Vala Lite is in their line up already at least for the last 6 months. The email seems to be just about the video given the...
Vala Lite is in their line up already at least for the last 6 months. The email seems to be just about the video given the fact they run a lot of sales on their ebikes recently.
That's because no matter how they try to swing it, the Vala just hasn't been selling. No one asks about it or the bullit when talking...
That's because no matter how they try to swing it, the Vala just hasn't been selling. No one asks about it or the bullit when talking ebikes in the shop I work at, most people ask about the Orbea Wild or Norco Sight and Range VLT, even the Aventon Current has more interest around it, but that's probably due to the price.
Wow I too stand corrected apparently. Surprised this is not a small pull link.Rear triangle has to compress by about 5mm between main pivot and rocker.
Wow I too stand corrected apparently. Surprised this is not a small pull link.
Rear triangle has to compress by about 5mm between main pivot and rocker.
I greatly appreciate the level of maturity and tech geek here, but none of it really changes the fact that Scott uses the worst fucking bearings on these bikes.
Speaking of prototypes, in the vital pit bits the Santa Cruz mechanic dished out a ton of new Saint details. 12spd chain, 8spd microspline cassette. Must be close to release...
Given the talent, the talent in opposition to Hattie, and the hard yards she's done, it's pretty bloody well earned!
Absolutely.
She rips and has ripped in a number of disciplines. I think her bike setup looks atrocious and I don't think I'd feel comfortable on anything like it but I'm glad that she likes it and can shred on it!
Very curious to see what impact, if any, this has on gearbox/belt uptake in WC and beyond...
I almost made a joke earlier about this event heralding the beginning of the next 20-year gearbox winter but it's clear the industry is different now. I think they'll probably remain niche in bicycles but they make a lot of sense in e-bikes.
Did somebody already notice Martin Maes' floating brake arm on his Rallon? Don't remember seeing that mentioned, but it caught my eye in the Lawlor G-out video that Spomer just posted. Seen at one minute 15 seconds in.
If Martin's on flat pedals, I wonder if that has anything to do with his thinking around anti-rise. The Rallon DH is around 60-65% AR, which is really really low, so if anything this brake arm would likely be designed to give it more anti-rise to make it squat on the brakes. I don't know if high or low AR is better with flat pedals. Very interesting!
Did somebody already notice Martin Maes' floating brake arm on his Rallon? Don't remember seeing that mentioned, but it caught my eye in the Lawlor G-out...
Did somebody already notice Martin Maes' floating brake arm on his Rallon? Don't remember seeing that mentioned, but it caught my eye in the Lawlor G-out video that Spomer just posted. Seen at one minute 15 seconds in.
If Martin's on flat pedals, I wonder if that has anything to do with his thinking around anti-rise. The Rallon DH is around 60-65% AR, which is really really low, so if anything this brake arm would likely be designed to give it more anti-rise to make it squat on the brakes. I don't know if high or low AR is better with flat pedals. Very interesting!
Getting a screenshot on insta reels is super hard! but I spotted this bracket with 2 positions. I got some rough measurements from the those other pictures to estimate the change in Linkage (I don't think the model in there wasn't super accurate either) and yup, it probably increases the AR to 100-120%
Did somebody already notice Martin Maes' floating brake arm on his Rallon? Don't remember seeing that mentioned, but it caught my eye in the Lawlor G-out...
Did somebody already notice Martin Maes' floating brake arm on his Rallon? Don't remember seeing that mentioned, but it caught my eye in the Lawlor G-out video that Spomer just posted. Seen at one minute 15 seconds in.
If Martin's on flat pedals, I wonder if that has anything to do with his thinking around anti-rise. The Rallon DH is around 60-65% AR, which is really really low, so if anything this brake arm would likely be designed to give it more anti-rise to make it squat on the brakes. I don't know if high or low AR is better with flat pedals. Very interesting!
I want to say that a higher anti rise should be better as the squat in the rear rotates the bike rearwards and gives you a more stable position on the pedals by essentially dropping the heels even more.
Did somebody already notice Martin Maes' floating brake arm on his Rallon? Don't remember seeing that mentioned, but it caught my eye in the Lawlor G-out...
Did somebody already notice Martin Maes' floating brake arm on his Rallon? Don't remember seeing that mentioned, but it caught my eye in the Lawlor G-out video that Spomer just posted. Seen at one minute 15 seconds in.
If Martin's on flat pedals, I wonder if that has anything to do with his thinking around anti-rise. The Rallon DH is around 60-65% AR, which is really really low, so if anything this brake arm would likely be designed to give it more anti-rise to make it squat on the brakes. I don't know if high or low AR is better with flat pedals. Very interesting!
"I don't know if high or low AR is better with flat pedals. Very interesting!"
I too am intrigued by this.... I wonder what the overall consensus would be about higher vs lower for flat pedals
"I don't know if high or low AR is better with flat pedals. Very interesting!"I too am intrigued by this.... I wonder what the overall consensus...
