Bit late to the party but does anyone know what Comnencal Muc-Off had strapped to the down tubes of their bikes in Les Gets? Noticed a...
Bit late to the party but does anyone know what Comnencal Muc-Off had strapped to the down tubes of their bikes in Les Gets? Noticed a little box on their bikes.
Guessing its the uci telemetry/gps box? Not sure if every bike runs it, but starting to see it on a lot of the XC bikes as well.
There's a couple interesting things going on here. First, we haven't seen a long travel single crown 32" fork yet, only Neko's loctite-miracle 32" DH fork...
There's a couple interesting things going on here. First, we haven't seen a long travel single crown 32" fork yet, only Neko's loctite-miracle 32" DH fork and the various spindly 32" XC forks. But here it looks like maybe a Fox 36 with 140mm of travel? Maybe?
Also, when Neko ran the 32"/29" mega mullet at Sea Otter, he was runnings the absolute lowest profile Conti rear tire he could to sneak it past the seatstay and chainstay bridges without rubbing. But on this model, the normally all black carbon seatstay is half silver and half black, making me wonder if there's something special going on to make it longer for the 32" rear wheel. Could just be silver spray paint on a stock black carbon stay, but I'm guessing it's a 3D printed aluminum dropout assembly with a lugged end bonded to half of a stock Frameworks carbon seatstay to make room for that rear wheel with a real tire on it. That could also allow them to mess with the axle position and BB height, too.
"Hidden a little deeper on the Intend website is the new Edge 32″ Enduro fork. This fork is currently only available “for B2B sales for framebuilders/bike companies.” Still, it’s pretty exciting to see a production, inverted, longer-travel 32″ enduro fork, and it’s a sure sign that we’ll be seeing more 32″ prototypes and experimentation in the longer travel brackets.
Details are a bit sparse for the Edge 32″ fork, but what we do know is that it is available in 140 to 170mm travel lengths in 10mm increments. It can be ordered with 15mm or 20mm dropouts/axle diameters, and mounts for 180mm or 203mm rotors. The retail price is listed at €1,679.83."
I said "we haven't seen a long travel single crown 32" fork yet," and I can see how that might have been unclear.What I meant to...
I said "we haven't seen a long travel single crown 32" fork yet," and I can see how that might have been unclear.
What I meant to communicate was "Gee, that black RSU fork sure doesn't look like a Fox 32 or Neko's crazy loctite Fox 40, which are the only 32" Fox forks we've seen so far. I wonder what RSU fork that is. It sure looks like a Fox, and it could even be a dedicated long travel single crown 32" fork from Fox, which would be newsworthy because 32" bikes and products from the big brands like Fox and Rockshox have been relegated to XC or light trail applications so far." Frameworks is, after all, sponsored by Fox.
Respectfully, this:
Does not look like this:
The new Edge 32″ enduro fork, while undeniably cool and exciting, doesn't answer my question about what's on the front of Neko's bike.
Nicos bikes with 32" front wheels were running custom dropouts from Fox at the Mountain Creek PDS race earlier this year. If you look back at the 32" prototype he ran, there's a visible bulge on the lowers into the dropouts. The fork in your image appears to be far more refined at the dropouts than what I saw him running before.
Nicos bikes with 32" front wheels were running custom dropouts from Fox at the Mountain Creek PDS race earlier this year. If you look back at...
Nicos bikes with 32" front wheels were running custom dropouts from Fox at the Mountain Creek PDS race earlier this year. If you look back at the 32" prototype he ran, there's a visible bulge on the lowers into the dropouts. The fork in your image appears to be far more refined at the dropouts than what I saw him running before.
Would it be easier to modify the crown of the lowers and then just reduce the travel to fix a 32 in existing mold right side up fork?
Came across this on Loic’s bike from Les Gets. It looks like the sub-chamber from a push 9.1 modified to fit the Öhlins dh38? I know...
