Is it just me or does the shaft on that DHX2 look larger diameter than standard? Could be perspective but I wouldn't be surprised if they...
Is it just me or does the shaft on that DHX2 look larger diameter than standard? Could be perspective but I wouldn't be surprised if they had chosen to go in a similar direction to EXT due to yoke and trunnion mount issues
if that red knob is rebound, the shaft needs to be thicker as there has to be a hole to move fluid through it.. if the rebound circuit is on the piggyback, you can have a solid shaft and dont need it as thick ? may be? I might be wrong.. anyhow, rebound there means this fox seems monotube then..
Is it just me or does the shaft on that DHX2 look larger diameter than standard? Could be perspective but I wouldn't be surprised if they...
Is it just me or does the shaft on that DHX2 look larger diameter than standard? Could be perspective but I wouldn't be surprised if they had chosen to go in a similar direction to EXT due to yoke and trunnion mount issues
if that red knob is rebound, the shaft needs to be thicker as there has to be a hole to move fluid through it.. if the...
if that red knob is rebound, the shaft needs to be thicker as there has to be a hole to move fluid through it.. if the rebound circuit is on the piggyback, you can have a solid shaft and dont need it as thick ? may be? I might be wrong.. anyhow, rebound there means this fox seems monotube then..
You are correct, single tube architecture on this one.
The berd and pi rope spokes have a “rest” period where they lose tension much more than normal metal spokes. This is hard to work around...
The berd and pi rope spokes have a “rest” period where they lose tension much more than normal metal spokes. This is hard to work around in a race weekend. There is a way around it by pre stretching them on a machine. Avancini has been racing them the last 2 seasons in XCO and XCM and his wheels are around 1200g!
Greg’s tire issues remind me of the 2005-10 era when Deemax rims were so stiff they would blow tires off or crack beads. I’m not sure if that’s exactly what’s going on with his setup, but the reserve DH are pretty stiff wheels.
Sam Hill running DT 5.1 XC race rims for race runs (not mavic but I couldn’t think of an example there) and the rims would be obliterated but the tires would stay attached.
I'm getting ready to build a set of wheels for my hardtail with BERD spokes and there are a lot of negatives for Pro DH racers and mechanics. As mentioned, they have a 24-hour rest period. You bring them up to tension, leave them in the truing stand for 24 hours, and then re-tension them. You also have to modify the hub's spoke flanges, you basically have to clean/deburr/open up the holes which makes them unusable for standard spokes after that. I can't see mechanics (or hub sponsors) wanting to take the time to Dremel out a bunch of perfectly good hubs. You can get hook-flange hubs made specifically for Berd spokes that don't require any modifications and make the lacing process a good bit faster. But only 2-3 companies make hook-flange hubs, I'm planning to run Onyx hook-flange hubs on my build.
On the topic of tires inserts and sidewalls. I just raced the Sunpeaks Enduro up here in Snow Mexico and I spent my practice day on Conti Enduro casings with inserts only to peal my front and rear tire off the rim in different situations and scrambled to throw conti DH casings on the bike the night before. I decide to go sans inserts to try and get as much out the tire and see how things felt.
Honestly I won't be surprised if we start seeing racers not run inserts in full DH casings more and more if the DH tire casing tech keeps getting better like what Conti seems to have done with their new stuff. The tires feel better without inserts and higher tire pressure to fend off pinch flats doesn't seem to be affecting traction like I'm used to in the past.
4-5 years ago the idea of DH casings on my all mountain/ Enduro weekend warrior rig would seem silly but now it seems like the kinda "set it and forget it" option... with the contis of course can't speak for the prototype maxxis of course.
So because this is a rumor mill aaaaaahhh rumour has it new maxxis stuff will be marketed as the tire that doesn't need an Insert and we see a big push in the market with other companies claiming the same thing.... oh and ISO rim bed standards being agreed upon by everyone. That'll be a game changer too.
On the topic of tires inserts and sidewalls. I just raced the Sunpeaks Enduro up here in Snow Mexico and I spent my practice day on...
On the topic of tires inserts and sidewalls. I just raced the Sunpeaks Enduro up here in Snow Mexico and I spent my practice day on Conti Enduro casings with inserts only to peal my front and rear tire off the rim in different situations and scrambled to throw conti DH casings on the bike the night before. I decide to go sans inserts to try and get as much out the tire and see how things felt.
