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5/16/2024 9:18am Edited Date/Time 5/16/2024 9:24am
bnsleit wrote:
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes...

Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes?

edit: wanting to try something different but similar with my next set, was looking at Contis but don't know much about Schwalbe

Very personal, but for me Maxxis, including specifically the Assegai, tend to puncture much faster than Schwalbe of equivalent weight. Most Maxxis DD's I have tried were dead in under a month on the rear (multiple snakebites or big tear), whereas a Schwalbe supertrail will probably last at least 3 months, and a supergravity will never die (talking sidewalls here, knobs will be long gone)

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5/16/2024 9:27am

Cool shots from PitBits video of AP’s V5 rear end. (3rd photo from IG). It’s interesting to me to see how soft potentially he’s trying to make his bike but then Greg wrapping his norco rear end in carbon.

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5/16/2024 9:41am Edited Date/Time 5/16/2024 9:43am

Wayy more lights and buttons on the Ohlins stuff than I imagined.

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5/16/2024 9:50am
Wayy more lights and buttons on the Ohlins stuff than I imagined.

Wayy more lights and buttons on the Ohlins stuff than I imagined.

image-20240516093613-1image-20240516093806-2

I just love how they've got the most one-off frame, a bunch of secret suspension stuff going on, and a clump of black electrical tape holding it all together Laughing I'm sure it's there just to hide what's beneath, but it sure does look hodgepodge 

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5/16/2024 10:06am
Cool shots from PitBits video of AP’s V5 rear end. (3rd photo from IG). It’s interesting to me to see how soft potentially he’s trying to...

Cool shots from PitBits video of AP’s V5 rear end. (3rd photo from IG). It’s interesting to me to see how soft potentially he’s trying to make his bike but then Greg wrapping his norco rear end in carbon.

Maybe he needs extra compliance to offset the extra rigidity from the Air Shock? Running a Float X2 instead of a DHX2 is what I can't wrap my head around.

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5/16/2024 10:10am Edited Date/Time 5/16/2024 10:26am
Evil96 wrote:
We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP

We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP20240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31509 220240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31511 2

bnsleit wrote:
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes...

Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes?

edit: wanting to try something different but similar with my next set, was looking at Contis but don't know much about Schwalbe

Schwalbe (and Contis too) are typically half the price of Maxxis, so there's that.

But the naming thing evades me - so it'll be "Albert Gravity in Super Gravity compound" etc

Which is probably on the same level of fail as with Conti's "Trail/Endurance" vs "Enduro/Soft" casings/compounds, totally not confusing

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5/16/2024 10:37am
Wayy more lights and buttons on the Ohlins stuff than I imagined.

Wayy more lights and buttons on the Ohlins stuff than I imagined.

image-20240516093613-1image-20240516093806-2

I just love how they've got the most one-off frame, a bunch of secret suspension stuff going on, and a clump of black electrical tape holding...

I just love how they've got the most one-off frame, a bunch of secret suspension stuff going on, and a clump of black electrical tape holding it all together Laughing I'm sure it's there just to hide what's beneath, but it sure does look hodgepodge 

Flight Attendant looks clean as compared to this.

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5/16/2024 12:08pm

I would love to see the difference in bar hight from Finn´s vs. Dak´s bike. Seems that they were completely the opposite. Finn´s bars are totally slammed and Dak´s bar is higher than Bob M. ever was. 

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5/16/2024 12:25pm
Evil96 wrote:
We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP

We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP20240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31509 220240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31511 2

bnsleit wrote:
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes...

Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes?

edit: wanting to try something different but similar with my next set, was looking at Contis but don't know much about Schwalbe

it's a Schwalbe, i like the chasing better, the ultrasoft rubber better ( plus it easily outlasts maxxgrip ) and they're cheaper

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5/16/2024 2:18pm Edited Date/Time 5/16/2024 3:40pm

Chris Canfield posted this on his story earlier today. The Vampire DH bike can be turned into a Single Crown, maybe? Similar to the One.2?

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5/16/2024 2:21pm
Evil96 wrote:
We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP

We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP20240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31509 220240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31511 2

bnsleit wrote:
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes...

Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes?

edit: wanting to try something different but similar with my next set, was looking at Contis but don't know much about Schwalbe

Evil96 wrote:

it's a Schwalbe, i like the chasing better, the ultrasoft rubber better ( plus it easily outlasts maxxgrip ) and they're cheaper

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Chris Canfield posted this on his story earlier today. The Vampire DH bike can be turned into a Single Crown, maybe? Similar to the One.2?

Chris Canfield posted this on his story earlier today. The Vampire DH bike can be turned into a Single Crown, maybe? Similar to the One.2?

I think it's one frame that can do both. It's gotta be relatively long travel, as a test rider has said they are running a 38 as the more "trail" oriented setup. I'm going to guess it's 170mm rear travel or more.

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5/16/2024 3:01pm

Plz point me in the direction of Schwalbes for half the price of Maxxis thanks in advance

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5/16/2024 3:04pm
Evil96 wrote:
We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP

We've got a name, ALBERT GRAVITY now i hope the release date is ASAP20240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31509 220240515 UCI DHEDR WC Poland SR31511 2

bnsleit wrote:
Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes...

Non-sarcastic question as an assegai user - what about the Albert Gravity seems better than the already-available assguy in all the different compounds, casings and sizes?

edit: wanting to try something different but similar with my next set, was looking at Contis but don't know much about Schwalbe

I tried out the Vee attack after reading the Vital review

Legit tire, only downside is that it seems to run a little thinner. Got it considerably cheaper than a Maxxis. 

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5/16/2024 8:31pm
Yoda wrote:
Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched...

Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched? The SM10 is supposed to be ECE 22.06 certified, would be great to be able to buy one helmet for mx and mtb. 

Having serious concussions in the past, I'm constantly trying to find the safest domes on the market and nobody is testing them to their full potential. 

I can pretty much guarantee that if you’re a mushy brain like me (easily get concussions) any helmet designed for motor sports will be too hard to effectively prevent concussions. The higher impact speeds the helmet is designed to prevent from smashing your skull open, the more likely it is to cause a concussion in a minor incident. 

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5/16/2024 8:59pm
owl-x wrote:

Plz point me in the direction of Schwalbes for half the price of Maxxis thanks in advance

Bikeinn.com for a lot of stuff that is usually 2x in US.

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5/16/2024 11:40pm
owl-x wrote:

Plz point me in the direction of Schwalbes for half the price of Maxxis thanks in advance

Bike discount usually has pretty great deals for schwalbes at the end of the year...

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Moat likely a new DH helmet based on the SM10 design.

JokullThor wrote:

Dak said it's just the current moto helmet

Yoda wrote:
Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched...

Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched? The SM10 is supposed to be ECE 22.06 certified, would be great to be able to buy one helmet for mx and mtb. 

Having serious concussions in the past, I'm constantly trying to find the safest domes on the market and nobody is testing them to their full potential. 

Maybe it’s a result of increased track speed on the World Cup circuit and the pros feeling like they need something different? It’s definitely interesting to see them all on it. 
Check out 6D for yourself if you’ve had previous concussion issues and safety is  your top priority for a helmet. 

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5/17/2024 8:26am
Chris Canfield posted this on his story earlier today. The Vampire DH bike can be turned into a Single Crown, maybe? Similar to the One.2?

Chris Canfield posted this on his story earlier today. The Vampire DH bike can be turned into a Single Crown, maybe? Similar to the One.2?

He said somewhere that’s it’s not a full blown DH frame.  It’s a “super enduro” frame that can be built with single or dual crown forks.  It has bottle mounts and routing for a dropper. 

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5/17/2024 9:20am Edited Date/Time 5/17/2024 9:21am

What if the buttons don't do anything but the engineers tell Loic and Finn they do?

"Okay big guy, you can choose between boost-blaster setting, super boost-blaster setting, or ultra boost-blaster setting. Now go fast!"

