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Thank you, I shall consider it Confirmed !
Called it.
Seems obvious now doesn't it?
Yep, you did. I'm a little surprised and it probably ends up making the Ripley a little heavier than it otherwise would be (I'm still getting one), but it makes a ton of sense as well.
It makes a ton of sense from a manufacturers point of view. From a consumer standpoint less so. The compromises of using a shared frame may be small but they are there. If you were designing with a clean sheet I'm not sure you'd have a longer reach and steeper SA on the shorter travel version.
The whole we didn't see the point of proportional rear centres but we went to all the trouble of changing it anyway by a tiny amount is odd.
But we did vary the BB height between low-ish(36mm) and incredibly low(48mm!!-tbh I don't of any similar bike with that much drop). That is pretty huge and will have a big effect on handling.And the reason is........consistant roll over angle? Really?
Just some odd things.
Nice looking though.
I'm anti size specific chainstays as I see it as increasing cost for the vast majority of riders (on M and L) for the freakishly short and freakishly tall people out there. I prefer how YT does it where there's one size, say 440mm for S, M, L and then 450mm for XL and XXL. Achieves a balanced bike feel and balanced manufacturing cost/cost-benefit to the average consumer who rides a M or a L.
it It's annoying to see "they share the same front triangle" bandied about and prices still increase this much. I had a Ripmo V1 frame for $3k then an AF for $1.8K and the V3 frames are now $3.7K. That's 23% and my pay surely didn't go up 23% in the past few years. Not to use YT again, but I'm pretty sure they share a front triangle between the Decoy MX and Decoy 29 but DON'T shove that fact in your face and instead let their much lower prices do the talking. Cheapest Decoy MX was $5K when it came out in 2018 and it remains $5K to this day (on sale for $4K rn but MSRP is still $5K)
I don’t want to derail and have looked online… but wonder if their stated CS length is the longer position and you can swap to a shorter setting. Bummer if so, bc it woulda been awesome if there was a neutral setting (listed as stock length on geo chart).
Can we move on from whether we like chainstays or not now please
Look here’s Kris Kyle on the new Status
Rough specs from a site that might've put them up too soon:
The Specialized Status 170 '24 is a mullet-wheeled, long-travel mountain bike that delivers impressive performance without breaking the bank. Whether you’re charging down technical descents or hitting the bike park, this gravity sled has you covered. Let’s dive into the details:
Frame and Build Kit:
The frame is constructed from Specialized’s M5 alloy tubing, ensuring durability and strength.
Neat internal cable routing keeps things tidy, and the chain stays feature chain slap protection.
The satin grey paint and minimal graphics give it an understated look.
Available in only one build spec, the Status prioritizes function over flashy aesthetics.
The suspension platform utilizes Specialized’s proven 4-bar Horst link with a yoke driving the shock.
A flip chip at the yoke end allows you to adjust the head angle (between 63.2° and 63.7°) and BB drop (-8.5mm to -17.5mm).
Frame sizes range from S1 to S5, with reach spanning 417mm to 512mm.
Geometry is long, slack, and low, with ultra-short 426mm chain stays.
Componentry:
Fox Float 36 Rhythm GRIP 160mm fork handles front suspension.
The rear suspension features a DPX2 Performance shock.
SRAM NX Eagle 12-speed drivetrain ensures smooth shifting.
SRAM Code R brakes provide reliable stopping power.
The X-Fusion Manic dropper seatpost offers 170mm of travel.
The rest of the build consists of Specialized’s own brand components.
Note: The Butcher Grid tires could use improvement—thin sidewalls and a hard compound make them less ideal for wet conditions.
Value Proposition:
The Status 170 '24 delivers a lot of bang for your buck, especially when compared to other big-brand bikes.
With its capable suspension, solid component spec, and aggressive geometry, it’s a hard-charging enduro/park bike.
For those who want a gravity-focused ride that won’t empty their wallets, the Specialized Status 170 '24 is a compelling option. Get ready to shred!
High roller 3?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9hfdpAiu-x/?igsh=MW4yNXFobm81N3ljaw==
That sounds like the old one tbh…
don’t think they’ll spec it with a dpx2 unless they dug deep in the Fox discount bin, and geo sounds exactly the same
The legendary Maxxis Ikon finally refreshed and quietly released in 2.4WT. Appears to be slightly lighter than 2.35. Must be a front only because I have never seen a max psi rating this low of 25PSI.
Believe that's an error in the specs. For the XC stuff, the tire will measure 2.40 @ 25 PSI on a 30mm internal rim.
Also, you would be surprised how many people think the MAX pressure rating means RECOMMENDED pressure.