Honestly I won't be surprised if we start seeing racers not run inserts in full DH casings more and more if the DH tire casing tech keeps getting better like what Conti seems to have done with their new stuff. The tires feel better without inserts and higher tire pressure to fend off pinch flats doesn't seem to be affecting traction like I'm used to in the past.
4-5 years ago the idea of DH casings on my all mountain/ Enduro weekend warrior rig would seem silly but now it seems like the kinda "set it and forget it" option... with the contis of course can't speak for the prototype maxxis of course.
So because this is a rumor mill aaaaaahhh rumour has it new maxxis stuff will be marketed as the tire that doesn't need an Insert and we see a big push in the market with other companies claiming the same thing.... oh and ISO rim bed standards being agreed upon by everyone. That'll be a game changer too.
Curious to know what inserts you were running as I have had the completely opposite experience, with cushcore helping to keep my tires ON the rim.
the round noodle style inserts do seem to allow the tire to roll off the rim, while the cushcore almost clamps it on.
On the topic of tires inserts and sidewalls. I just raced the Sunpeaks Enduro up here in Snow Mexico and I spent my practice day on...
On the topic of tires inserts and sidewalls. I just raced the Sunpeaks Enduro up here in Snow Mexico and I spent my practice day on Conti Enduro casings with inserts only to peal my front and rear tire off the rim in different situations and scrambled to throw conti DH casings on the bike the night before. I decide to go sans inserts to try and get as much out the tire and see how things felt.
Honestly I won't be surprised if we start seeing racers not run inserts in full DH casings more and more if the DH tire casing tech keeps getting better like what Conti seems to have done with their new stuff. The tires feel better without inserts and higher tire pressure to fend off pinch flats doesn't seem to be affecting traction like I'm used to in the past.
4-5 years ago the idea of DH casings on my all mountain/ Enduro weekend warrior rig would seem silly but now it seems like the kinda "set it and forget it" option... with the contis of course can't speak for the prototype maxxis of course.
So because this is a rumor mill aaaaaahhh rumour has it new maxxis stuff will be marketed as the tire that doesn't need an Insert and we see a big push in the market with other companies claiming the same thing.... oh and ISO rim bed standards being agreed upon by everyone. That'll be a game changer too.
Curious to know what inserts you were running as I have had the completely opposite experience, with cushcore helping to keep my tires ON the rim...
Curious to know what inserts you were running as I have had the completely opposite experience, with cushcore helping to keep my tires ON the rim.
the round noodle style inserts do seem to allow the tire to roll off the rim, while the cushcore almost clamps it on.
I just stick with Tannus as they have done their intended job of eating some very poor line choices and I dont blow my hands up doing tire swaps or trail side stuff with the Tannus insert like I do with cushcore. Aaaand they keep weight down compared to other options and that seems like a nice bonus when everything else to make your bike actually survive a season is just nickel and diming us on weight increases...
**Please God don't let this turn into a F*ing insert debate again**
But like I said the new conti DH stuff even in super soft didn't feel all that more shitty to pedal over the Enduro casings in soft compound with inserts so the ol saying of "keep it simple stupid" is rolling through with tire casing choices again for me and I'm into it.
I’ve been curious about something.. How come DH racers aren’t running the rope spokes?? Seems like they would help in the compliance department. Could it be...
I’ve been curious about something.. How come DH racers aren’t running the rope spokes?? Seems like they would help in the compliance department. Could it be that the teams don’t have a good understanding of them yet in regards to fine tuning or are they too fragile? I’m sure I’m missing the obvious not hopefully someone can enlighten me
Don't they take a lot longer to lace up than traditional spokes? Given how often wc mechanics have to lace wheels to begin with, any extra...
Don't they take a lot longer to lace up than traditional spokes? Given how often wc mechanics have to lace wheels to begin with, any extra time in that process is probably a non-starter.
On the topic of tires inserts and sidewalls. I just raced the Sunpeaks Enduro up here in Snow Mexico and I spent my practice day on...
On the topic of tires inserts and sidewalls. I just raced the Sunpeaks Enduro up here in Snow Mexico and I spent my practice day on Conti Enduro casings with inserts only to peal my front and rear tire off the rim in different situations and scrambled to throw conti DH casings on the bike the night before. I decide to go sans inserts to try and get as much out the tire and see how things felt.
