go a 150 x ~140mm full 29 if you feel like it using a 185/50. But i'm a bit confused why the small is 27 front vs the LT is 29 front, but the geo is consistent across. Curious what is different on the small requiring a 27 on the ST and 29 on LT.
Also, whats the rumor on when they'd release a carbon? A ~33lb mid travel bike I'd be stoked to get some lbs off of.
Looks like a rad bike and went right to the stop of my short list. Does anyone know if Devinci ever does frame only sales?
At least they didn't have the balls to try the pull the 'release on sale' concept. Which I believe is still legal in most states. Illegal...
At least they didn't have the balls to try the pull the 'release on sale' concept. Which I believe is still legal in most states. Illegal in a lot of countries.
YT is the king of here's a brand new bike! And then mere months later it's 25% off and the people who bought on release probably feel... Quite awkward. That MX Jeffsy is sick tho I'm glad I didn't have ~3k laying around when they released it.
FWIW, YT will price match after a purchase. They did if for me twice. How long they'll honor it after purchase I don't know, but never hurts to ask.
Reading between the lines on the new Troy, gunna call it ST and LT for ease. It seems they share the same frame. The LT has...
Reading between the lines on the new Troy, gunna call it ST and LT for ease. It seems they share the same frame.
The LT has a 185x55 shock (150mm) and 160/29 fork and ability for mx or 29 rear. vs ST with 185 x 47.5 (130mm) + 27 140 or 29/140.
So I'd think in theory that you could go a 150 x ~140mm full 29 if you feel like it using a 185/50. But i'm a bit confused why the small is 27 front vs the LT is 29 front, but the geo is consistent across. Curious what is different on the small requiring a 27 on the ST and 29 on LT.
Also, whats the rumor on when they'd release a carbon? A ~33lb mid travel bike I'd be stoked to get some lbs off of.
Looks like a rad bike and went right to the stop of my short list. Does anyone know if Devinci ever does frame only sales?
Their website currently has a frame-only option for ~3k CAD on the new Troy. Includes shock, headset, and I think seatpost?
I saw these forks on a newly released Honda Electric trials motorcycle. Showa 39mm stanchions, 190mm travel. Could we see them available for downhill bikes one...
I saw these forks on a newly released Honda Electric trials motorcycle. Showa 39mm stanchions, 190mm travel. Could we see them available for downhill bikes one day?
Speaking of Moto suspension on MTB's... Yamaha had some very trick looking KYB suspension on their EMTB at the Japan Mobility Show in 2023. I think...
Speaking of Moto suspension on MTB's... Yamaha had some very trick looking KYB suspension on their EMTB at the Japan Mobility Show in 2023. I think I'll pass on the EPS power steering though.
That 8 tooth idler pulley/motor drive/whatever the heck it is, is a curious "design" choice.
I saw these forks on a newly released Honda Electric trials motorcycle. Showa 39mm stanchions, 190mm travel. Could we see them available for downhill bikes one...
I saw these forks on a newly released Honda Electric trials motorcycle. Showa 39mm stanchions, 190mm travel. Could we see them available for downhill bikes one day?
Speaking of Moto suspension on MTB's... Yamaha had some very trick looking KYB suspension on their EMTB at the Japan Mobility Show in 2023. I think...
Speaking of Moto suspension on MTB's... Yamaha had some very trick looking KYB suspension on their EMTB at the Japan Mobility Show in 2023. I think I'll pass on the EPS power steering though.
That 8 tooth idler pulley/motor drive/whatever the heck it is, is a curious "design" choice.
I noticed that too, but it might just work given that all the gears are inside the rear hub and the chainline is always straight. My guess is they were targeting "perfect" levels of antisquat in every gear with the transmission being in the rear hub like that.🤔 Is that how all that works? IDK, lol
Sorry may have missed the details but anyone know what’s pivots sept 30th announcement is about?
I think i missed that there was anything on the 30th but if i had to guess it will be something to do with the dh bike that one site already got for review.
I think i missed that there was anything on the 30th but if i had to guess it will be something to do with the dh...
I think i missed that there was anything on the 30th but if i had to guess it will be something to do with the dh bike that one site already got for review.
I think i missed that there was anything on the 30th but if i had to guess it will be something to do with the dh...
I think i missed that there was anything on the 30th but if i had to guess it will be something to do with the dh bike that one site already got for review.
Here's a funny one for you: Norco is adding downtube storage to their road bikes but not the mountain bikes. Hah!
