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analyze mode engage - lawlor slowmo with some sick g-outs and scrubs. bikes get smashed and buckled at the bottom of that fake rock garden before the stumps!Sections

 
 
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0:00 - Upper road gap

2:02 - Rock Garden

2:58 - Stump Section

4:56 - Scrub-a-thon

6:15 - Wallride

6:48 - Lower Steep Woods

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They just did an overview of Kolb's bike on the livestream and I noticed what looked like weight plates zip tied to to the bottom of...

They just did an overview of Kolb's bike on the livestream and I noticed what looked like weight plates zip tied to to the bottom of his BB shell, has anyone else noticed that before?

Jakub_G wrote:
It appears every now and then, typically at rough and long tracks like Fort William, atwill was running them this year, orange even produced dh frame...

It appears every now and then, typically at rough and long tracks like Fort William, atwill was running them this year, orange even produced dh frame with dedicated mounts for weight plates under bb. 

Yeah, I was referring to Kolb's bike specifically, afaik he's never used them before.

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The other site is reporting that Neko is experimenting with a steel front triangle again. The last interview I saw with him about the Cotic made...

The other site is reporting that Neko is experimenting with a steel front triangle again. The last interview I saw with him about the Cotic made one, he laughingly said, "ya that frame was comfortable, thats for sure" and in the context I think he was saying it was too flexy. This new one has different tubing sizes and lugs. Did he find a way to stiffen up steel, did he also break those epoxy frames and is sick of breaking/cracking triangles, or something else entirely?

Maybe a cost-savings?photo

No point in experimenting in frames at this point if the goal is cost savings.  Plus with the non adjustable headset I don’t think these frames...

No point in experimenting in frames at this point if the goal is cost savings.  Plus with the non adjustable headset I don’t think these frames are meant for the public.  Rather I think neko wants to make the best steel frame he can.  And if it benefits himself, or asa, or angel then it’s a big win.  If not he learned something which I think is as important to him as results.

In a podcast it almost sounded like Neko just couldn't get the idea of an improved steel frame out of his head so he made the changes he wanted (stiffer and lighter) for Version 2 of the steel front triangle. 

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Does a coil need less compression damping in the first 10% of its travel? As someone who's a big fan of higher LSC on coils this...

Does a coil need less compression damping in the first 10% of its travel? As someone who's a big fan of higher LSC on coils this sounds... terrible.

On a different note: there is wind there's some new wagon wheeled Ibises (Ibi?) on the way. 

Ripmo V3??

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Do these things, vibroacoustic three chamber air springs, make any sense for mountain biking? Active suspension and geometry change for all types of terrain!? And does anyone besides Bmc working on a fully automated mechanical/air dropper post solution?image-20240610090129-1

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dolface wrote:
They just did an overview of Kolb's bike on the livestream and I noticed what looked like weight plates zip tied to to the bottom of...

They just did an overview of Kolb's bike on the livestream and I noticed what looked like weight plates zip tied to to the bottom of his BB shell, has anyone else noticed that before?

Jakub_G wrote:
It appears every now and then, typically at rough and long tracks like Fort William, atwill was running them this year, orange even produced dh frame...

It appears every now and then, typically at rough and long tracks like Fort William, atwill was running them this year, orange even produced dh frame with dedicated mounts for weight plates under bb. 

dolface wrote:

Yeah, I was referring to Kolb's bike specifically, afaik he's never used them before.

I've seen these scuba diving weights added to the Atherton frames.  I've been running them on some frames that feel too light.  When adding the weight it feels a bit more planted and breaks away the suspension a little bit easier when unweighted.  

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sspomer wrote:
loic discusses his buttons a bit. for music?    

loic discusses his buttons a bit. for music?

 

 

one of those buttons is for tacos, but which one

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gmonkey1 wrote:
KHS new frame or rebranded?

KHS new frame or rebranded?

Looks like a Salsa Cassidy.. no? 

Dave Waugh wrote:
Nah linkage and down tube are totally different.

Nah linkage and down tube are totally different.

image-20240609061747-1

You're right. I ended up DMing one of their sponsored riders and they confirmed it's a new one on the way. About time too.

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sspomer wrote:
loic discusses his buttons a bit. for music?    

loic discusses his buttons a bit. for music?

