its like the red powermeter reloaded, obsolete when the chainring is worn
I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.
"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly worn and chain wear is waaay past 1%'
"oh ....I've only done 8k on it" (seemingly without ever cleaning it)
'and it's one piece with the outer ring and power meter.....but SRAM do a trade in service at 50% discount'
"oh that is a relief I thought it was going to be expensive!!"
'Well the original price is £800, so it's still £400 plus a chain and a cassette at £350 and labour'
It took about 35 minutes for them to calm down including threatening to call trading standards and the police.
About 6 months later they came back complaining about their brakes making a funny noise.......worn through the pads,the backing plate and into the pistons.
That was a few years ago now, I don't study mountain bikers physique year to year but a few off seasons in the gym will would...
That was a few years ago now, I don't study mountain bikers physique year to year but a few off seasons in the gym will would get him up there pretty easily
It *could* but he's on-record saying he was planning to drop 12kg for this season (no idea if he's done it tho...)
I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.
"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly...
I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.
"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly worn and chain wear is waaay past 1%'
"oh ....I've only done 8k on it" (seemingly without ever cleaning it)
'and it's one piece with the outer ring and power meter.....but SRAM do a trade in service at 50% discount'
"oh that is a relief I thought it was going to be expensive!!"
'Well the original price is £800, so it's still £400 plus a chain and a cassette at £350 and labour'
It took about 35 minutes for them to calm down including threatening to call trading standards and the police.
About 6 months later they came back complaining about their brakes making a funny noise.......worn through the pads,the backing plate and into the pistons.
even back when i was a shop mechanic in the mid 00s, dealing with triathletes was the absolute worst. i can't imagine how insufferable they are today.
I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.
"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly...
I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.
"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly worn and chain wear is waaay past 1%'
"oh ....I've only done 8k on it" (seemingly without ever cleaning it)
'and it's one piece with the outer ring and power meter.....but SRAM do a trade in service at 50% discount'
"oh that is a relief I thought it was going to be expensive!!"
'Well the original price is £800, so it's still £400 plus a chain and a cassette at £350 and labour'
It took about 35 minutes for them to calm down including threatening to call trading standards and the police.
About 6 months later they came back complaining about their brakes making a funny noise.......worn through the pads,the backing plate and into the pistons.
I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.
"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly...
I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.
"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly worn and chain wear is waaay past 1%'
"oh ....I've only done 8k on it" (seemingly without ever cleaning it)
'and it's one piece with the outer ring and power meter.....but SRAM do a trade in service at 50% discount'
"oh that is a relief I thought it was going to be expensive!!"
'Well the original price is £800, so it's still £400 plus a chain and a cassette at £350 and labour'
It took about 35 minutes for them to calm down including threatening to call trading standards and the police.
About 6 months later they came back complaining about their brakes making a funny noise.......worn through the pads,the backing plate and into the pistons.
I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.
"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly...
I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.
"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly worn and chain wear is waaay past 1%'
"oh ....I've only done 8k on it" (seemingly without ever cleaning it)
'and it's one piece with the outer ring and power meter.....but SRAM do a trade in service at 50% discount'
"oh that is a relief I thought it was going to be expensive!!"
'Well the original price is £800, so it's still £400 plus a chain and a cassette at £350 and labour'
It took about 35 minutes for them to calm down including threatening to call trading standards and the police.
About 6 months later they came back complaining about their brakes making a funny noise.......worn through the pads,the backing plate and into the pistons.
We had to introduce a "piss charge" of $100 for hosing the tri bikes down before the techs worked on them. IYKYK.
We had to introduce a "piss charge" of $100 for hosing the tri bikes down before the techs worked on them. IYKYK.
In one of the shops I worked at, in the customer notes on Ascend if it said “every second counts” that meant they pissed on their bike and any service performed had an additional $50 cleaning charge.
Muscle mass and height can attribute to weight too. I know a lot of riders over 200lbs that are super strong and I’d be surprised if...
Muscle mass and height can attribute to weight too. I know a lot of riders over 200lbs that are super strong and I’d be surprised if most elite DH or enduro riders over 6ft aren’t close to or over that.
I am 210 due to pizza, beer and cake less than gym time, but that’s not everyone.
How many World Cup riders are 200+, in your estimation? I’d say zero.
Similar to the moto world, the pros ride bigger, even if their weight doesn't match what they're riding. It's been pointed out before that guys like Goldstone, Rude, etc are running spring rates above their recommended weight. Same can be said for brakes. It's likely not a good example to use.
Interesting comments from Ed Haythornthwaite (Robot Bike Co founder and ex Atherton) over on PB about the S170.
The guy has some very good credentials, but its hard to decide whether to take the comments seriously or with a pinch of salt as they're from an obviously disgruntled ex member of the team.
Interesting comments from Ed Haythornthwaite (Robot Bike Co founder and ex Atherton) over on PB about the S170.
The guy has some very good credentials, but...
Interesting comments from Ed Haythornthwaite (Robot Bike Co founder and ex Atherton) over on PB about the S170.
The guy has some very good credentials, but its hard to decide whether to take the comments seriously or with a pinch of salt as they're from an obviously disgruntled ex member of the team.