Came across this on Loic’s bike from Les Gets. It looks like the sub-chamber from a push 9.1 modified to fit the Öhlins dh38? I know it’s been rumoured that Loic runs a coil fork, so interesting if he’s play with the sub-chamber on a coil fork now too.
Looks like whatever is going on, they’ve now removed it while the bike is on display.
Honestly not 100% sure what I’m looking at with it removed. Possible just an adaptor to fit it to the stanchions, as well as drop it lower into the stanchion to accommodate the dual crown?
The “air” cap on the damper side is likely just a cover for the electronic damper?
Came across this on Loic’s bike from Les Gets. It looks like the sub-chamber from a push 9.1 modified to fit the Öhlins dh38? I know...
Came across this on Loic’s bike from Les Gets. It looks like the sub-chamber from a push 9.1 modified to fit the Öhlins dh38? I know it’s been rumoured that Loic runs a coil fork, so interesting if he’s play with the sub-chamber on a coil fork now too.
Looks like whatever is going on, they’ve now removed it while the bike is on display.Honestly not 100% sure what I’m looking at with it removed...
Looks like whatever is going on, they’ve now removed it while the bike is on display.
Honestly not 100% sure what I’m looking at with it removed. Possible just an adaptor to fit it to the stanchions, as well as drop it lower into the stanchion to accommodate the dual crown?
The “air” cap on the damper side is likely just a cover for the electronic damper?
I believe we're looking into the Push Sub-Chamber in that fork. The knob at the top of the Sub-Chamber closes a valve that either shuts off or opens up that air chamber, which results in more or less air spring ramp from the ambient air inside the coil-sprung stanchion. I never took my Sub-Chamber apart while I had the Nine One here (it's back at Push right now for a top secret tune up), but that image looks a lot like Darren's description of how the Sub-Chamber works.
Also worth mentioning that it works exactly as promised. It was a great feature to have, and performed a different suspension task than the HBO on the Nine One. I asked Darren why a fork would need to have both systems instead of just one, and here's a link to what he told me, which I found to be true in practice.
TLDR: different riding scenarios benefit from position vs. speed sensitive bottom out resistance.
Couple insightsYeti MT coming very soon. Some shops already have themNew Specialized enduro coming. My guess is march/april 2027. Apparently specialized believes it will sell better...
Couple insights
Yeti MT coming very soon. Some shops already have them
New Specialized enduro coming. My guess is march/april 2027. Apparently specialized believes it will sell better than the stumpy 15 which was one of there best selling bikes. No clue on design, just being told it’s coming
Man I hope that the new enduro sells super well, I couldn't care less about specialized but if a non ebike in that travel range sells...
Man I hope that the new enduro sells super well, I couldn't care less about specialized but if a non ebike in that travel range sells well it should wake the industry up that there is actually demand for those bikes.
The more I think about this the more I think about the possibility: -the enduro replaces the kenevo as the long travel eeb
Specialized has always been clear that they wouldn't risk diluting the name of their stumpjumper or enduro by naming their ebikes the same thing. They have a lot of brand identity/pride/ego wrapped in those product line names.
Unless they've done a complete 180 on their philosophy, there's never gonna be an e-stumpjumper or e-enduro.
Specialized has always been clear that they wouldn't risk diluting the name of their stumpjumper or enduro by naming their ebikes the same thing. They have...
Specialized has always been clear that they wouldn't risk diluting the name of their stumpjumper or enduro by naming their ebikes the same thing. They have a lot of brand identity/pride/ego wrapped in those product line names.
Unless they've done a complete 180 on their philosophy, there's never gonna be an e-stumpjumper or e-enduro.
When the stumpy 15 dropped they did a PB podcast and they also basically said “yeah no evo, it has to special/gnarly to get the evo name”
That lasted like less than a year, I think their philosophy is pretty money centric lol.
Nicos bikes with 32" front wheels were running custom dropouts from Fox at the Mountain Creek PDS race earlier this year. If you look back at...
