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Big Dos wrote:
Yep new Optic later in the year, more like Gen2. Gen3 idler version was cool in theory but kinda a useless bike in the real world...

Yep new Optic later in the year, more like Gen2. Gen3 idler version was cool in theory but kinda a useless bike in the real world. It will be interesting to see what they do with the Fluid as it would bring those platforms closely aligned again. Noting that the Revolver also has more travel now, their short(er) travel space is fairly congested. 

Agreed, cool in theory, but not something I think I’d be interested in spending money on. I would like to try it but demos are still a lot of money, idk man. 

Maybe they move the fluid back to budget focused AL only? I do forget that the carbon version exists regularly. I wonder if people veer away from the expensive fluid carbon because before a few years ago it was a dedicated value bike?


Sorry for the MTB market analysis rumors.

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Ambushell wrote:

I cant find the pics but the new Revel trail bike is launching tomorrow 

Ambushell wrote:
this thing... 32" wheels it looks like. possibly named the Rocket?
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this thing... 32" wheels it looks like. possibly named the Rocket?

Please please please please please have long reaches 

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Big Dos wrote:
Yep new Optic later in the year, more like Gen2. Gen3 idler version was cool in theory but kinda a useless bike in the real world...

Yep new Optic later in the year, more like Gen2. Gen3 idler version was cool in theory but kinda a useless bike in the real world. It will be interesting to see what they do with the Fluid as it would bring those platforms closely aligned again. Noting that the Revolver also has more travel now, their short(er) travel space is fairly congested. 

I wanted an optic but it weighs the same as my spire. 
Optic could be psycho slack, that would leave fluid to be “normal” and revolver in the lighter xcish trail zone. 
There is a cult of fluid riders inside the bike industry secretly praising the perfect kinematic and simple clean Horst packaging….

 

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My gen3 optic + dvo diamond 36 is the same weight as the status 160 + fox 38 it replaced lol. 

I wouldn't call it a useless bike. It's niche as fuck, but it's excellent at what it does. It's super jibby and the suspension performance is incredible for only 125mm. It's quite stiff and very burly, and rides like it's meant to be ridden at enduro bike pace on enduro bike terrain if you can hold on to it.

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I'm curious to see the details on the new Revel, it's most likely the new Ranger.  I wish it weren't flex stay, but I understand that most of the bikes it will be comparable to also have flex stays.  I'll hold off on asking if it's coil compatible, I don't wanna start that again.  

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I'm curious to see the details on the new Revel, it's most likely the new Ranger.  I wish it weren't flex stay, but I understand that...

I'm curious to see the details on the new Revel, it's most likely the new Ranger.  I wish it weren't flex stay, but I understand that most of the bikes it will be comparable to also have flex stays.  I'll hold off on asking if it's coil compatible, I don't wanna start that again.  

If the new ranger was flexstay, I wouldn’t be surprised, but that red rocket is a obviously their standard CBF 3 bar

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Big Dos wrote:
Yep new Optic later in the year, more like Gen2. Gen3 idler version was cool in theory but kinda a useless bike in the real world...

Yep new Optic later in the year, more like Gen2. Gen3 idler version was cool in theory but kinda a useless bike in the real world. It will be interesting to see what they do with the Fluid as it would bring those platforms closely aligned again. Noting that the Revolver also has more travel now, their short(er) travel space is fairly congested. 

nskerb wrote:
Agreed, cool in theory, but not something I think I’d be interested in spending money on. I would like to try it but demos are still...

Agreed, cool in theory, but not something I think I’d be interested in spending money on. I would like to try it but demos are still a lot of money, idk man. 

Maybe they move the fluid back to budget focused AL only? I do forget that the carbon version exists regularly. I wonder if people veer away from the expensive fluid carbon because before a few years ago it was a dedicated value bike?


Sorry for the MTB market analysis rumors.

The local brand manager showed us some release schedule along with some model data here at the product launch, earlier this year. Fluid will be the budget Al model line, Optic will return to be the higher tier one, with a slightly higher main pivot (Fluids are optimized for a 30t chainring, Gen 4 Optics will be for a 32t IIRC), but no idler. As someone else said, it'll be a return to the Gen 2 ways.

I run my Fluid the way most Norco employees do, with a 210x55 shock (~143mm of rear travel) and a 150mm fork. You lose some of the mid-travel support, but you get a more compliant bike. And the original amazing bottom out resistance is still there. Still wanted to try an overshocked (~135mm) Optic Gen 3. Sounds like an awesome jib bike.

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slimshady wrote:
The local brand manager showed us some release schedule along with some model data here at the product launch, earlier this year. Fluid will be the...

