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Just their single damping circuit "cheap" version of a rear coil. Probably still close to $1000 I bet.

Here are my non-scientific results! Frozen Tire Durometer Test Details: Used IRC Tanken treated with hot laps tire treatment(Applied months ago) Used durometer hardness tester Type “A” Temperatures taken with infrared digital thermometer Tire Temp: 58f in garage Durometer rating: 56-61 Put tire in sun for 1 hour; Tire Temp: 110f in sun Durometer rating: 55-58 Put tire in freezer for 5hours; Tire Temp: 13f Durometer rating: 65 Tire after frozen but at room temp; Tire Temp: 68f (room temp indoors) Durometer rating: 58-60 In Garage after frozen Tire Temp: 59f Durometer rating: 58-60 Other ratings for comparison (Temp 58f-60f)...

I’ve gone from m8100/mt7 to the E4 and found my braking control has improved significantly, loved the initial power and bite of the shigura setup but found much more consistent control with the new hope brakes. The only negative is the pistons can move TOO freely and sometimes that leads to inconsistent lever feel, all sorted by pushing the pistons back and resetting which takes no time at all.

The air spring is a fully self-contained cartridge, so it wouldn’t matter if the inside of the fork legs were marred by a coil spring in this case…

This is good topic I don't think gets enough attention. I'm slowly gathering data on it but its going to take a while to test everything! A few things I've noticed - Tyres are spring, and air pressure changes the spring rate but they are not an air spring! ie the gas pressure doesn't increase much when they compress. The casing construction being energised by that pressure is what turns them in to a "spring" Pressure + width affects the contact patch and pressure + casing changes the spring rate so these 2 need to be balanced to get the...

This is a good point - the main reason I see people not getting travel is simply friction from the bushings! A 5wt oil might be OK in this specific application, because the bushings are so long that if the clearance is tight it can suit a lighter oil, which will be better at high speeds where a thick oil can create measurable drag. Its a combination of stanchion diameter + bushing length + clearance that determines the ideal viscosity. I usually find the stock dynamic "light" lube @ 50cSt is a really good balance for most forks but if...

Yeah, but not as much ramp as the zeb. I think they both have a lot of potential but personally I’m not as impressed with them out of the box as the reviews say. Maybe it’s personally ride feel preference or maybe my Ohlins DH38 was just a better fork for me. Hopefully get out on the zeb again soon and do some more testing. Going to shuttle today and try my Boxxer adjustments.

Neko did a video early in his series, using data it showed he had a slight change in dynamic sag while testing with and without oChain. I have done back to back, before I had data and could "feel" a difference in my feet, this was on a Trek Session that has a mid pivot idler. From that point on, I use it. I also ride flat pedals, so it make me more confident on the connection to pedals with much less feeling that my feet are sliding forward in square edge hits. I'm normally in a 6 degree setting...

I hope the bias in my conclusion was glaring, because I tried to spell it out as clearly as possible. I had an expectation for the Deviate and, to my surprise, that expectation wasn't met when I rode it. I'd love to ride it with an entry level shock to see how the axle path feels with less damping and more suspension bob.

What you describe sounds just like super-short chainstay bikes, not necessarily a high pivot. I'm super curious to hear your feedback on that Dreadnaught to verify your theory. LONG RANT INBOUND From my limited experience, it sounds like one of the main benefits of high or mid-high pivot bikes is that the idler pulley on most designs acts like a chainless rear suspension- it is typically tuned to reduce any chain pull and subsequent drag on suspension performance. Its hard to sus out this difference along with the change in axle path. A more rearward axle path will obviously help...

Not my fault if vital on the phone sucks and didn’t upload the pic, anyway, there they are

Spomer and I are working on a video that addresses this exact topic, because I was also really curious about if and how these things work. Video coming soon!

It might even offer some compression damping this time.

Started one so that we can keep the derailment to a minimum.

Indeed. Which is why I have this on the go. Pretty? not really. Nails the kinematics and functionality though, for me. Please ignore the unfinished business in many areas.