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jonkranked Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

10/14/2025 4:25pm
based on their website i'm going to assume money laundering. side note: the website is every horrible website element put into one.
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FerrousBueller Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

10/14/2025 4:20pm
Check out this deal man. They are definitely not ok https://www.eriksbikeshop.com/products/haro-daley-alloy-ltd-1-full-susp…
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Mwood Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

10/14/2025 4:05pm
Also saw this last night: https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2025/10/08/peopleforbikes… Didn't have a bike industry pro-tariff stance in the cards. Protectionism at it's best- save one company for the industry to crater.
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Buckets Up Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

10/14/2025 3:52pm
I think the problem with a bike park is that you need to open/start with enough fun trails for every ability to keep customers coming back from the get go. If a park is established, it has to be way more cost-effective than winter operations. You have no grooming costs, no snowmaking, significantly less operational lifts, limited lessons/coaching compared to winter, less patrollers, no snow safety costs (avalanche mitigation), etc, etc. The problem is that most American resorts/hills only dip their toes in. They build a couple trails, riders come try them for a day, then don’t need to come...
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Losifer Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

10/13/2025 8:56am
Hey, we don’t kink shame here (pre-gen 6 Knolly rider here)
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Jotegr Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

10/1/2025 4:37pm
Do you think lifetime warranty killed that company? My assumption would be no, unless they were just monumentally stupid and didn't do sufficient forecasting to properly bake the cost of running the program into the cost of the rim. Personally, there's two way more obvious things to point at: 1. general bike market conditions 2. the difficulty of running an American manufacturing company in the current tariff/regulatory bizzarro world going on down there. Edit: another company falling before the deadline!
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JVP Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

10/1/2025 4:37pm
Lifetime warranties are a horrible idea even if people like me loooooove them. I ride stuff for a long time, and anything (not just rims) that's not a total boat anchor will eventually break. I've literally never had a rear rim that I didn't eventually ruin, and I'm fine with that. I don't want an insanely expensive 700g carbon rim that will actually last a lifetime and not tank the company with warranty claims. I'd rather run an EX 511 equivalent rear at 550g-ish and I'll lace a new one over when needed. Sometimes pointy rocks are in landings -...
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piratetrails Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

10/1/2025 4:36pm
Can someone explain how the business model for carbon wheels ever worked? I buy a wheelset for $1.5k and it has a lifetime warranty. I swap them from bike to bike indefinitely because I've invested a good chunk of money in the hoops. I am never a repeat customer unless I take up the n+1 bike life, or go mullet /full 29 (feel like most people know which rear wheel size want on this front at this moment in history) Said, carbon wheels company now has to spend tons on marketing to try and court new customers for almost every...
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joshmtb Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

9/29/2025 1:44pm
Whilst the pivot might have a few more broken frames than others, there's no way that impact would cause that on an in tact frame. Either it was previously damaged or defective. No way it would a survive a sin le run at a world cup or hardline if it was that weak!
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anotherbikerguy Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

9/29/2025 1:36pm
Now that's a proper spy shot.
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GRM50 Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

9/29/2025 1:36pm
Not sure if this has been posted but got a picture of the bottom of the Brosnan's Boxxer at the US Open. I assume this is what's on the Zebb too.
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Brian_Peterson Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

9/29/2025 1:34pm
Gravel bikes and endurance road bikes are what I used to recommend to a lot of people. Although, now both of those fall into what some are calling the "all-road" bike as gravel bikes are becoming more like early 29er hardtails.. IMO, these all-road bikes are perfect for people who aren't fully committed roadies and want a bike that gives more options on where they can ride. Perfect for dealing with crap roads and even worse drivers where I live.. You mentioned previously working at Specialized.. It was a trip to Morgan Hill for SBCU that let me try a...
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saskskier Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

9/29/2025 1:30pm
I don't disagree, however have found that if I want to be comfortable on my HT, I need to be much more active on the bike (more intentional with line choice, unweighting/raising the front/rear wheels over stuff, etc). "Plowing" either downhill or up is not a great time. Turns out I can't ride my 130mm, SS steel hardtail in the same manner as my RAAW Madonna. Lol
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seanfisseli Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

9/29/2025 1:25pm
I feel you, but some hardtails are legitimately comfortable (when reframed as gravel bikes…) speci Fuse is stiff and sucks, epic hardtail is compliant and feels so good to ride. im telling you guys, the majority of the gravel segment has never tried a mtb (thinks they don’t need one, overbiked, etc.) or doesn’t even need a “gravel bike” (just needs a road bike with 38s and lower gearing.) the gravel category exists because people think road bikes can’t have 45c tires and also that mountain bikes are silly and unnecessary for singletrack. What we see in practice though is...
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dolface Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

9/29/2025 1:24pm
No one needs any of these bikes, but if they make riding more interesting or fun I'm all for it. The Checkout isn't for me (at least right now) but for folks who are doing really long bikepacking trips/races it's probably awesome. It's noteworthy to me that a lot of the objections being posted mirror those from when suspension was first introduced to MTBs...
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Goupil Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

9/29/2025 1:22pm
Gravel bikes has become too wide of a category of bikes, what we need is subcategories! The downgravel, the enduravel, the graero...
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Finkill Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

9/29/2025 1:16pm
There is a podcast on Escape Collective with the designers, they discussed it. The integrated shock doesn't work on a road type frame with a high top tube and big angle between the seat stays and top tube, the TT and shock need to be relatively parallel to the seat stays. So the integrated shock design works on a low standover MTB, not on a gravel frame.
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dwhere Liked a reply to forum topic MTB Tech Rumors and Innovation

9/29/2025 1:16pm
Not gonna lie (and this comes from a trek hater). That thing is sick.
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helmuthhollerer Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

9/29/2025 12:17pm
Also not defending Flossmann, but just would like to add that the Kona Founders did the exact same thing a year or two ago.
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bulletbass man Liked a reply to forum topic The Bikeconomics (Mega)Thread

9/29/2025 12:10pm
Having a hard time understanding how the ceo of an insolvent company is buying said company and plans to finance it. Industry is tough right now. The economy for most people in the world is getting pretty rough. And yt has absolutely burned it’s credibility. Hard for me to fathom how this works out but perhaps you all have a diffirent opinion. Sucks for everyone who got laid off. Was really hoping someone would step in, show management the door, and get things going right. But I imagine that’s a tough sell considering the state of the industry and the...
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