Nicos bikes with 32" front wheels were running custom dropouts from Fox at the Mountain Creek PDS race earlier this year. If you look back at the 32" prototype he ran, there's a visible bulge on the lowers into the dropouts. The fork in your image appears to be far more refined at the dropouts than what I saw him running before.
Would it be easier to modify the crown of the lowers and then just reduce the travel to fix a 32 in existing mold right side...
Would it be easier to modify the crown of the lowers and then just reduce the travel to fix a 32 in existing mold right side up fork?
Assuming you mean arch not crown. But I am pretty certain you would run into issues with the wheel hitting the downtube sooner since you would be raising the wheel instead of dropping the axle.
Assuming you mean arch not crown. But I am pretty certain you would run into issues with the wheel hitting the downtube sooner since you would...
Assuming you mean arch not crown. But I am pretty certain you would run into issues with the wheel hitting the downtube sooner since you would be raising the wheel instead of dropping the axle.
That is adressed by the second measure (travel reduction from the bottom by the means of thicker bottom out bumpers I suppose)
The race for the most powerful E-Bike motor is up and Bafang is now leading the pack with it's new M560RS motor delivering a whopping 1700W with 150NM of Torque.
Came across this on Loic’s bike from Les Gets. It looks like the sub-chamber from a push 9.1 modified to fit the Öhlins dh38? I know...
Came across this on Loic’s bike from Les Gets. It looks like the sub-chamber from a push 9.1 modified to fit the Öhlins dh38? I know it’s been rumoured that Loic runs a coil fork, so interesting if he’s play with the sub-chamber on a coil fork now too.
Looks like whatever is going on, they’ve now removed it while the bike is on display.Honestly not 100% sure what I’m looking at with it removed...
Looks like whatever is going on, they’ve now removed it while the bike is on display.
Honestly not 100% sure what I’m looking at with it removed. Possible just an adaptor to fit it to the stanchions, as well as drop it lower into the stanchion to accommodate the dual crown?
The “air” cap on the damper side is likely just a cover for the electronic damper?
More likely that he's running the air and damper legs reversed for whatever reason, so the damper is on the right rather than on the left like most stock Ohlins forks. He's run the air and damper legs in the same reversed arrangement pretty much from the beginning, long before they started testing the electronic damper.
That interface would be for the servo motor to connect to the damper much like on RS flight attendant.
The race for the most powerful E-Bike motor is up and Bafang is now leading the pack with it's new M560RS motor delivering a whopping 1700W...
The race for the most powerful E-Bike motor is up and Bafang is now leading the pack with it's new M560RS motor delivering a whopping 1700W with 150NM of Torque.
I'm curious if we'll reach a point where even the hardcore e-bikers say this is too much?
The race for the most powerful E-Bike motor is up and Bafang is now leading the pack with it's new M560RS motor delivering a whopping 1700W...
The race for the most powerful E-Bike motor is up and Bafang is now leading the pack with it's new M560RS motor delivering a whopping 1700W with 150NM of Torque.
People on endless sphere have been hot rodding the m560 for a while. You can easily get 1500 watts out of it just by disassembling it, adding PC thermal pads at the appropriate place, and flashing the firmware with a besst tool. Now it can come that way from the factory, it would appear.
Most of these ebike motor units have a motor that's way overbuilt. I bet the Bosch could easily output 1500 watts with some thermal pads too. The only benefit that the m560 has is an all metal gears variant (no nylon)
The race for the most powerful E-Bike motor is up and Bafang is now leading the pack with it's new M560RS motor delivering a whopping 1700W...
The race for the most powerful E-Bike motor is up and Bafang is now leading the pack with it's new M560RS motor delivering a whopping 1700W with 150NM of Torque.
