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person with most downvotes gets a week-long visit by bizutch (who is not eligible b/c he def wins).

Would y'all want to see a 15-minute VitalMTB video with back-to-back testing on a section of brutal rocky chunder with different pedal kickback theories to see if the Ochain really works as advertised?

I think everybody on Vital is acutely aware by now of just how much you hate Lewis brakes...

because it normalizes overall brake performance with regards to varying pad compound. its no secret that a good brake system can be hindered by mediocre pads and that you can improve performance of otherwise meh brakes with better pads. i agree that there is value in testing brakes wholistically as people will buy them (including OEM pads & rotors as you mentioned), or a bike that they are spec'd on. however the kind of bike nerd that's reviewing a table comparing peak brake forces and deceleration times is also the kind that is more likely to not replace their pads...

Holy shit, is this thread really just an ad for Oreos?!?! Great job to Todd and the ad team, glad to see some non-endemic brands advertising in the space!

i have nothing to add but my wife used to work for the company that makes oreos, and the frosting is piped around the manufacturing plant in liquid form.

Jeff, I love the world you live in where customers make educated product decisions based on balancing price against marginal utility. Newman's O's can win against big bad Oreo if they just work a little harder and make a better product! Sounds like my old school Econ classes, the neoclassical intro ones before behavioral Econ. In the world I live in, Oreo sells 100x more cookies than Newman's because of advertising, not quality, and their market share is growing every year. If I happen to want an Oreo, or a beer, or a cigar, that's due in no small part...

You just don't get it do you. These lazy GenZ'ers are too busy eating avocado toast and using pro-nouns to get real man jobs so they've blackmailed a totally altruistic organization to fund their globe trotting lifestyle of doing jumps on little bikes. I am of mediocre skills and I have no appreciation for what they are doing so assign it no value. I have had all the ambition kicked out of me but I feel angered that someone feels they have to stand up for their selfworth because I am bitter about how my life has turned out. I...

This must be the same level of "civility" shown in their Cascade reviews...

At least this guy is consistent.

[citation needed]

Please can we just get on with it? If you want to discuss the differences in bicycles and motorbikes please do that somewhere else.

What I will do at some stage when i get time is put the original 180mm forks back on the bike and test that with the telemetry doing the Curb impact test....that will be a direct comparison between the stock bike and the modified bike....that should be interesting.

Don’t worry! Lots of vital experts will be along to tell you that the people in the pits have had the full schedule/calendar for weeks now and how you’re ignorant and just an alarmist ESO hater.

For me it wasn't the word but the derogatory tone in which it was delivered.

As a fluent French speaker who lived in France for 14 years, I can offer a bit of context. The “gypsy” term is basically used interchangeably with “camper”, not intended as a slur but more of a funny way of describing anybody living out of a van for a while…it obviously gets lost in translation here.

The gypsy comment we could have done without. Hopefully, it was an honest mistake of not realizing what he was saying.

It really sounded like this Discovery folks got him hook line and sinker. “All we have to do is get rid of all this riff raft and then we will make you a star like Louis Hamilton!”

The entitlement that comes across in Loic’s interview is hard to deal with. Calling privateers “Gypsies” and saying that they make the pits look bad… Sacha Baron Cohen didn’t do this good of a job in Ricky Bobby!