Honestly I won't be surprised if we start seeing racers not run inserts in full DH casings more and more if the DH tire casing tech keeps getting better like what Conti seems to have done with their new stuff. The tires feel better without inserts and higher tire pressure to fend off pinch flats doesn't seem to be affecting traction like I'm used to in the past.
4-5 years ago the idea of DH casings on my all mountain/ Enduro weekend warrior rig would seem silly but now it seems like the kinda "set it and forget it" option... with the contis of course can't speak for the prototype maxxis of course.
So because this is a rumor mill aaaaaahhh rumour has it new maxxis stuff will be marketed as the tire that doesn't need an Insert and we see a big push in the market with other companies claiming the same thing.... oh and ISO rim bed standards being agreed upon by everyone. That'll be a game changer too.
Not a tech rumor, but I would say that inserts are pretty key with the conti's. I find they feel a bit pingy at higher pressures, and at lower pressures (sub 28psi out back) they seem to fold a lot even with inserts.
Also just gonna say that I think tire companies should test tires in Quebec/eastern US.
On the topic of tires inserts and sidewalls. I just raced the Sunpeaks Enduro up here in Snow Mexico and I spent my practice day on...
On the topic of tires inserts and sidewalls. I just raced the Sunpeaks Enduro up here in Snow Mexico and I spent my practice day on Conti Enduro casings with inserts only to peal my front and rear tire off the rim in different situations and scrambled to throw conti DH casings on the bike the night before. I decide to go sans inserts to try and get as much out the tire and see how things felt.
Honestly I won't be surprised if we start seeing racers not run inserts in full DH casings more and more if the DH tire casing tech keeps getting better like what Conti seems to have done with their new stuff. The tires feel better without inserts and higher tire pressure to fend off pinch flats doesn't seem to be affecting traction like I'm used to in the past.
4-5 years ago the idea of DH casings on my all mountain/ Enduro weekend warrior rig would seem silly but now it seems like the kinda "set it and forget it" option... with the contis of course can't speak for the prototype maxxis of course.
So because this is a rumor mill aaaaaahhh rumour has it new maxxis stuff will be marketed as the tire that doesn't need an Insert and we see a big push in the market with other companies claiming the same thing.... oh and ISO rim bed standards being agreed upon by everyone. That'll be a game changer too.
Not a tech rumor, but I would say that inserts are pretty key with the conti's. I find they feel a bit pingy at higher pressures...
Not a tech rumor, but I would say that inserts are pretty key with the conti's. I find they feel a bit pingy at higher pressures, and at lower pressures (sub 28psi out back) they seem to fold a lot even with inserts.
Also just gonna say that I think tire companies should test tires in Quebec/eastern US.
Interesting. I found I liked them a lot more with no inserts (previously ran tannus) and going up a couple psi front and rear (25 front, 28 rear). Paired with wa1 triads (nice thick rim bead that doesn’t snakebite tires) I haven’t managed to kill on and the ride feels great. The contis are an absolute Bitch to get on with cushcore in my experience too.
I wonder who gave them the name high roller 3 for that tire. Looks a lot closer to a shorty with assegai side knobs than it...
I wonder who gave them the name high roller 3 for that tire. Looks a lot closer to a shorty with assegai side knobs than it does to a high roller 2.
I think it was an excited tech editor that saw the 'spy shots' and decided to name the tire the High Roller 3. Don't think that's the name of it or the evolution line. It's so different it would be a marketing mistake for Maxxis to use the "High Roller' legacy name.
There was speculation somewhere in this thread (and/or the Team Rumors thread?) that Guerilla Gravity might fold. I have no insider information, but noticed that their Instagram page hasn't had a new post in 6+ weeks now. Maybe their summer intern went back to school or their social media manager quit. Still... kinda odd.
Not a tech rumor, but I would say that inserts are pretty key with the conti's. I find they feel a bit pingy at higher pressures...
Not a tech rumor, but I would say that inserts are pretty key with the conti's. I find they feel a bit pingy at higher pressures, and at lower pressures (sub 28psi out back) they seem to fold a lot even with inserts.
Also just gonna say that I think tire companies should test tires in Quebec/eastern US.
Could just have 'em test at Platty, Bromont & Massanutten exclusively.
"Made it down w/ 18psi under 200lb rider on flat pedals?"
"Yes sir"
"We're going into production!"
There was speculation somewhere in this thread (and/or the Team Rumors thread?) that Guerilla Gravity might fold. I have no insider information, but noticed that their...