Well, I think it makes more sense on a road/gravel bike IMO I've had heaps of road punctures etc - can store wind jacket etc in the frame.
Vs MTB... big rides are usally at the point of hip pack anyway or shuttle'd
For reference i've used alot of bikes with storage, Stumpy evo, slash.... marin etc i've used it once, to put my wind jacket away on the EVO... and that was on a local ride. Never used it otherwise... id rather my tube be on the frame if i ever needed it(which i dont)... as most internal storage is small holes. Id be happy to never have it on my bike and save production cost... and we complain about bike pricing....
Well, I think it makes more sense on a road/gravel bike IMO I've had heaps of road punctures etc - can store wind jacket etc in...
Well, I think it makes more sense on a road/gravel bike IMO I've had heaps of road punctures etc - can store wind jacket etc in the frame.
Vs MTB... big rides are usally at the point of hip pack anyway or shuttle'd
For reference i've used alot of bikes with storage, Stumpy evo, slash.... marin etc i've used it once, to put my wind jacket away on the EVO... and that was on a local ride. Never used it otherwise... id rather my tube be on the frame if i ever needed it(which i dont)... as most internal storage is small holes. Id be happy to never have it on my bike and save production cost... and we complain about bike pricing....
The times I’ve tried strapping a tube on my frame, the strap has worn a hole into the tube after a few months of use rendering it useless.
I’m happy to have a oneup pump/tool and a tube in my Enduro. It’s kinda like having the spare tire and jack in the trunk of your car. 99% of the time you forget it’s even there, but you’re grateful when it gets you home.
Well, I think it makes more sense on a road/gravel bike IMO I've had heaps of road punctures etc - can store wind jacket etc in...
Well, I think it makes more sense on a road/gravel bike IMO I've had heaps of road punctures etc - can store wind jacket etc in the frame.
Vs MTB... big rides are usally at the point of hip pack anyway or shuttle'd
For reference i've used alot of bikes with storage, Stumpy evo, slash.... marin etc i've used it once, to put my wind jacket away on the EVO... and that was on a local ride. Never used it otherwise... id rather my tube be on the frame if i ever needed it(which i dont)... as most internal storage is small holes. Id be happy to never have it on my bike and save production cost... and we complain about bike pricing....
The times I’ve tried strapping a tube on my frame, the strap has worn a hole into the tube after a few months of use rendering...
The times I’ve tried strapping a tube on my frame, the strap has worn a hole into the tube after a few months of use rendering it useless.
I’m happy to have a oneup pump/tool and a tube in my Enduro. It’s kinda like having the spare tire and jack in the trunk of your car. 99% of the time you forget it’s even there, but you’re grateful when it gets you home.
I had a tube on my Frame for 6 months and it looks brand new other than being dusty... but i used a frame mounted piece on bosses
I have a bike with frame storage, and basically all I use it for is carrying a windbreaker in the fall/spring. Whenever I've stashed tube, tools, etc. in there it makes a horrendous racket unless I spend a silly amount of time trying to fill up the storage pouches to the brim with padding around anything hard kept in them. 99% of my rides I don't need to carry a tube or pump, and the rides I should carry them are long backcountry rides so they can go into my pack which I'll be carrying then anyways.
Well, I think it makes more sense on a road/gravel bike IMO I've had heaps of road punctures etc - can store wind jacket etc in...
Well, I think it makes more sense on a road/gravel bike IMO I've had heaps of road punctures etc - can store wind jacket etc in the frame.
Vs MTB... big rides are usally at the point of hip pack anyway or shuttle'd
For reference i've used alot of bikes with storage, Stumpy evo, slash.... marin etc i've used it once, to put my wind jacket away on the EVO... and that was on a local ride. Never used it otherwise... id rather my tube be on the frame if i ever needed it(which i dont)... as most internal storage is small holes. Id be happy to never have it on my bike and save production cost... and we complain about bike pricing....
I couldn’t disagree more! After having a couple bikes with frame storage, it’s a must have feature for me. It gets oppressively hot here in Georgia for a good chunk of the year so wearing a backpack is a no go. I was an early adopter of the hip pack to keep stuff off my back. Previously that meant strapping stuff to my frame. But that leaves your tube exposed to the elements and there’s nothing worse than needing a tube and finding out it has a hole worn in it.
Now, I can fit my whole fix it kit (tube, tools, pump, links, zip ties, etc) in the frame along with a small water filter. One bottle on the frame plus a hip pack full of snacks and I can head out for 4-6 hours in the backcountry in comfort.