I'm just glad for the return of 24" tires! Long Live the Bighit!
(joke)
Think of how short the chainstay could be with a 24" wheel! It will handle great/terrible!
If they go above $3000 for that spec it'll be a heinous cash grab.
I'm relieved it's suitable for riding dams.....
I promise this is tech related!
The cost savings from constant chainstay lengths across sizes is because brands can reuse the rear triangle(s). HOWEVER, Forbidden (I believe the first to do this) accomplishes both by simply moving the main pivot location in the front triangle back for larger sizes. Each size needs a different front triangle anyways, so this is a slick solution.
Another solution is adjustable dropouts or pivots (like S does). This is probably a tad more expensive than above from the extra complication of a flip chip or whatever, and it will alter the suspension kinematics, primarily by increasing rear travel & raising the leverage ratio in the "long" position.
Related to the new Ibis sharing triangles across not just sizes but models, the downside is compliance tuning. Its easy to make the front triangle stiffer for larger sizes, but then your shared rear triangle is probably going to be too stiff in the smaller sizes and too complaint in the larger sizes. This is worse for sharing the main triangle across models. It has to be overbuild for the shorter travel bike, and that bike will be way stiff and heavier than it needs to be. Since geometry evolution has pretty much settled down, and given what WC riders are experimenting with now at Commencal & Hart on his GT, I think tuned compliance is the next innovation in mountain bikes (Whats old is new again; I'm aware that Cedric Gracia was experimenting with detuned spokes, cut fork crowns, etc a dozen years ago)
A bit after the 7 minute mark stuff on the new status starts,
170 coil rear + 200mm boxxer version
shorter travel (140?) 27.5/26 version
Stumpys mudguard has turned up, downtube protector, not sure what all the stuff is down the non driveside. External routing points?
Also saw this over on instagram, colourway matches that website that is listing the old spec for the 24 170 version
I know we are all supposed to be impressed with the new Stumpy, but man the new Status is a much better looker. Simple and clean. One of the best looking bikes I've seen in a while.
8:46 in the video, Is that silver status cracked at the front shock mount????
That is some shotty welding regardless and they want us to ride that in the park?
Is merida not making the new status? Be weird if they wernt.
the status DH has a 180mm boxxer, not 200, FYI. not sure why there's a friday embargo if the bike's out in the wild for everyone to see and talk about
They did this with the last one. They gave a bunch of tangentially MTB-related athlete influencer types (like skateboarders and BMX people) the status months before release but told everyone except them not to talk about it. Weird.
It doesn't look cracked to me, but it does look shoddy. Lines are great though, and the idea of a 27.5/26 inch mullet full suspension bike from a major company is pretty neat.
Norco's been doing size-specific rear centers using a single (or rather, a seat- and chain- ) SKU for over a decade now, FWIW. Since their Killer-B Sight and Range launched in fall 2012, if I recall. Now it tracks that Owen Pemberton did work there at the time...
Norco also shared 3 front triangles and Chainstays amongst 3 bikes. The Range, Sight & Fluid VLT's all shared the same front and rear triangle. Geometry and travel was altered via the shock yoke and fork height.
Amazingly, all bikes had a 462mm rear centre lol, was great for me on my XL Range, imagine been 5.0ft tall and having a CS longer than your reach on a size small. So much front end grip the tyre would dig to CHYNA!
It looks like they're using the aluminum Stumpjumper Evo chainstays. It has the same adjustment.
I see what you're getting at but long/short chainstay debate is a little ridiculous. The difference between a "short" chainstay at 435 and "long" at 465 is only 30mm or 6% of the entire chainstay's length. Menawhile, reach grows by over 100mm across most brands sizing and no one talks about its impact on front/rear weight distribution.
The head of development for Privateer was talking on the Blister Review podcast about how the first sample bike they got of their ebike was a small with 465 chainstays and how good it handled.
yep agreed, long CS allows higher stack too.
One of the great feelings of these modern geo bikes is feeling "in" the bike rather than "on" it. It's hard to explain, but when you have sufficient wheelbase, stack and low enough BB the feeling of confidence and control is fantastic. This may not be for everyone, and that's OK.
The older I get the more I realize people like different things, it's not that one is right or wrong, people just prefer apples to oranges so to speak.
sets $6k aside for both
I'll so gladly trade NX for Deore (*edit), +1 to the Status launch being way more exciting than the stumpy. Accessible 26" parts will be perfect for my Sunday rebuild too. Go big S!
New from Maxxis
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9hfdpAiu-x/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
High Roller
You can use the same mould but tune the layup. The cost impact is negligible compared to a whole new mould.