 

 

jonkranked wrote:

one of those buttons is for tacos, but which one

They all are, just for different kinds (carne asada, al pastore, carnitas etc).

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dolface wrote:

They all are, just for different kinds (carne asada, al pastore, carnitas etc).

push-button-receive-bacon - Jer's Life

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Those buttons on Bruni’s bike are from Dakar Rally bikes. They use them for rollchart controls and other tasks either hardwired or BT in some cases. Dakar bikes are a nightmare of complexity with all the Nav required

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Not sure if this has been posted yet... next gen AXS Reverb?

Looks cosmetically similar to the leaked wireless Fox Transfer.

 

 

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Hopefully less complex means a smaller price tag.  I’d happily go remote to not have to deal with internal routing.  But at current prices I can just pay my lbs to deal with it for me and still come out way ahead.  😂 

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Hopefully less complex means a smaller price tag.  I’d happily go remote to not have to deal with internal routing.  But at current prices I can...

Hopefully less complex means a smaller price tag.  I’d happily go remote to not have to deal with internal routing.  But at current prices I can just pay my lbs to deal with it for me and still come out way ahead.  😂 

I'm hoping Bike Yoke's version breaks cover soon...

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chriskief wrote:
Not sure if this has been posted yet... next gen AXS Reverb? Looks cosmetically similar to the leaked wireless Fox Transfer.    

Not sure if this has been posted yet... next gen AXS Reverb?

Looks cosmetically similar to the leaked wireless Fox Transfer.

 

 

it's Sram, as per picture 3

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Hopefully less complex means a smaller price tag.  I’d happily go remote to not have to deal with internal routing.  But at current prices I can...

Hopefully less complex means a smaller price tag.  I’d happily go remote to not have to deal with internal routing.  But at current prices I can just pay my lbs to deal with it for me and still come out way ahead.  😂 

One thing that's nice about that SRAM seatpost patent is that it gives you a traditional two-bolt head.

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TEAMROBOT wrote:

One thing that's nice about that SRAM seatpost patent is that it gives you a traditional two-bolt head.

I really like the current AXS post head setup.  When I service my AXS seatposts, I know that when I put the saddle back on, they will be at exactly the same angle that they were at before I removed the saddle.

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Looks like a Salsa Cassidy.. no? 

Dave Waugh wrote:
Nah linkage and down tube are totally different.

Nah linkage and down tube are totally different.

image-20240609061747-1

You're right. I ended up DMing one of their sponsored riders and they confirmed it's a new one on the way. About time too.

I'm a bit late to the party, but it looks like a Sherpa Olympus : https://sherpabicycles.com/olympus/
And as far as i know, Sherpa only rebrands frames from Asia manufacturers...

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New Storia?

 

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sharpy212 wrote:
Was it reported earlier this year the Maxxis would be making the Minion DHR in 2.5… or did I imagine it? trying to search for info...

Was it reported earlier this year the Maxxis would be making the Minion DHR in 2.5… or did I imagine it? trying to search for info but can’t find anything

I've been checking, they are listed at Universal but not available yet, Exo+ and up. Nothing on the Maxxis site yet and no luck hunting for clues of a Short Roller 3. Obligatory this belongs in the tire specific thread...

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Carraig042 wrote:
New Storia?  

New Storia?

 

Looks like they're adopting a polymer ring that fits between the spring and collar, similar to what Push does? Hopefully that ring will fit on existing shocks, mine sometimes develops a creak from that interface after particularly muddy rides. Small and low cost detail that I think all coil shocks would benefit from.

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Dave Waugh wrote:
Nah linkage and down tube are totally different.

Nah linkage and down tube are totally different.

image-20240609061747-1

You're right. I ended up DMing one of their sponsored riders and they confirmed it's a new one on the way. About time too.

Voxran wrote:
I'm a bit late to the party, but it looks like a Sherpa Olympus : https://sherpabicycles.com/olympus/ And as far as i know, Sherpa only rebrands frames...

I'm a bit late to the party, but it looks like a Sherpa Olympus : https://sherpabicycles.com/olympus/
And as far as i know, Sherpa only rebrands frames from Asia manufacturers...