The local brand manager showed us some release schedule along with some model data here at the product launch, earlier this year. Fluid will be the budget Al model line, Optic will return to be the higher tier one, with a slightly higher main pivot (Fluids are optimized for a 30t chainring, Gen 4 Optics will be for a 32t IIRC), but no idler. As someone else said, it'll be a return to the Gen 2 ways.

I run my Fluid the way most Norco employees do, with a 210x55 shock (~143mm of rear travel) and a 150mm fork. You lose some of the mid-travel support, but you get a more compliant bike. And the original amazing bottom out resistance is still there. Still wanted to try an overshocked (~135mm) Optic Gen 3. Sounds like an awesome jib bike.

You can overshock an Optic to 135…? I’m in!

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Stumpy 15 aftermarket rear suspension shootout coming soon? Cascade vs MKlinkage..

If the new Enduro is never going to see the light of day, they should offer a link that’s ~160mm.  The Cascade link is great but in 29er I’d still like more travel. 

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jgaube wrote:
If the new Enduro is never going to see the light of day, they should offer a link that’s ~160mm.  The Cascade link is great but...

If the new Enduro is never going to see the light of day, they should offer a link that’s ~160mm.  The Cascade link is great but in 29er I’d still like more travel. 

It will be interesting to see where they end up with as far as the new Enduro... Do they follow the new Demo like some think or refine what is still considered a capable bike?

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nskerb wrote:
Do we see Norco re-vamping the sight/optic in the next year? I just walked through the local shop. Lots of them there. Really common to see...

Do we see Norco re-vamping the sight/optic in the next year? I just walked through the local shop. Lots of them there. Really common to see norcos around the area, and I have not seen a single current (high pivot) one being ridden in the wild. 

I want to see them go back to the normal pivot and just kind of refine what they already had. 

The amount of brand new Gen 2 optics still available online is wild given they stopped making them a good 2 years ago. I wonder if that made the 3 a harder sale, can't say I've seen many either

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Has anyone heard about an updated SB160? Thought I saw someone mention they spotted the proto on a ride last year... curious if it's around the...

Has anyone heard about an updated SB160? Thought I saw someone mention they spotted the proto on a ride last year... curious if it's around the corner. 

Heard someone talking about two new models with sixfinity (naming scheme like the E-ones without E) supposedly releasing june/july.

Also Speci Enduro alledgedly 2027.

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slimshady wrote:
The local brand manager showed us some release schedule along with some model data here at the product launch, earlier this year. Fluid will be the...

The local brand manager showed us some release schedule along with some model data here at the product launch, earlier this year. Fluid will be the budget Al model line, Optic will return to be the higher tier one, with a slightly higher main pivot (Fluids are optimized for a 30t chainring, Gen 4 Optics will be for a 32t IIRC), but no idler. As someone else said, it'll be a return to the Gen 2 ways.

I run my Fluid the way most Norco employees do, with a 210x55 shock (~143mm of rear travel) and a 150mm fork. You lose some of the mid-travel support, but you get a more compliant bike. And the original amazing bottom out resistance is still there. Still wanted to try an overshocked (~135mm) Optic Gen 3. Sounds like an awesome jib bike.

You can overshock an Optic to 135…? I’m in!

Take the spacer off the 185x50 shock and make it 185x55. Here's an example, right form Vital's bike checks

 

https://www.vitalmtb.com/community/mrmoody275/norco-optic-hp-custom

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slimshady wrote:
The local brand manager showed us some release schedule along with some model data here at the product launch, earlier this year. Fluid will be the...

The local brand manager showed us some release schedule along with some model data here at the product launch, earlier this year. Fluid will be the budget Al model line, Optic will return to be the higher tier one, with a slightly higher main pivot (Fluids are optimized for a 30t chainring, Gen 4 Optics will be for a 32t IIRC), but no idler. As someone else said, it'll be a return to the Gen 2 ways.

I run my Fluid the way most Norco employees do, with a 210x55 shock (~143mm of rear travel) and a 150mm fork. You lose some of the mid-travel support, but you get a more compliant bike. And the original amazing bottom out resistance is still there. Still wanted to try an overshocked (~135mm) Optic Gen 3. Sounds like an awesome jib bike.

You can overshock an Optic to 135…? I’m in!

Yeah that’sa pretty neat bike. It’s unique and niche and isn’t that what bikes are supposed to be? 

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2supple wrote:
Has anyone heard about an updated SB160? Thought I saw someone mention they spotted the proto on a ride last year... curious if it's around the...

Has anyone heard about an updated SB160? Thought I saw someone mention they spotted the proto on a ride last year... curious if it's around the corner. 

Any0ng wrote:

Heard someone talking about two new models with sixfinity (naming scheme like the E-ones without E) supposedly releasing june/july.

