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Remember, there are alot of people who are what I've heard referred to as "Speadsheet Shoppers".. And with them, bigger is better. More watts, more better.. Bigger battery, better.. Avinox has done a good job at delivering more without a huge weight penalty. And from what I've heard, the new motor has done a good job addressing issues with the first motor. Refer to the podcast with Jeff and Robot. They are a tech company addressing things the way a tech company does. But, with all that said, I'm really interested in the rumors of a full power TQ motor...

Ryan Pinkerton is US Nat. Champ (again!), beating Dylan Maples by about 0.9 seconds, with Nate Kitchen in 3rd. Congrats to Ryan for another championship! But hey, what's up with Nate Kitchen? This young Intense/Monster Army guy is having a hell of a year. I'd love to see him give World Cup another go.

It's a statement to counter other systems that allow class 3 via toggling the feature.

So, it seems that someone is. Europe is offering a Shimano to Gaboa conversation kit..

Just took at Teewing Turbo Force for a ride. Its Teewing's 150/160mm bike with the Avinox motor. Very nice bike for $6kMSRP. Motor is so quiet and massively tunable. Under 50 pounds. 800watt battery. One of my local shops is now a dealer. For that price it becomes something to consider for sure.

Really hope it’s a swappable battery with 400 and 600 options. 400 for lunch rides. 600+ range extender for backcountry missions. 2x 600 for self shuttle. Maybe even let bikes be run on range extender only like the Levo SL can. Perfect ebike right there and has the unmatched looks of a TQ motor. It doesn’t seem like Avinox is interested in this type of battery modularity so that’d be a great way to flank them.

I talked to a guy who works for a Trek dealer. He confirmed the TQ120 is coming, and that they've got a novel approach to battery capacity with it. Sounds really interesting.

That’s pretty stupid thing to post. I bet a lot of people here have a lot of information on hundreds of bikes that are under embargo, but we’re not dickhead so we don’t just go leaking stuff. This is for people to find stuff out in the wild and post it like if a website messes up by posting a bike early or somebody sees something in the wild or spy shots or whatever not just straight up leaking stuff from your bikeshops account

I think I could count the number of times I have washed any of my helmets ever on two hands...

While TQ might bail on MTB's (no evidence of this what so ever but you never know) they are a $500m company with 2000+ employees that's pretty well diversified across multiple industries. Doubt the company itself is going away. Rumor is that they have a more powerful version of the HPR60 coming as well that should compete with the full power brands. If they keep the same or similar form factor, power delivery, and quiet operation as the current product it should be pretty compelling. I've ridden the current HPR60 a bunch and it's really a great motor at 350+...

"Saddleback, the major UK cycling distributor that entered administration on 29 May 2026, had a more complicated last few years than previously known. New public filings and accounts from former employees show the owners taking dividends out of the business even as it took on large bank loans and built up debts to more than 150 creditors, many of whom now face being left out of pocket." https://escapecollective.com/saddleback-administration-millions-in-divi…

Guy who owns bike company trashes competitors bike. Shocking.

They are the old model bike (replaced with the Fuel+), and Trek is on the second year release of those expected in August. Plus there's word of a new Fuel+ coming with modular batteries and the rumored full powered TQ motor. In the US, Trek has a bunch of NOS Fuel EXE's on their Red Barn site.

FWIW, Bike24 is discounting 2025 Trek Fuel EXe bikes by 52%. Not sure if there's a deeper meaning, but it's only 2600 eur...

ADJUSTABLE CHAINSTAY LENGTH!!!!! Also, great review with lots of good details covered. One question I didn't think to ask until now: can you long shock it for more travel? I'm guessing it's not running a 65mm stroke shock, so I wonder if there's room in the linkage and rear triangle to bump up shock travel to a full 65mm and make it a bigger travel bike. If 160mm is good, maybe 170mm is even better. And regarding the review, did you test the LT with a DEG DF rear hub, and if so do you know what deadband setting was...

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