There was speculation somewhere in this thread (and/or the Team Rumors thread?) that Guerilla Gravity might fold. I have no insider information, but noticed that their Instagram page hasn't had a new post in 6+ weeks now. Maybe their summer intern went back to school or their social media manager quit. Still... kinda odd.
I can confirm that Sept 1st was their last day of operation...
Definitely sad to see a rad US brand taken from us too soon.
There was speculation somewhere in this thread (and/or the Team Rumors thread?) that Guerilla Gravity might fold. I have no insider information, but noticed that their...
There was speculation somewhere in this thread (and/or the Team Rumors thread?) that Guerilla Gravity might fold. I have no insider information, but noticed that their Instagram page hasn't had a new post in 6+ weeks now. Maybe their summer intern went back to school or their social media manager quit. Still... kinda odd.
They did close. I would not be surprised if they are sold off to another company. But they did sell out of all their stock or a majority of it. Sad times.
There was speculation somewhere in this thread (and/or the Team Rumors thread?) that Guerilla Gravity might fold. I have no insider information, but noticed that their...
There was speculation somewhere in this thread (and/or the Team Rumors thread?) that Guerilla Gravity might fold. I have no insider information, but noticed that their Instagram page hasn't had a new post in 6+ weeks now. Maybe their summer intern went back to school or their social media manager quit. Still... kinda odd.
They did close. I would not be surprised if they are sold off to another company. But they did sell out of all their stock or...
They did close. I would not be surprised if they are sold off to another company. But they did sell out of all their stock or a majority of it. Sad times.
last i heard they were fulfilling any pending orders they could with available stock (for buyers that still wanted to), and that would be it. bummer for sure.
Looks like a prototype Mirror saddle as well. That shape doesn't look like either the Power or Romin Evo shapes they currently sell with the 3D printed Mirror construction.
I’ve been curious about something.. How come DH racers aren’t running the rope spokes?? Seems like they would help in the compliance department. Could it be...
I’ve been curious about something.. How come DH racers aren’t running the rope spokes?? Seems like they would help in the compliance department. Could it be that the teams don’t have a good understanding of them yet in regards to fine tuning or are they too fragile? I’m sure I’m missing the obvious not hopefully someone can enlighten me
I love my 3 sets of Berd spoked wheels and highly recommend them for many applications. That said, for my big hitting bike I choose to go with standard steel spokes for the rear.
Berd spokes tend to feel a fair bit looser at times and also seem to get a bit sacked out with use. And I'm no Pro.
Wouldn't have anything but Berds on my Trail/ XC bikes, but for a DH bike, I'd choose otherwise.
If I had to build a new AM/ Enduro wheel set not certain what I'd do. Probably Berds though.
if that red knob is rebound, the shaft needs to be thicker as there has to be a hole to move fluid through it.. if the rebound circuit is on the piggyback, you can have a solid shaft and dont need it as thick ? may be? I might be wrong.. anyhow, rebound there means this fox seems monotube then..
It’s just a dhx not dhx2
You are correct, single tube architecture on this one.
https://bikerumor.com/spotted-maxxis-high-roller-iii-makes-the-dh-rounds/
Thank you for your patience if this has been covered already, but the supposed new High Roller III looks awfully a lot like a shorty
I wonder who gave them the name high roller 3 for that tire. Looks a lot closer to a shorty with assegai side knobs than it does to a high roller 2.
I'm getting ready to build a set of wheels for my hardtail with BERD spokes and there are a lot of negatives for Pro DH racers and mechanics. As mentioned, they have a 24-hour rest period. You bring them up to tension, leave them in the truing stand for 24 hours, and then re-tension them. You also have to modify the hub's spoke flanges, you basically have to clean/deburr/open up the holes which makes them unusable for standard spokes after that. I can't see mechanics (or hub sponsors) wanting to take the time to Dremel out a bunch of perfectly good hubs. You can get hook-flange hubs made specifically for Berd spokes that don't require any modifications and make the lacing process a good bit faster. But only 2-3 companies make hook-flange hubs, I'm planning to run Onyx hook-flange hubs on my build.
On the topic of tires inserts and sidewalls. I just raced the Sunpeaks Enduro up here in Snow Mexico and I spent my practice day on Conti Enduro casings with inserts only to peal my front and rear tire off the rim in different situations and scrambled to throw conti DH casings on the bike the night before. I decide to go sans inserts to try and get as much out the tire and see how things felt.