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if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since fort william? as seen in our pit bits video. "it may be too stiff, but we're going to try."

do they just scuff up the stays and vacuum bag the carbon/resin around it? pretty bonkers

 

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5/17/2024 10:21am
sspomer wrote:
if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since...

if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since fort william? as seen in our pit bits video. "it may be too stiff, but we're going to try."

do they just scuff up the stays and vacuum bag the carbon/resin around it? pretty bonkers

 

Where is Dave Camp at when you need him? Genuinely curious of this from the engineering standpoint, this is way above my paygrade. Interested and curious about this too Spomer

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@Simcik @Dave_Camp -  DC Special 2024 LOL

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TEAMROBOT wrote:
What if the buttons don't do anything but the engineers tell Loic and Finn they do? "Okay big guy, you can choose between boost-blaster setting, super...

What if the buttons don't do anything but the engineers tell Loic and Finn they do?

"Okay big guy, you can choose between boost-blaster setting, super boost-blaster setting, or ultra boost-blaster setting. Now go fast!"

I used to look after the rental bikes at a bike park. People used to blow the forks and shocks up all the time so I de-coupled the compression adjusters. They'd come back complaining about the bike and I'd turn the knobs a few clicks for them. They's come back next run raving about how much better it was now.

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5/17/2024 11:20am
sspomer wrote:
if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since...

if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since fort william? as seen in our pit bits video. "it may be too stiff, but we're going to try."

do they just scuff up the stays and vacuum bag the carbon/resin around it? pretty bonkers

 

@carlinojoevideo mentioned it in the post where he shared Amaury's Supreme, that's it.

Probably literally just bonded on, should work fine for a weekend or two. 

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5/17/2024 11:25am Edited Date/Time 5/17/2024 11:30am
sspomer wrote:
if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since...

if this has been discussed, sorry. i can delete. has anyone talked about greg's norco w/ the aluminum rear end stiffened with a carbon wrap since fort william? as seen in our pit bits video. "it may be too stiff, but we're going to try."

do they just scuff up the stays and vacuum bag the carbon/resin around it? pretty bonkers

 

Primoz wrote:
@carlinojoevideo mentioned it in the post where he shared Amaury's Supreme, that's it. Probably literally just bonded on, should work fine for a weekend or two. 

@carlinojoevideo mentioned it in the post where he shared Amaury's Supreme, that's it.

Probably literally just bonded on, should work fine for a weekend or two. 

It's an interesting topic; Amaury looking for more compliance/grip(?) and Minaar looking for additional stiffness? (Do we know GM is looking for stiffness or could the carbon wrap be for damping?)

Edit: Although didn't SC also add carbon wrapping to Greg's V10 a while back, so increasing stiffness seems likely..

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SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot less stiff in bending at the same section weight than a tube is. Therefore it might make sense for them to try out the carbon wrap. 

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Primoz wrote:
SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot...

SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot less stiff in bending at the same section weight than a tube is. Therefore it might make sense for them to try out the carbon wrap. 

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5/17/2024 12:05pm
Yoda wrote:
Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched...

Exactly, but why? Pinkerton is also supposed to move to the moto helmet... is it proven to be safer than the mtb helmets Astars just launched? The SM10 is supposed to be ECE 22.06 certified, would be great to be able to buy one helmet for mx and mtb. 

Having serious concussions in the past, I'm constantly trying to find the safest domes on the market and nobody is testing them to their full potential. 

I can pretty much guarantee that if you’re a mushy brain like me (easily get concussions) any helmet designed for motor sports will be too hard...

I can pretty much guarantee that if you’re a mushy brain like me (easily get concussions) any helmet designed for motor sports will be too hard to effectively prevent concussions. The higher impact speeds the helmet is designed to prevent from smashing your skull open, the more likely it is to cause a concussion in a minor incident. 

If I got two or more concussions within a year from anything, I wouldn't mountain bike anymore. They are far more dangerous than most realize

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Primoz wrote:
SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot...

SC did that as well yes. Is the Norco prototype still machined? That means it's an open section, not a tube, which means it's a lot less stiff in bending at the same section weight than a tube is. Therefore it might make sense for them to try out the carbon wrap. 

dolface wrote:

I know it was, the question is if it's still. By the looks of it it probably is. 

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