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chriskief
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Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

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4/30/2024 11:22am
slimshady wrote:

If that patent gets awarded someone must burn the patent office to the ground.

I am not familiar with patent filing, why would the patent being awarded to them be a bad thing? Limitation in development at other companies?

4/30/2024 11:35am

I am not familiar with patent filing, why would the patent being awarded to them be a bad thing? Limitation in development at other companies?

Patents have become a joke. Apple literally patented a "rectangle with rounded corners" and then sued Samsung for over a billion dollars. Also, remember when Knolly tried to sue Intense because the seat tube intersects the downtube at a reasonable angle, and even claimed that Intense engineers "examined" Knolly bikes to steal this tech (Knolly's patent is so absurd that 90% of all mountain bikes from all companies "violate" it)

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Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

Here we go again.....

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Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

Here we go again.....

Here we go again.....

I always thought the 05 boxxer world Cup was one of the best looking forks with the chrome stanchions. 

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Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

Here we go again.....

Here we go again.....

Getting DVO Emerald vibes from the green ones... LOL

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4/30/2024 12:31pm Edited Date/Time 4/30/2024 12:33pm
New fork just came in today well ahead of release, time to do some testing…

New fork just came in today well ahead of release, time to do some testing…

Raaaaaaaddd. I hear podium gold is at least 15% faster. 

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4/30/2024 1:02pm
Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

Well I guess that disproves my tinfoil hat theory that the factory Rockshox riders were running DLC coated stanchions.

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Simcik
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4/30/2024 1:04pm
Losifer wrote:

I believe this is the CBF3 that Chris has talked about for a while, and I think you're right about it being a pending patent.

 

Just posted by Chris, think he saw us chatting about it?!

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4/30/2024 1:29pm

A chrome finish, while they look cool, pretty much have to be on steel stanchions. I had a domain in 2010, with those steel & chrome stanchions, and it wasn't that much heavier than the alternative for 180mm single crown, and even shared the same damping as the lower model Totem (the alternative). I beat the crap out of those lowers, but the steel stanchions could take a solid hit without even a scratch. I wonder if its possible to do steel stanchions, but somehow lighter, now that its been a decade. 

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4/30/2024 1:33pm
Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

I thought she has been testing a high pivot Tues

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4/30/2024 1:47pm
Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??  

Looks like FOX wont be the only ones with gold on the front of bikes this year 👀 the return of Ti Nitrate??

 

I wonder if we will get graphics back on stanchions. Id like to see that more. Especially for riders who are winning on their products, seeing graphic designs inspired by them on the stanchion. Totally not exactly innovation/tech, but cool stuff none the less. 

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Can you post photo?

dknapton wrote:

Wow, I thought they would have made a bigger change. Looks like linkage and maybe thinner top tube. Could be changes in carbon layup. Interested to...

Wow, I thought they would have made a bigger change. Looks like linkage and maybe thinner top tube. Could be changes in carbon layup. Interested to see how Valli does on that bike!

Maybe some adjustment in the link, and integrated bumpers 

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4/30/2024 3:17pm

Man in 2008 I lusted after the Mongoose Khyber. 

4/30/2024 6:18pm Edited Date/Time 4/30/2024 6:19pm
 

Something seems a little different about this one...

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4/30/2024 6:19pm
piroloco wrote:

Has anyone else seen this fork before? Getting some BOS suspension vibes from the stickers. 

It’s on the RST website

AKA Really Shitty Technology

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4/30/2024 7:17pm
  Something seems a little different about this one...
 

Something seems a little different about this one...

 

Looks like the regular Stumpy Evo to me

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4/30/2024 9:02pm Edited Date/Time 4/30/2024 9:03pm

Charlie Murray did a bike check the other day and is on the current Stumpjumper Evo again for the upcoming season, albeit a speckled yellow frame.

Edited to add link: https://youtu.be/FK3Lj9z2fnc?si=42Eec67aS3XsQhFF

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krabo83
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don‘t know how much tech rumors this is, but vali höll isn‘t riding a known TLD halfshell in her latest stories on IG. maybe an upcoming model? but hasn‘t the typical TLD design cues (backfin)

 

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Jakub_G
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A chrome finish, while they look cool, pretty much have to be on steel stanchions. I had a domain in 2010, with those steel & chrome...

A chrome finish, while they look cool, pretty much have to be on steel stanchions. I had a domain in 2010, with those steel & chrome stanchions, and it wasn't that much heavier than the alternative for 180mm single crown, and even shared the same damping as the lower model Totem (the alternative). I beat the crap out of those lowers, but the steel stanchions could take a solid hit without even a scratch. I wonder if its possible to do steel stanchions, but somehow lighter, now that its been a decade. 

Chrome coating while durable has very bad frictional properties. Ok for shock shafts, not so much for the forks.

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Simcik
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krabo83 wrote:
don‘t know how much tech rumors this is, but vali höll isn‘t riding a known TLD halfshell in her latest stories on IG. maybe an upcoming...

don‘t know how much tech rumors this is, but vali höll isn‘t riding a known TLD halfshell in her latest stories on IG. maybe an upcoming model? but hasn‘t the typical TLD design cues (backfin)

 

More of a topic for the team rumors page, but I believe she is no longer on TLD. No longer listed on the athlete page on the website.

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krabo83
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More of a topic for the team rumors page, but I believe she is no longer on TLD. No longer listed on the athlete page on...

More of a topic for the team rumors page, but I believe she is no longer on TLD. No longer listed on the athlete page on the website.

hmm, weird than that she got a new custom painted D4 in january Huh

we will see what she‘s wearing in fort bill.

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HexonJuan
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Re: gold stanchions (or any other color for the matter). It likely has something to do with co's putting their own twist on Kashima coatings since that patent expired some time ago (7 years ago I think). The gold in Kash wasn't necessary but was used to provide a visual cue that something about the product was 'better' than normal hard ano on competitors' products. Separately, from my understanding TiNi coatings aren't ideal as the surface finish becomes too smooth/uniform, resulting in stiction. A small degree of surface porosity is required to hold a very light film of oil to decrease breakaway stiction, and TiNi does away with that. 

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softgoods tech. Fox SpeedSuit RS debuting at Fort William this week.

 

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TEAMROBOT wrote:
Good eye! And a steering damper, but I think that's been discussed here already. The shock looks really similar to a Super Deluxe, so I'll have...

Good eye! And a steering damper, but I think that's been discussed here already. The shock looks really similar to a Super Deluxe, so I'll have to defer to other tech nerds to confirm whether that's a new reservoir or just the old one with a new sticker, sans lockout lever.

My guess is the existing super deluxe shock body with a vivid piggyback bolted up. Would be a cool retrofittable feature for existing shocks if that's...

My guess is the existing super deluxe shock body with a vivid piggyback bolted up. Would be a cool retrofittable feature for existing shocks if that's the only difference. 

UfuS78 wrote:

I think maybe Rock Shox will release a Vivid Coil to replace the Super Deluxe DH 🤔

yeah, probablyfa2fa1

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