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according to local trek dealer the rail will be part of the Bosch announcement.
Still frustrating the really good gen 4 rail only got released as carbon and higher end spec's.
Which part of it is actually really good?
It’s the same thing as the gen 2 still rides like a school bus, let’s hope the focus on the next one is not just the motor power but actually ride feel like the Orbea Wild and the 160e that both ride way lighter than they are and actually move around easily
On the Propain Website you can already spec the Enduro Supersoft Contis, haven‘t seen that elsewhere.
Looks like they got a bit thicker as well 🐷
This is exactly what we have been doing. Since March of 2020.
An Ebike isn’t just about making the climb easier. At least that’s what I’ve learned about them. It’s more about time management. I don’t have to plan my whole day around a ride on my favorite trail.
You can also get to trails that you don’t ride as much because they are easier to access. It’s also interesting to run them in a different direction that wouldn’t be feasible on your regular bike. Did I mention climbing technical trails has a whole new spin to it?
I still prefer riding my analog bike to be fair. Ebikes are just another tool in the quiver to make riding fun.
E-bike parks already exist. Well, at least one. We have a small bike park in Korea that is exclusive to E's for some reason. You can turn laps in about 10 minutes. Another bike park set up an open-side shed with outlets for bike/battery charging in the parking lot. People leave their battery and charger there for a few hours as they turn laps. No lockers or anything, just all sitting out in the open in the shed.
And I thought I was Weight Weenie! That is some contradictory shit right there. You want a bike absolutely as light as possible to optimize, the descents?! LOL
All this trouble and a custom one-off e-bike not useful for most riders that want to do more than just the same 600' lap for the rest of their lives, to save 2#s. Hopefully you are not a project manager or that brand is going bust!
A Relay frame weighs about 6#s. The battery weighs 5#s and does about 2-3.5K' in turbo mode and you can swap the battery quickly if need be. There is your solution, and you'll be able to double your descents.
Kenevo, not Enduro, if Transmission was the point of sharing.
Yes, Yoshimura.
I browse a lot of DIY ebike forums, and I'm still surpirsed there isn't a good bolt-on ebike kit that doesn't make your bike look like a high school engineering project. We don't need 1000 watt motors and batteries the size of a backpack, like someone said before an ultra compact and lightweight solution thats putting out even less power than the lightweight SL ebikes. A motor that tops out at 200 watts so you can get away with a 280 wh battery. Some of people's DIY builds get rather sleek looking, and when you make your own battery bank and don't have to worry about liability, they can integrate well into the bike. Imagine if you just strapped your battery to the downtube, adding minimal bulk, and swapped your crankset to get an "Eco mode only" ebike that adds maybe 6 pounds to the experience.
I know there are a few "solutions" out there like this, but none of them seem viable yet. Theres the brake mounted one, a Hammershcmit chainring-style one, and CYC, which is probably the only one I would trust at this point.
The amount of faff…
Brilliant. Can I buy you out of your patent(s).
Or do you want to partner to bring this to market
In all seriousness this would put me at 44 lbs. I’m poor so I can’t afford an ebike, but most riders would rather have a nice ebike that’s well integrated that weighs the same, has dealer supported service and warranty and an app that tracks your jumps
I am currently evaluating approaches from Milwaukee and Ryobi
I just got an ebike and it's blowing my mind. I don't think I was ever an ass about it, but I was certainly a bit judgy before. Now, I get it. For me, it just eliminates the slow, sloggy parts of the ride – it's always cruisy and fun. Plus, the penalty for using reliable, confidence-inspiring parts – beefy tires, big brakes, hefty suspension – is essentially eliminated.
Isn't going to replace analog riding for me, it's gonna get me on a bike more, because I don't have to search for motivation when I'm tired, time pressed, or it's 90+ out. It's just FUN.
Absolutely kills tires though. 😆
The other rumor is that there wont be a bike in speshs line up between the stumpy and the demo - although i have zero evidence to back up this claim
Source - a British mtb journalist
Same boat as UC and Noah, I was pretty skeptical and I don't shy away from big pedal days but man a big travel e-bike has been nothing but good times for me. I still ride all my bikes, I'm still 4+ W/kg, I haven't gotten fat, and I can pack a whole lot of fun into a small amount of time thanks to my e-bike.
Can't wait for that Pinion MGU - who's got tech rumors of when it'll be available in the US?
Original release date was "sometime 2025" which means 2026 at the soonest.
I rode my ebike a lot the first year, then got kinda bored. Most people I used to ride all mountain with on normal bikes are now riding more enduro on ebikes and it's not my thing. I don't care much about going fast either up or down, I care more about being in movement through the landscape.
I wanted an ebike to make the ride longer (and less painful), not faster and steeper.
I mostly ride my rigid fatbike now.
But the whole group I used to ride with has changed, kinda exploded with covid.
Well I think we're going OT.
Sounds like skypark minus the battery lockers already
But there already is, the Status 2 (assuming we are going by travel).
I can't see them dropping the Enduro completely. Maybe it won't get refreshed this year but I'm sure it will in 2025.
Can confirm
I've been away for a while, so not checking regularly for a couple weeks, so I spent a couple hours trying to catch up, prolly 12 or so pages
the content and tone of comments has changed drastically in the last year. I can only assume with increased users and engagement, which has brought along with it, a much more negative and judgy tone. I was drawn to this comment section for the rumours and innovation (and spy shots, and great info from the likes or TEAMROBOT, Cascade, Dave, and many others) but I find myself turned off by the overly opinionated, overly critical, divisive nature of the content recently.
We can all agree that bikes, in almost all forms are friggin rad. That rumours, and spy shots of some beautifully CNC'd bit of bike jewellery is friggin rad. That incredibly detailed info about suspension performance, tech bits, and tire compounds is friggin rad.
But can we agree that opinionated views on Sram or Shimano brakes (which is best and why) based on nothing but personal preference is out of place here? That divisive comments about e-bikes that dont serve anyones interest are out of place (not an e-biker, but they look like a cool toy). That snakry comments about suspension setup can be had beneath your breath, at your keyboard. Can we agree that "analog" is redundant, when we can simply refer to e-bikes, as e-bikes.
If any of my comments were shitty to anyone, my bad man, I'll do better.
Like if our comment isnt a rumour, innovation, helpful info, or to hype up cool shit, we simply keep it to ourselves......maybe I just need a break....
Agree with all your points, but disappointed that you left electronic shifting off the list of hot topics. Sounds like we need to fight about that some more...
The vitalmtb forum getting ready to argue about electronic shifting, me included
I'd like to bring your attention to the Red site where 2 guys are having a 70+ post argument over the specification (or lack of therein) of mineral oil........we have a long way to go.
You make some good points but this is also very get off my lawn.