"I don't know if high or low AR is better with flat pedals. Very interesting!"
I too am intrigued by this.... I wonder what the overall consensus would be about higher vs lower for flat pedals
Low anti rise comes with the bike pitching forward which is probably not ideal on flats, but high antirise comes with harsher suspension under braking which is also not great. Maybe 100-120% strikes the balance for Martin
Having come from riding bikes for the last 5 years with AR values in the 50-55% range, I really, really like that my Vessel out of the box with a floating brake arm, linkage driven single pivot, sits at 70ish AR, and is adjustable in both directions. I don’t know the exact numbers but have been adjusting the link to increase AR, as I feel that there’s a balance to strike depending on the rider and I personally prefer a higher 75-90% AR to settle the bike down. In really steep stuff my Madonna is a little nose heavy, the Vessle is not. I’ve ridden bikes with AR in the 100+ range and they are quite harsh under brakes in the rough. AR is one of the few things that I have started to be particular about as I’m far more sensitive to it than say 62.5 - 63 HA…
I keep seeing Yeti employees up at Trestle on the DH bike. I have to wonder if it’s going to release to the public soon.
Saw the pack of them up there yesterday too — could be a sign.
But the new LT has long chainstays, and I don't think they'd landed on that geo yet when they made the mold for the DH bike. The current proto has a rear pivot, so no adjustable CS either.
I've got 7 days on my V10 now, and the long chainstay (460) with a 475 reach is clearly the best. If they launch the DH bike with a stubby CS (like Pivot), it'd be a real letdown.
Seems like Commencal is back on the braking squat train (I've always thought antirise was a confusing term) since the new version of thier dh bike dropped the Horst link
Low anti rise comes with the bike pitching forward which is probably not ideal on flats, but high antirise comes with harsher suspension under braking which...
Low anti rise comes with the bike pitching forward which is probably not ideal on flats, but high antirise comes with harsher suspension under braking which is also not great. Maybe 100-120% strikes the balance for Martin
Everything I’ve been riding for a long time is past 100 and it’s harsh under foot with flats. Less ideal in my eyes. I would think that although pitching forward, having more active suspension would feel better with flats.
Everything I’ve been riding for a long time is past 100 and it’s harsh under foot with flats. Less ideal in my eyes. I would think...
Everything I’ve been riding for a long time is past 100 and it’s harsh under foot with flats. Less ideal in my eyes. I would think that although pitching forward, having more active suspension would feel better with flats.
Part of being a top racer is being able to tolerate the harshness that comes with a World Cup track. I could see why someone on flats at that level would prefer to have their weight driven into their pedals instead of floating away from them.
Everything I’ve been riding for a long time is past 100 and it’s harsh under foot with flats. Less ideal in my eyes. I would think...
Everything I’ve been riding for a long time is past 100 and it’s harsh under foot with flats. Less ideal in my eyes. I would think that although pitching forward, having more active suspension would feel better with flats.
Part of being a top racer is being able to tolerate the harshness that comes with a World Cup track. I could see why someone on...
Part of being a top racer is being able to tolerate the harshness that comes with a World Cup track. I could see why someone on flats at that level would prefer to have their weight driven into their pedals instead of floating away from them.
His choice to continue with flats for finals is... questionable
Speaking of prototypes, in the vital pit bits the Santa Cruz mechanic dished out a ton of new Saint details. 12spd chain, 8spd microspline cassette. Must...
Speaking of prototypes, in the vital pit bits the Santa Cruz mechanic dished out a ton of new Saint details. 12spd chain, 8spd microspline cassette. Must be close to release...
How are we feeling about Shimano 12sp chains on DH bikes? In my experience the 12sp chains and cassettes not nearly as bombproof as Shimano's 11sp and 10sp. Shimano has also basically admitted that their 12sp is not for ebikes considering the new electronic derailleurs that plug directly into the ebike battery are all 11sp. I can't imagine wanting a drivetrain on my DH bike that's less durable than my ebike.
Bit late to the party but does anyone know what Comnencal Muc-Off had strapped to the down tubes of their bikes in Les Gets? Noticed a little box on their bikes.
How are we feeling about Shimano 12sp chains on DH bikes? In my experience the 12sp chains and cassettes not nearly as bombproof as Shimano's 11sp...
How are we feeling about Shimano 12sp chains on DH bikes? In my experience the 12sp chains and cassettes not nearly as bombproof as Shimano's 11sp and 10sp. Shimano has also basically admitted that their 12sp is not for ebikes considering the new electronic derailleurs that plug directly into the ebike battery are all 11sp. I can't imagine wanting a drivetrain on my DH bike that's less durable than my ebike.
Wow I too stand corrected apparently. Surprised this is not a small pull link.
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Rear triangle has to compress by about 5mm between main pivot and rocker.
We must of missed your memo in the sea2sky. Santa cruz are the best selling ebikes in our store.