People on endless sphere have been hot rodding the m560 for a while. You can easily get 1500 watts out of it just by disassembling it, adding PC thermal pads at the appropriate place, and flashing the firmware with a besst tool. Now it can come that way from the factory, it would appear.
Most of these ebike motor units have a motor that's way overbuilt. I bet the Bosch could easily output 1500 watts with some thermal pads too. The only benefit that the m560 has is an all metal gears variant (no nylon)
my ep8 bike has pee wee 50 levels of power compared to these new motors and eats chains and cassettes like a snack, these new motors would be doing a chain a week!
"Hidden a little deeper on the Intend website is the new Edge 32″ Enduro fork. This fork is currently only available “for B2B sales for framebuilders/bike companies.” Still, it’s pretty exciting to see a production, inverted, longer-travel 32″ enduro fork, and it’s a sure sign that we’ll be seeing more 32″ prototypes and experimentation in the longer travel brackets.
Details are a bit sparse for the Edge 32″ fork, but what we do know is that it is available in 140 to 170mm travel lengths in 10mm increments. It can be ordered with 15mm or 20mm dropouts/axle diameters, and mounts for 180mm or 203mm rotors. The retail price is listed at €1,679.83."
I said "we haven't seen a long travel single crown 32" fork yet," and I can see how that might have been unclear.What I meant to...
I said "we haven't seen a long travel single crown 32" fork yet," and I can see how that might have been unclear.
What I meant to communicate was "Gee, that black RSU fork sure doesn't look like a Fox 32 or Neko's crazy loctite Fox 40, which are the only 32" Fox forks we've seen so far. I wonder what RSU fork that is. It sure looks like a Fox, and it could even be a dedicated long travel single crown 32" fork from Fox, which would be newsworthy because 32" bikes and products from the big brands like Fox and Rockshox have been relegated to XC or light trail applications so far." Frameworks is, after all, sponsored by Fox.
Respectfully, this:
Does not look like this:
The new Edge 32″ enduro fork, while undeniably cool and exciting, doesn't answer my question about what's on the front of Neko's bike.
Nicos bikes with 32" front wheels were running custom dropouts from Fox at the Mountain Creek PDS race earlier this year. If you look back at...
Nicos bikes with 32" front wheels were running custom dropouts from Fox at the Mountain Creek PDS race earlier this year. If you look back at the 32" prototype he ran, there's a visible bulge on the lowers into the dropouts. The fork in your image appears to be far more refined at the dropouts than what I saw him running before.
Martin Maes is running the same modified dropouts on his 32" fork as Nico had. (Stolen from Pink site)
EDIT: checked the PB article and I see now. It's a cut tube to lower the stiffness of it. Greatly. That's why there are all the bosses running on either side of the slit, to be able to bolt in a stiffening plate essentially making the downtube into a tube again, at least mechanically.
Guessing its the uci telemetry/gps box? Not sure if every bike runs it, but starting to see it on a lot of the XC bikes as well.
Old waki drawings?!
Haven’t thought about him in a hot minute! I hope he’s enjoying life and riding if he still wants to.
Nicos bikes with 32" front wheels were running custom dropouts from Fox at the Mountain Creek PDS race earlier this year. If you look back at the 32" prototype he ran, there's a visible bulge on the lowers into the dropouts. The fork in your image appears to be far more refined at the dropouts than what I saw him running before.
Would it be easier to modify the crown of the lowers and then just reduce the travel to fix a 32 in existing mold right side up fork?
Looks like whatever is going on, they’ve now removed it while the bike is on display.
Honestly not 100% sure what I’m looking at with it removed. Possible just an adaptor to fit it to the stanchions, as well as drop it lower into the stanchion to accommodate the dual crown?
The “air” cap on the damper side is likely just a cover for the electronic damper?
I believe we're looking into the Push Sub-Chamber in that fork. The knob at the top of the Sub-Chamber closes a valve that either shuts off or opens up that air chamber, which results in more or less air spring ramp from the ambient air inside the coil-sprung stanchion. I never took my Sub-Chamber apart while I had the Nine One here (it's back at Push right now for a top secret tune up), but that image looks a lot like Darren's description of how the Sub-Chamber works.