Other than a multi tool, I've not used anything else in the last 5 years on trail and ive ridden All over Alexandra, Queenstown, wanaka, nelson and other places throughout new zealand DD tyres at min, proper Rims/hubs with proper Pressures. No pissing about with EXO/+ etc
Id rather have that extra weight as tyres etc than tools and crap inside my frame that now cost extra to make because theres a damn big hole in it.
I've always lived by the saying "if you think about what could happen, it probably will"
How much does '(tube, tools, pump, links, zip ties, etc) ' weigh vs just running proper equipment built for what its being used for?
Other than a multi tool, I've not used anything else in the last 5 years on trail and ive ridden All over Alexandra, Queenstown, wanaka, nelson...
Other than a multi tool, I've not used anything else in the last 5 years on trail and ive ridden All over Alexandra, Queenstown, wanaka, nelson and other places throughout new zealand DD tyres at min, proper Rims/hubs with proper Pressures. No pissing about with EXO/+ etc
Id rather have that extra weight as tyres etc than tools and crap inside my frame that now cost extra to make because theres a damn big hole in it.
I've always lived by the saying "if you think about what could happen, it probably will"
How much does '(tube, tools, pump, links, zip ties, etc) ' weigh vs just running proper equipment built for what its being used for?
Hmm, not sure why you assume I’m “not running proper equipment.” My bike is built for riding in legit terrain where shit can go sideways. Thankfully, it rarely ever does - exactly because I “run proper equipment” - but if/when shit does happen I want at least a fighting chance of riding my bike out of the woods. I’ll take the minimal weight penalty of some bits and pieces rather than hiking out.
Well, I think it makes more sense on a road/gravel bike IMO I've had heaps of road punctures etc - can store wind jacket etc in...
Well, I think it makes more sense on a road/gravel bike IMO I've had heaps of road punctures etc - can store wind jacket etc in the frame.
Vs MTB... big rides are usally at the point of hip pack anyway or shuttle'd
For reference i've used alot of bikes with storage, Stumpy evo, slash.... marin etc i've used it once, to put my wind jacket away on the EVO... and that was on a local ride. Never used it otherwise... id rather my tube be on the frame if i ever needed it(which i dont)... as most internal storage is small holes. Id be happy to never have it on my bike and save production cost... and we complain about bike pricing....
Every single ride I have an extra liter of water in the frame storage. (using trail running water bottles/bladders from Amazon) I’d rather have that weight at the absolute lowest part of my bike than my back or hip. Being able to do a 3,000ft ride with no pack is so freeing I will not consider a bike without storage anymore. You should try it sometime.
Other than a multi tool, I've not used anything else in the last 5 years on trail and ive ridden All over Alexandra, Queenstown, wanaka, nelson...
Other than a multi tool, I've not used anything else in the last 5 years on trail and ive ridden All over Alexandra, Queenstown, wanaka, nelson and other places throughout new zealand DD tyres at min, proper Rims/hubs with proper Pressures. No pissing about with EXO/+ etc
Id rather have that extra weight as tyres etc than tools and crap inside my frame that now cost extra to make because theres a damn big hole in it.
I've always lived by the saying "if you think about what could happen, it probably will"
How much does '(tube, tools, pump, links, zip ties, etc) ' weigh vs just running proper equipment built for what its being used for?
Hmm, not sure why you assume I’m “not running proper equipment.” My bike is built for riding in legit terrain where shit can go sideways. Thankfully...
Hmm, not sure why you assume I’m “not running proper equipment.” My bike is built for riding in legit terrain where shit can go sideways. Thankfully, it rarely ever does - exactly because I “run proper equipment” - but if/when shit does happen I want at least a fighting chance of riding my bike out of the woods. I’ll take the minimal weight penalty of some bits and pieces rather than hiking out.
I would consider my tool kit pretty minimal, here's the breakdown:
One Up EDC pump - 114g
Multitool - 60g
Tire plugs - 20g
29" tube - 200g
Zip ties - 6g
Chain links + quick link - 8g
UDH hanger - 28g
CO2 cartridge - 70g
Sawyer mini filter + bag - 105g
TOTAL: 611g
Roughly 1.3 lbs. all in. That gives me enough tools to fix all but the biggest mechanicals along with an endless supply of water. I'd be carrying this stuff with me regardless, so the fact that it can live inside my bike full time is a huge bonus for me. I understand people have different priorities, but I personally wouldn't buy a bike without frame storage. I also place a high value on being able to service my bike and components which is why I don't have (or want) any electronics on my bike and why I wouldn't buy a bike with routing through the headset.