Honestly I won't be surprised if we start seeing racers not run inserts in full DH casings more and more if the DH tire casing tech keeps getting better like what Conti seems to have done with their new stuff. The tires feel better without inserts and higher tire pressure to fend off pinch flats doesn't seem to be affecting traction like I'm used to in the past.
4-5 years ago the idea of DH casings on my all mountain/ Enduro weekend warrior rig would seem silly but now it seems like the kinda "set it and forget it" option... with the contis of course can't speak for the prototype maxxis of course.
So because this is a rumor mill aaaaaahhh rumour has it new maxxis stuff will be marketed as the tire that doesn't need an Insert and we see a big push in the market with other companies claiming the same thing.... oh and ISO rim bed standards being agreed upon by everyone. That'll be a game changer too.
Curious to know what inserts you were running as I have had the completely opposite experience, with cushcore helping to keep my tires ON the rim.
the round noodle style inserts do seem to allow the tire to roll off the rim, while the cushcore almost clamps it on.
I just stick with Tannus as they have done their intended job of eating some very poor line choices and I dont blow my hands up doing tire swaps or trail side stuff with the Tannus insert like I do with cushcore. Aaaand they keep weight down compared to other options and that seems like a nice bonus when everything else to make your bike actually survive a season is just nickel and diming us on weight increases...
**Please God don't let this turn into a F*ing insert debate again**
But like I said the new conti DH stuff even in super soft didn't feel all that more shitty to pedal over the Enduro casings in soft compound with inserts so the ol saying of "keep it simple stupid" is rolling through with tire casing choices again for me and I'm into it.
several days per wheel
Not a tech rumor, but I would say that inserts are pretty key with the conti's. I find they feel a bit pingy at higher pressures, and at lower pressures (sub 28psi out back) they seem to fold a lot even with inserts.
Also just gonna say that I think tire companies should test tires in Quebec/eastern US.
Interesting. I found I liked them a lot more with no inserts (previously ran tannus) and going up a couple psi front and rear (25 front, 28 rear). Paired with wa1 triads (nice thick rim bead that doesn’t snakebite tires) I haven’t managed to kill on and the ride feels great. The contis are an absolute Bitch to get on with cushcore in my experience too.
I think it was an excited tech editor that saw the 'spy shots' and decided to name the tire the High Roller 3. Don't think that's the name of it or the evolution line. It's so different it would be a marketing mistake for Maxxis to use the "High Roller' legacy name.
There was speculation somewhere in this thread (and/or the Team Rumors thread?) that Guerilla Gravity might fold. I have no insider information, but noticed that their Instagram page hasn't had a new post in 6+ weeks now. Maybe their summer intern went back to school or their social media manager quit. Still... kinda odd.
Could just have 'em test at Platty, Bromont & Massanutten exclusively.
"Made it down w/ 18psi under 200lb rider on flat pedals?"
"Yes sir"
"We're going into production!"
I can confirm that Sept 1st was their last day of operation...
Definitely sad to see a rad US brand taken from us too soon.
They did close. I would not be surprised if they are sold off to another company. But they did sell out of all their stock or a majority of it. Sad times.
last i heard they were fulfilling any pending orders they could with available stock (for buyers that still wanted to), and that would be it. bummer for sure.
prototype demo without clothing! #allhailLawlor
I bet someone isn't super happy with someone else.
Horst dropout version of the Ancilotti pull link.
Watch out Lawlor, the big S are probably on the phone to their lawyers as we speak.
For sure! Black helicopter w/ a shadow 'S' on it incoming.
Finn’s mechanic right now:
Looks like a prototype Mirror saddle as well. That shape doesn't look like either the Power or Romin Evo shapes they currently sell with the 3D printed Mirror construction.
Someone get Lawlor a security guard
Too much victory water at Snowshoe?
That's what Bruni clipped, that protruding lower link! ?
Not the big reveal from Specialized marketing I was expecting.
I love my 3 sets of Berd spoked wheels and highly recommend them for many applications. That said, for my big hitting bike I choose to go with standard steel spokes for the rear.
Berd spokes tend to feel a fair bit looser at times and also seem to get a bit sacked out with use. And I'm no Pro.
Wouldn't have anything but Berds on my Trail/ XC bikes, but for a DH bike, I'd choose otherwise.
If I had to build a new AM/ Enduro wheel set not certain what I'd do. Probably Berds though.