Also worth mentioning that it works exactly as promised. It was a great feature to have, and performed a different suspension task than the HBO on the Nine One. I asked Darren why a fork would need to have both systems instead of just one, and here's a link to what he told me, which I found to be true in practice.
TLDR: different riding scenarios benefit from position vs. speed sensitive bottom out resistance.
This is the topcap of a Charger 3.1 Flight attendant........ Not saying its got RS internals, but the layout is extremely similar
Specialized has always been clear that they wouldn't risk diluting the name of their stumpjumper or enduro by naming their ebikes the same thing. They have a lot of brand identity/pride/ego wrapped in those product line names.
Unless they've done a complete 180 on their philosophy, there's never gonna be an e-stumpjumper or e-enduro.
When the stumpy 15 dropped they did a PB podcast and they also basically said “yeah no evo, it has to special/gnarly to get the evo name”
That lasted like less than a year, I think their philosophy is pretty money centric lol.
Assuming you mean arch not crown. But I am pretty certain you would run into issues with the wheel hitting the downtube sooner since you would be raising the wheel instead of dropping the axle.
That is adressed by the second measure (travel reduction from the bottom by the means of thicker bottom out bumpers I suppose)
The race for the most powerful E-Bike motor is up and Bafang is now leading the pack with it's new M560RS motor delivering a whopping 1700W with 150NM of Torque.
So fkn lame.
More likely that he's running the air and damper legs reversed for whatever reason, so the damper is on the right rather than on the left like most stock Ohlins forks. He's run the air and damper legs in the same reversed arrangement pretty much from the beginning, long before they started testing the electronic damper.
That interface would be for the servo motor to connect to the damper much like on RS flight attendant.
Here's a screenshot from Vital video from 2024: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XYzOFN2M4Y
Yeti MT is live
I'm curious if we'll reach a point where even the hardcore e-bikers say this is too much?
https://hpcbikes.com/blogs/ebike-news/bafang-m560-2026-the-most-powerful-lightweight-e-bike-motor-2000w-185nm-52v-hpc-bikes
People on endless sphere have been hot rodding the m560 for a while. You can easily get 1500 watts out of it just by disassembling it, adding PC thermal pads at the appropriate place, and flashing the firmware with a besst tool. Now it can come that way from the factory, it would appear.
Most of these ebike motor units have a motor that's way overbuilt. I bet the Bosch could easily output 1500 watts with some thermal pads too. The only benefit that the m560 has is an all metal gears variant (no nylon)
USD dual crown in the Rockshox pit? From pit bits.
my ep8 bike has pee wee 50 levels of power compared to these new motors and eats chains and cassettes like a snack, these new motors would be doing a chain a week!
I asked Gemini to adjust the image to not alter anything about it, just to make what seems to be there, a little more visible. Hate me if you want.
1 upvote and I'll make a Vital Tech Rumors Enhance This Spyshot bot
While I would love a USD boxxer, its probably a hand dyno for the shock service guys
Well that sucks. I was hoping for something new.
Ahhh yeah that makes sense, just was such an odd shape that caught my eye. Dang it
Martin Maes is running the same modified dropouts on his 32" fork as Nico had. (Stolen from Pink site)
Forks is easy. Wheels, if aluminium, also not hard. What tyres is he going to run though???
Schwalbe Magic Mary Gravity Pro up front
More interested in the slit in the downtube!
Which slit?
EDIT: checked the PB article and I see now. It's a cut tube to lower the stiffness of it. Greatly. That's why there are all the bosses running on either side of the slit, to be able to bolt in a stiffening plate essentially making the downtube into a tube again, at least mechanically.
Would like to see the stiffening plates being used. I would assume this feature would be for racing/development only.
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