Decent majority of us have never had it, so it’s not a dealbreaker.
How many bikes do you guys own? If I only had one, I could understand leaving tools and stuff in there. Reality is I’d rather have all my trail necessities in one pack and not spread around the quiver. Less tools and tubes to buy as well. 🤷♂️
I’ll concede being able to stuff a windbreaker in there would be pretty clutch, but I’m usually able to stuff it in the pack I use. (Fernhill Flow Finder in case anyone was curious.)
Seems like a great option. I would have taken no storage over the weight penalty it no doubt comes with….still, great price for a made in Canada frame.
No Supa Boost™, frame storage, lifetime warranty, option for a 130mm mullet, and reasonable frame only price. Bravo Devinci!
The only critique I can think of is that It would have been really nice if they used a 60mm stroke shock instead of 55. (I know that’s a i2i increase though)
Those little shocks can get worked pretty hard with the sort of riding you can do on a bike like that.
But otherwise it looks great. As someone interested in a 160f/150r trail bike they certainly caught my attention. Still holding out to see the Sentinel though.
started a "cost of mountain bikes" thread here - https://www.vitalmtb.com/forums/hub/your-thoughts-cost-new-mountain-bike - shows vital survey data from 2010, 2016 and 2024.
I wish trunnion mount shocks be gone, too.
Really great looking bike, does anyone know if they will be putting out an updated Spartan anytime soon? I'm not a weight weenie but if I'm going to ride a 35+ lb rig, I would rather get all the travel for my sorta riding. As @Nobble mentioned, the small shock might get somewhat overwhelmed in the park/prolonged descent.
I mentioned it on the other site. Comes with DD casing tires and GX Transmission. Would be fairly easy to drop 2-3lbs from the wheels and drivetrain.
Disappointing Lauf went with 2.6 tires across the board when they're pretty unequivocal that they think 2.8 are better for the type of riding they created the bike to do. Cowardice! Shame!
Small version of the Troy ST only spec'd 27.5" front and rear is a wild choice. At least it seems like it to me.
Man cannot live on hardtail alone so I'm always looking at my next potential bike purchase. I've earmarked aluminum as a priority. Ideally 130mm-ish travel. Not crazy slacked. I thought I found a winner.
But then these jabronis come in with 27.5" front and rear? Scratch that bike off the shortlist.
I wonder if there's any way to go with full 29" on the small size...
Get a Norco optic or chromag darco
Reading between the lines on the new Troy, gunna call it ST and LT for ease. It seems they share the same frame.
The LT has a 185x55 shock (150mm) and 160/29 fork and ability for mx or 29 rear. vs ST with 185 x 47.5 (130mm) + 27 140 or 29/140.
So I'd think in theory that you could go a 150 x ~140mm full 29 if you feel like it using a 185/50. But i'm a bit confused why the small is 27 front vs the LT is 29 front, but the geo is consistent across. Curious what is different on the small requiring a 27 on the ST and 29 on LT.
Also, whats the rumor on when they'd release a carbon? A ~33lb mid travel bike I'd be stoked to get some lbs off of.
Looks like a rad bike and went right to the stop of my short list. Does anyone know if Devinci ever does frame only sales?
FWIW, YT will price match after a purchase. They did if for me twice. How long they'll honor it after purchase I don't know, but never hurts to ask.
Their website currently has a frame-only option for ~3k CAD on the new Troy. Includes shock, headset, and I think seatpost?
That 8 tooth idler pulley/motor drive/whatever the heck it is, is a curious "design" choice.
I noticed that too, but it might just work given that all the gears are inside the rear hub and the chainline is always straight. My guess is they were targeting "perfect" levels of antisquat in every gear with the transmission being in the rear hub like that.🤔 Is that how all that works? IDK, lol
Sorry may have missed the details but anyone know what’s pivots sept 30th announcement is about?
I think i missed that there was anything on the 30th but if i had to guess it will be something to do with the dh bike that one site already got for review.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DAVN6KbPU5O/?igsh=d3Ayam9qaHltN2ll
Thank you! I definitely missed that. Looks like a new shuttle. Maybe a new bosch motor.
Here's a funny one for you: Norco is adding downtube storage to their road bikes but not the mountain bikes. Hah!
Well, I think it makes more sense on a road/gravel bike IMO I've had heaps of road punctures etc - can store wind jacket etc in the frame.