I greatly appreciate the level of maturity and tech geek here, but none of it really changes the fact that Scott uses the worst fucking bearings on these bikes.
Took the below photo of Asa's bike with what I think is a prototype TRP caliper, cant recall if its been posted before apologies if it has.
Speaking of prototypes, in the vital pit bits the Santa Cruz mechanic dished out a ton of new Saint details. 12spd chain, 8spd microspline cassette. Must be close to release...
It's nice to see a prototype that isn't simply a yet-to-be-released production-ready product from time to time
The cassette is just xt with the top 4 gears removed
There goes the belted purse!
Given the talent, the talent in opposition to Hattie, and the hard yards she's done, it's pretty bloody well earned!
Absolutely.
She rips and has ripped in a number of disciplines. I think her bike setup looks atrocious and I don't think I'd feel comfortable on anything like it but I'm glad that she likes it and can shred on it!
No doubt. It's a rare day that anyone beats Vali Hoell.
Very curious to see what impact, if any, this has on gearbox/belt uptake in WC and beyond...
I keep seeing Yeti employees up at Trestle on the DH bike. I have to wonder if it’s going to release to the public soon.
I almost made a joke earlier about this event heralding the beginning of the next 20-year gearbox winter but it's clear the industry is different now. I think they'll probably remain niche in bicycles but they make a lot of sense in e-bikes.
lawlor getting some DH flexage in the mud
Did somebody already notice Martin Maes' floating brake arm on his Rallon? Don't remember seeing that mentioned, but it caught my eye in the Lawlor G-out video that Spomer just posted. Seen at one minute 15 seconds in.
If Martin's on flat pedals, I wonder if that has anything to do with his thinking around anti-rise. The Rallon DH is around 60-65% AR, which is really really low, so if anything this brake arm would likely be designed to give it more anti-rise to make it squat on the brakes. I don't know if high or low AR is better with flat pedals. Very interesting!
Getting a screenshot on insta reels is super hard! but I spotted this bracket with 2 positions. I got some rough measurements from the those other pictures to estimate the change in Linkage (I don't think the model in there wasn't super accurate either) and yup, it probably increases the AR to 100-120%
Did spot that. I'm overall stoked with my rallon but the low AR is noticable at times and I'd increase it if I could.
I want to say that a higher anti rise should be better as the squat in the rear rotates the bike rearwards and gives you a more stable position on the pedals by essentially dropping the heels even more.
"I don't know if high or low AR is better with flat pedals. Very interesting!"
I too am intrigued by this.... I wonder what the overall consensus would be about higher vs lower for flat pedals
Low anti rise comes with the bike pitching forward which is probably not ideal on flats, but high antirise comes with harsher suspension under braking which is also not great. Maybe 100-120% strikes the balance for Martin
Having come from riding bikes for the last 5 years with AR values in the 50-55% range, I really, really like that my Vessel out of the box with a floating brake arm, linkage driven single pivot, sits at 70ish AR, and is adjustable in both directions. I don’t know the exact numbers but have been adjusting the link to increase AR, as I feel that there’s a balance to strike depending on the rider and I personally prefer a higher 75-90% AR to settle the bike down. In really steep stuff my Madonna is a little nose heavy, the Vessle is not. I’ve ridden bikes with AR in the 100+ range and they are quite harsh under brakes in the rough. AR is one of the few things that I have started to be particular about as I’m far more sensitive to it than say 62.5 - 63 HA…
Saw the pack of them up there yesterday too — could be a sign.
But the new LT has long chainstays, and I don't think they'd landed on that geo yet when they made the mold for the DH bike. The current proto has a rear pivot, so no adjustable CS either.
I've got 7 days on my V10 now, and the long chainstay (460) with a 475 reach is clearly the best. If they launch the DH bike with a stubby CS (like Pivot), it'd be a real letdown.
Seems like Commencal is back on the braking squat train (I've always thought antirise was a confusing term) since the new version of thier dh bike dropped the Horst link
Everything I’ve been riding for a long time is past 100 and it’s harsh under foot with flats. Less ideal in my eyes. I would think that although pitching forward, having more active suspension would feel better with flats.
Part of being a top racer is being able to tolerate the harshness that comes with a World Cup track. I could see why someone on flats at that level would prefer to have their weight driven into their pedals instead of floating away from them.
His choice to continue with flats for finals is... questionable
How are we feeling about Shimano 12sp chains on DH bikes? In my experience the 12sp chains and cassettes not nearly as bombproof as Shimano's 11sp and 10sp. Shimano has also basically admitted that their 12sp is not for ebikes considering the new electronic derailleurs that plug directly into the ebike battery are all 11sp. I can't imagine wanting a drivetrain on my DH bike that's less durable than my ebike.
Bit late to the party but does anyone know what Comnencal Muc-Off had strapped to the down tubes of their bikes in Les Gets? Noticed a little box on their bikes.
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