Looks like a Carbonda FM1003. I had one. It rode alright, but was (quite) a bit too soft off the top for me. Even as a chonky lad (~105kg at the time, less now), having to use a 650lb spring and still being slightly undersprung was annoying. Frame "feel" definitely prioritized compliance over stiffness, which I liked but those that want a really stiff frame probably wouldn't.

Sadly the linkage bearings died in a very short order though (as in, 3 or so moderate trail rides). There just wasn't any weather sealing on the inside of the links so one reasonably wet ride ended in a pretty sad (gritty, lightly binding) linkage bearings.

The FM936 I had prior was excellent though (seriously lively "downcountry" whippet), and the FM1001 was good too (135mm trail bike. Bit doughy uphill but heaps of fun on descents to the point you'd take it above it travel-bracket pay-grade pretty quickly). FM1001 was ridiculous fun when overforked and mulleted too. Evil

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In moto, the primary reason is the offset change in the clamps. You are right, the floating bushing is marginally free'd up but the selling point...

In moto, the primary reason is the offset change in the clamps. You are right, the floating bushing is marginally free'd up but the selling point is the offset adjustment which makes a noticeable difference. For MTB, I'm struggling to find anything other than bling and lighter than a conventional clamp perhaps.

The split clamp could let them run a lower torque on each bolt. Maybe this gives a different feel?   Could have been something to just...

The split clamp could let them run a lower torque on each bolt. Maybe this gives a different feel?  

Could have been something to just test and try, maybe no advantage or disadvantage at this point.

The stock Ohlins air shaft is a sealed unit that the air piston slides in, doesn’t touch the stanctions. Could Loic be on a different air spring, possibly?

Rumor I heard is Loic running a coil, along with rock shox internals paired with top caps that are Ohlins in appearance only. 

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rustle wrote:

Rumor I heard is Loic running a coil, along with rock shox internals paired with top caps that are Ohlins in appearance only. 

Is someone pulling your leg or are you pulling ours?

Edit: Not a lot surprises me any more, but RS internals?  That seems pretty out there, especially considering the general praise for Öhlins's forks.  Which internals specifically, though?

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Seems unlikely (they would likely be able to whip up a custom tune with whatever they would want given the level of support offered to the Specialized team), but on the other hand years ago MS Mondraker did run a Fox damper in a Marzocchi fork on Brooks bike (well before the acquisition, 26" days). The image was fairly quickly pulled from the Vital slideshow though.

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rustle wrote:

Rumor I heard is Loic running a coil, along with rock shox internals paired with top caps that are Ohlins in appearance only. 

boozed wrote:
Is someone pulling your leg or are you pulling ours? Edit: Not a lot surprises me any more, but RS internals?  That seems pretty out there...

Is someone pulling your leg or are you pulling ours?

Edit: Not a lot surprises me any more, but RS internals?  That seems pretty out there, especially considering the general praise for Öhlins's forks.  Which internals specifically, though?

It’s a rumor for sure…so there’s that. It came from a pretty knowledgeable source. Same weekend I heard the rumor, I personally saw the demo prototype (whatever it’s being called), so I know one of the protos had been around the area…I’m not sure who was riding it. 

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Carraig042 wrote:
New Storia?  

New Storia?

 

Yep, V4.

Blister podcast (Bikes & Big ideas) had an interview with EXT founder Franco Fratton in which they talked about the updates.

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6/11/2024 3:33am
rustle wrote:

Rumor I heard is Loic running a coil, along with rock shox internals paired with top caps that are Ohlins in appearance only. 

boozed wrote:
Is someone pulling your leg or are you pulling ours? Edit: Not a lot surprises me any more, but RS internals?  That seems pretty out there...

Is someone pulling your leg or are you pulling ours?

Edit: Not a lot surprises me any more, but RS internals?  That seems pretty out there, especially considering the general praise for Öhlins's forks.  Which internals specifically, though?

rustle wrote:
It’s a rumor for sure…so there’s that. It came from a pretty knowledgeable source. Same weekend I heard the rumor, I personally saw the demo prototype...

It’s a rumor for sure…so there’s that. It came from a pretty knowledgeable source. Same weekend I heard the rumor, I personally saw the demo prototype (whatever it’s being called), so I know one of the protos had been around the area…I’m not sure who was riding it. 

Last year at Snowshoe he was running air, not to say he couldn’t have changed. Or some type of hybrid system coil/air.

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