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Brakes are challenging. There's quite a bit of engineering involved in sealing them, and making sure they stay sealed properly, as you can have a rim crack, but break failure is totally unacceptable. So given that you need to have a 0% failure rate, it makes it quite a serious undertaking. Rims are relatively simple, it's just that nobody has an autoclave at home large enough to bake one. But the actual design and layup isn't very complicated.

You’re missing the point. It’s only knockoff if it comes from China. Anyone else can pull this shit and no-one would bat an eyelid. No. One. No I’m not going to buy one of their ders, but it is hilarious how publicly quick to offence some people get. Genuinely looking forward to see how it fares in the review though. Curious to why Madrone and Hopp are allowed to get away with what they’re doing!

This. I've seen teams underestimate the effort required for an electronic product a few times. My conclusion of this is: it's just a complicated way to solve the problem, which doesn't make it too favorable in my book. And IF you put so much work into a solution I'd rather see it go towards simplicity / durability / serviceability / smoothnes / etc. of a mechanical solution. Guess I'm just an old nostalgic.

BY burned by Sram? What does this relate to? FWIW, when we were discussing how simple it is to make a wirless conversion, it's not THAT easy. Easy in principle as you need some kind of motor/actuator pushing the interface of the post, some electronics to do the communication, a remote and some way for the two to communicate. What that means is you need to handle the mechanics of the actuator. A motor, some geartrain, something to press the thing in the post. You need a battery and some way to charge it. Some control electronics to talk to...

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Yeah unsurprisingly when you outsource all of your technology production for 30 or 40 years, those people get really really good at it...... especially when it comes to manufacturing something to a price. I'm sure a lot of western companies could build a great competitor to DJI but it might cost about three times as much! Are people willing to pay that much for something just because it isn't Chinese? We also forget that products made in China aren't sometimes bad because of where they are made, they are bad because they were made to a spec and a price...

I have created a spreadsheet with rumors on it in an attempt to calculate the points that each team will have going into 2025 and which teams will be world series teams (since this year the rankings are based on rider points). I do not have better info than anyone else, I am simply reading the forums. Much of the info is out of date and incomplete so if anyone would like, feel free to edit to make this more complete and accurate. There are two tabs, where the second one shows the ranking. Read the red notes for info...

US Department of Defense classify DJI as a "Chinese Military Company". I'd imagine that alone will be plenty to ward off many of the bigger, more conservative brands. Especially as we approach another 4yrs of trump tariffs.

Sounds like all of the downsides of cables plus all of the downsides of wireless to me. Annoying to install, annoying to remove, needs to be charged, it's expensive and heavy, and there's more things to go wrong.

Problem is, the Radical is not labelled as a park bike but as an enduro.... And still, even on bikepark days i'm kinda fond of, well, not dying of thirst in the middle of a 1200d- run, so yeah: two screws less is a deal breaker.

Let the legal systems sort it out. If it's information that is not meant to be public yet, it won't be. To respect her privacy as well as allow legal systems to follow their course we shouldn't dig. Digging for team rumors and staff/personnel changes are one thing, this is something else. I would be willing to bet we'll know the name at some point anyways.

Oh, and then they can do a Backcountry edition and call it "Nauht-E By Nature". I'll see myself out.

It might be me but if I'm buying a steel bike (for the feel, longevity etc.) I'd want the whole thing to be steel.

The real question is, what about mechanical options?

Hi there, Cam here from Outlier MTB. First and foremost, thank you all for your positive comments and support during our recent launch! I see that some of you have been discussing the actual pedal drop on this forum. There have been some misunderstandings that we would like to take some time to clear up. Our Pendulum pedal as it was released has 6mm of drop measured from the centre of the axle to the top of the platform. Most flat pedal platforms are somewhere between 5-7mm above the axle so our pedals are essentially ~12mm bellow your average pedal...

instead of measuring forces, why not displacement at the pedal spindle (rotational/angular distance)? that's essentially the riders contact point with the system.

Watched this yesterday and thought it was pretty well done. When I first saw these, I thought they were shite. Now I really want to try them.

"Center of the axle" is indeed what it says on their site. I think "top" of axle may be more accurate with the given numbers? Regardless, it lowers your pedal quite a bit. Between that and the big ol' openness under foot, I'd love to try them.

Some our local rippers / engineers came up with a very unique "axle-less" pedal. Machined here in Calgary, Alberta and testing in the rocky mountains. They use a big ol 6902 bearing for spinny duties. The pendulum (drop pedal) is super interesting. Void pedals (traditional flat) Pendulum pedals (12mm drop) "Our platform sits 12mm below the center of the axle. Most pedals place the platform 5mm or more above the center of the axle. This effectively lowers the rider's center of mass 17mm or more offering a significant stability, and control. During sudden decelerations, the pedal acts as a pendulum...