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I know I’m in the minority here but I’d take a slightly cheap feeling shifter that feels like a shifter over one that feels like adjusting the volume on a cheap bluetooth speaker any day.

I know I need to take this to the Geo chat... haha...So after this, id be happy to discuss over there to keep this for its intentions. but I think with higher stacks and longer chainstays, the front end doesn't need to be as long and the therefor the wheelbase can start to shorten back up. Calculating the rider triangle and sizing, mathematically, we can fit similarly but just change the hinge at the hips and body positioning. Bringing the leverage back higher with the stack, you gain back some 'agility' and being able to ride 'active'. You can still...

yep absolutely. we might be at another rung in the ladder of geo evolution here. a really long wheelbase and high stack feels amazing for plowing straightline chunk, sleeps etc. but you loose some agility and an active riding style over the front is harder (i really enjoy loading up the front wheel and doing sharp cutty turns). But also, we're used to "last gen" geo concepts (short wheelbase low stack) and need to learn new riding styles. it’s dependent on terrain and rider height/body proportions too of course.

Considering your bike has a ratio of 1.93 which is quite very very high, that makes sense. You need to be way lower and over the front for any traction on that bike. This in an XL is 1.82, therefor, low stack will just be a load more front end weight through geo than you are used to. Thats where the higher stack would aid in a better feeling (subjective) riding position and still maintaining good front end weight. You don't NEED to ride over the front as heavily anymore because the geo already naturally is giving you more front...

The LT looks pretty rad. I actually think lower stack is the move, I got an XL Hightower 4 recently with a 658 stack and I had to lower the stem pretty far to get it to corner how I prefer. would rather have a 640ish stack and run a big riser bar. I'll look forwards to getting one on a 40% sale from Backcountry in 4 years... $8400 for a complete or $5k frame is indefensible for a non ebike IMO.

1.79 in L and 1.82 in XL is sooooo rad! Bums me out stack (and head tube) is so tiny, STA is slack, and leverage aint the best for coil. Other than that, the bike is pretty dang awesome!

Somewhere, Brian Cahal is popping Champagne.

I did not expect an XL Yeti to come with 465mm chainstays in the short setting.

New Yeti LT details and ride impressions are live - https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/first-ride-yetis-new-lt-enduro-bike-a… Highlights 160mm of rear wheel travel // 170mm fork 29” and mixed wheel compatibility Sixfinity suspension design MX wheel, standard and low/slack geometry options TURQ carbon front and rear triangles with alloy linkage and dropouts Self-aligning linkage to eliminate friction Size-specific kinematics & geometry Two chainstay lengths (stock and +10mm dropouts) Adjustable leverage rate Integrated frame storage with storage frame bag 64° head tube angle Sizes: S, M, L, XL Weight (size M, no pedals or bottle): 35.74 lb (16.21 kg) MSRP (USD): LT XO - $10,200 (tested) //...

Quick correction- Hammerschimdt had an overdrive, opposite of the hub thing. Pedaling in low, it was just a 22 or 24 tooth chainring. Going up gave you a 1.6 overdrive, and that's when you felt the gears meshing. Climbing gears were just as efficient as a single ring, except for the extra weight.

This guy could sell ice to an Eskimo https://www.pinkbike.com/video/40871/

Hammerschmidt revised to be 18 years newer could be a pretty sweet thing when coupled with a small cassette and rear mech. You could probably also get pretty flash in the whole SRAM battery conspiracy universe and have it switch back and forth between ratios to allow you to just use one shifter across the entire gear range. I would love to try the old one on my SS hardtail to give it a trail gear and a commuting gear.

i miss hand crafted memes. insta-upvote for you, sir. so is it time to discuss the speshy gravity team dynamic? or are we just gonna chalk it up to coincidence? personally i was trying to ignore it until they went 4 in a row... (with 2 diff riders)

Let’s just bring the Zerode g1 gear box design back. Someone make a lugged bike with DW dual chain and a Alfine di2 11speed

Why haven't we seen more bikes with that Lal Supre Drive? I'd much rather have that than gear box or regular derailleur if I could have something that wasn't a short travel bike or a 40 lb nicolai.

Is 100k actually a carrot? Hardware development is expensive, I'm certain Atherton didn't developed their gearbox bike for less than 100k. I feel like riding a winning platform is more valuable than the prize money.

How many of those DH teams do you think would be running gearboxes right now if there wasn't a €100k carrot being dangled before them?

Why don’t DGI just spec electronic suspension to cancel out the inefficiency of gearboxes, are they stupid?

If you asked Pivot it would be 435

I need a high pivot CVT. What should my chainstay length be?