Vs MTB... big rides are usally at the point of hip pack anyway or shuttle'd
For reference i've used alot of bikes with storage, Stumpy evo, slash.... marin etc i've used it once, to put my wind jacket away on the EVO... and that was on a local ride. Never used it otherwise... id rather my tube be on the frame if i ever needed it(which i dont)... as most internal storage is small holes.
Id be happy to never have it on my bike and save production cost... and we complain about bike pricing....
The times I’ve tried strapping a tube on my frame, the strap has worn a hole into the tube after a few months of use rendering it useless.
I’m happy to have a oneup pump/tool and a tube in my Enduro. It’s kinda like having the spare tire and jack in the trunk of your car. 99% of the time you forget it’s even there, but you’re grateful when it gets you home.
I had a tube on my Frame for 6 months and it looks brand new other than being dusty... but i used a frame mounted piece on bosses
I have a bike with frame storage, and basically all I use it for is carrying a windbreaker in the fall/spring. Whenever I've stashed tube, tools, etc. in there it makes a horrendous racket unless I spend a silly amount of time trying to fill up the storage pouches to the brim with padding around anything hard kept in them. 99% of my rides I don't need to carry a tube or pump, and the rides I should carry them are long backcountry rides so they can go into my pack which I'll be carrying then anyways.
I couldn’t disagree more! After having a couple bikes with frame storage, it’s a must have feature for me. It gets oppressively hot here in Georgia for a good chunk of the year so wearing a backpack is a no go. I was an early adopter of the hip pack to keep stuff off my back. Previously that meant strapping stuff to my frame. But that leaves your tube exposed to the elements and there’s nothing worse than needing a tube and finding out it has a hole worn in it.
Now, I can fit my whole fix it kit (tube, tools, pump, links, zip ties, etc) in the frame along with a small water filter. One bottle on the frame plus a hip pack full of snacks and I can head out for 4-6 hours in the backcountry in comfort.
Other than a multi tool, I've not used anything else in the last 5 years on trail and ive ridden All over Alexandra, Queenstown, wanaka, nelson and other places throughout new zealand
DD tyres at min, proper Rims/hubs with proper Pressures. No pissing about with EXO/+ etc
Id rather have that extra weight as tyres etc than tools and crap inside my frame that now cost extra to make because theres a damn big hole in it.
I've always lived by the saying "if you think about what could happen, it probably will"
How much does '(tube, tools, pump, links, zip ties, etc) ' weigh vs just running proper equipment built for what its being used for?
Hmm, not sure why you assume I’m “not running proper equipment.” My bike is built for riding in legit terrain where shit can go sideways. Thankfully, it rarely ever does - exactly because I “run proper equipment” - but if/when shit does happen I want at least a fighting chance of riding my bike out of the woods. I’ll take the minimal weight penalty of some bits and pieces rather than hiking out.
Every single ride I have an extra liter of water in the frame storage. (using trail running water bottles/bladders from Amazon) I’d rather have that weight at the absolute lowest part of my bike than my back or hip. Being able to do a 3,000ft ride with no pack is so freeing I will not consider a bike without storage anymore. You should try it sometime.
I would consider my tool kit pretty minimal, here's the breakdown:
One Up EDC pump - 114g
Multitool - 60g
Tire plugs - 20g
29" tube - 200g
Zip ties - 6g
Chain links + quick link - 8g
UDH hanger - 28g
CO2 cartridge - 70g
Sawyer mini filter + bag - 105g
TOTAL: 611g
Roughly 1.3 lbs. all in. That gives me enough tools to fix all but the biggest mechanicals along with an endless supply of water. I'd be carrying this stuff with me regardless, so the fact that it can live inside my bike full time is a huge bonus for me. I understand people have different priorities, but I personally wouldn't buy a bike without frame storage. I also place a high value on being able to service my bike and components which is why I don't have (or want) any electronics on my bike and why I wouldn't buy a bike with routing through the headset.
Frame storage tech rumors and innovation…
Decent majority of us have never had it, so it’s not a dealbreaker.
How many bikes do you guys own? If I only had one, I could understand leaving tools and stuff in there. Reality is I’d rather have all my trail necessities in one pack and not spread around the quiver. Less tools and tubes to buy as well. 🤷♂️
I’ll concede being able to stuff a windbreaker in there would be pretty clutch, but I’m usually able to stuff it in the pack I use. (Fernhill Flow Finder in case anyone was curious.)