Wouldn't be surprised if the novelty of bonded frames is a marketing/sales benefit over welding frames... A factor of standing out from the crowd and a possible justification for a higher price (thus possibly a higher margin).
Wouldn't be surprised if the novelty of bonded frames is a marketing/sales benefit over welding frames... A factor of standing out from the crowd and a...
Wouldn't be surprised if the novelty of bonded frames is a marketing/sales benefit over welding frames... A factor of standing out from the crowd and a possible justification for a higher price (thus possibly a higher margin).
Guys who are tech geniuses aren't always the best marketing guru.
I get why Atherton came out with the alloy/alloy bonded frames. It's on brand. Visual & design cues match what people expect from the brand.
Producing a welded bike would be just one more welded bike.
And we've seen Pivot not be able to translate the aesthetic of DW-Link bikes that was so popular with Iron Horse over to their alloy frames. I can't imagine an Atherton buyer getting even slightly stoked by "one more alloy frame".
They'd just put it next to an Ibis or Pivot and pick it apart.
Don't get it what the big deal with mentioning Pinkbike is... I feel the community and the vibe there is far from good, but is there a need to skirt around the name too? It's not like we're talking about Voldermort...
I've had that conversation with someone (triathlete) about a year after they launched the new RED.
"My gears are slipping"
'Your inner chainring is really badly worn and chain wear is waaay past 1%'
"oh ....I've only done 8k on it" (seemingly without ever cleaning it)
'and it's one piece with the outer ring and power meter.....but SRAM do a trade in service at 50% discount'
"oh that is a relief I thought it was going to be expensive!!"
'Well the original price is £800, so it's still £400 plus a chain and a cassette at £350 and labour'
It took about 35 minutes for them to calm down including threatening to call trading standards and the police.
About 6 months later they came back complaining about their brakes making a funny noise.......worn through the pads,the backing plate and into the pistons.
It *could* but he's on-record saying he was planning to drop 12kg for this season (no idea if he's done it tho...)
S.170.1 - £5,999
S.170.2 - £5,500
S.170.3 - £4,800
Up on the atherton site: https://www.athertonbikes.com/bike/s170-enduro.html
Frame only - £2,799
Not a personal attack but the fact that sram has us using the term “ecosystem” makes me wanna barf all over.
Ant BS newspeak makes my skin crawl. When people use it at me I have to squash the urge to stop them and ask what it means everytime.
Here it is in all its glory: https://www.vitalmtb.com/news/press-release/atherton-bikes-launches-fir…
even back when i was a shop mechanic in the mid 00s, dealing with triathletes was the absolute worst. i can't imagine how insufferable they are today.
New Lapierre definitely looking Spicy
Cannondale called, they want their Jekyll back....
Wait, Rocky Mountain going VPP?
We had to introduce a "piss charge" of $100 for hosing the tri bikes down before the techs worked on them. IYKYK.
Washing tri bikes before I would touch them was the role of the youngest kid in the shop.
pretty sure that constitutes child abuse
In one of the shops I worked at, in the customer notes on Ascend if it said “every second counts” that meant they pissed on their bike and any service performed had an additional $50 cleaning charge.
Nah...it was out there for everyone to see.
Haven't seen a media pic of it though. Maybe it wasn't that special after all.
that looks like some terrible dropper insertion length. Santas and Spesh Enduro have both lower mounted shocks by the looks of it
name checks out
Agreed. Plus it looks so derivative they might as well rename it the Hyde.
if you're reaching for insults & butthurt, you're gonna need to dig deeper.
Similar to the moto world, the pros ride bigger, even if their weight doesn't match what they're riding. It's been pointed out before that guys like Goldstone, Rude, etc are running spring rates above their recommended weight. Same can be said for brakes. It's likely not a good example to use.
Both of you…
Interesting comments from Ed Haythornthwaite (Robot Bike Co founder and ex Atherton) over on PB about the S170.
The guy has some very good credentials, but its hard to decide whether to take the comments seriously or with a pinch of salt as they're from an obviously disgruntled ex member of the team.
Edit:
Ty sethimus
too hard to take a screenshot ffs?
And the comments are? Copy paste or Screenshots please? I'm guessing they are in the comments under the release article?
how you do it right:
Wouldn't be surprised if the novelty of bonded frames is a marketing/sales benefit over welding frames... A factor of standing out from the crowd and a possible justification for a higher price (thus possibly a higher margin).
Guys who are tech geniuses aren't always the best marketing guru.
I get why Atherton came out with the alloy/alloy bonded frames. It's on brand. Visual & design cues match what people expect from the brand.
Producing a welded bike would be just one more welded bike.
And we've seen Pivot not be able to translate the aesthetic of DW-Link bikes that was so popular with Iron Horse over to their alloy frames. I can't imagine an Atherton buyer getting even slightly stoked by "one more alloy frame".
They'd just put it next to an Ibis or Pivot and pick it apart.
Sorry, thought I had.
Rushed post before I took my wife out for lunch. I'd sooner piss off a bunch a forum nerds than her.
Lets face it though I would've got in shit with someone for daring to mention "the other site".
Don't get it what the big deal with mentioning Pinkbike is... I feel the community and the vibe there is far from good, but is there a need to skirt around the name too? It's not like we're talking about Voldermort...