Also Speci Enduro alledgedly 2027.

This would make perfect sense and follows current industry trends. You probably don't need a 120, 140 and 160 travel bike anymore, so have an 'MT' and an 'LT' both of which, like the ebikes, can run MX or full 29. You then have four bikes from two moulds potentially. Yeti also don't really have a history of rolling names over so expect that whatever the new bikes are they wont be SB160's/165's, SB140's etc.. Also helps retain a bit of value in any remaining inventory. 

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I'm curious to see the details on the new Revel, it's most likely the new Ranger.  I wish it weren't flex stay, but I understand that...

I'm curious to see the details on the new Revel, it's most likely the new Ranger.  I wish it weren't flex stay, but I understand that most of the bikes it will be comparable to also have flex stays.  I'll hold off on asking if it's coil compatible, I don't wanna start that again.  

I assume it's going to be CBF, so a solid rear triangle.

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I'm curious to see the details on the new Revel, it's most likely the new Ranger.  I wish it weren't flex stay, but I understand that...

I'm curious to see the details on the new Revel, it's most likely the new Ranger.  I wish it weren't flex stay, but I understand that most of the bikes it will be comparable to also have flex stays.  I'll hold off on asking if it's coil compatible, I don't wanna start that again.  

Simcik wrote:

I assume it's going to be CBF, so a solid rear triangle.

Didn't we possibly see the bike already

 

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Didn't we possibly see the bike already   

Didn't we possibly see the bike already

 

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It was in a few of Revel's supplier's booths at Sea Otter. Not launched and had the logos covered up. 

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I'm curious to see the details on the new Revel, it's most likely the new Ranger.  I wish it weren't flex stay, but I understand that...

I'm curious to see the details on the new Revel, it's most likely the new Ranger.  I wish it weren't flex stay, but I understand that most of the bikes it will be comparable to also have flex stays.  I'll hold off on asking if it's coil compatible, I don't wanna start that again.  

Simcik wrote:

I assume it's going to be CBF, so a solid rear triangle.

I'm a moron.  I'm so used to short travel bikes being Flex stay, I completely forgot that the CBF is a completely different suspension design that doesn't/can't use a flex stay.  

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Any0ng wrote:

Heard someone talking about two new models with sixfinity (naming scheme like the E-ones without E) supposedly releasing june/july.

Also Speci Enduro alledgedly 2027.

Every time I hear sixfinity

Infinity Stones and Where Thanos ...

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I'm a moron.  I'm so used to short travel bikes being Flex stay, I completely forgot that the CBF is a completely different suspension design that...

I'm a moron.  I'm so used to short travel bikes being Flex stay, I completely forgot that the CBF is a completely different suspension design that doesn't/can't use a flex stay.  

With many brands moving away from their well-known suspension platform on the short travel bikes in place of flex stay designs, it was a relatively safe assumption these days. 

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I’ve also heard reliable they are ditching switch infinity link on future yetis. As for the enduro, who knows. They won’t lose the name and so a new bike has to be in the works. Maybe we’ll see it in whistler like we did with the current gen for the World Cup. 

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I'm a moron.  I'm so used to short travel bikes being Flex stay, I completely forgot that the CBF is a completely different suspension design that...

I'm a moron.  I'm so used to short travel bikes being Flex stay, I completely forgot that the CBF is a completely different suspension design that doesn't/can't use a flex stay.  

Check out the Taken Encounter for a counter example; High pivot 4-bar CBF. 

 

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sspomer wrote:
possibly the most technological innovation that's not a rumor ever? solar AI ebikes are here for $1899. create memes on the top-tube mounted display?https://phosgo.com/pages/reserve-product

possibly the most technological innovation that's not a rumor ever? solar AI ebikes are here for $1899. create memes on the top-tube mounted display?

https://phosgo.com/pages/reserve-product

solarAI

Quite the AI stuffed into this little whip. Gemini Generated Image o24ggmo24ggmo24g

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Any0ng wrote:

Heard someone talking about two new models with sixfinity (naming scheme like the E-ones without E) supposedly releasing june/july.

Also Speci Enduro alledgedly 2027.

2supple wrote:
Every time I hear sixfinity

Every time I hear sixfinity

Infinity Stones and Where Thanos ...

Antisquat: I am inevitable

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sspomer wrote:
possibly the most technological innovation that's not a rumor ever? solar AI ebikes are here for $1899. create memes on the top-tube mounted display?https://phosgo.com/pages/reserve-product

possibly the most technological innovation that's not a rumor ever? solar AI ebikes are here for $1899. create memes on the top-tube mounted display?

https://phosgo.com/pages/reserve-product

solarAI

Crosswind is going to murder a geriatric and we're going to get another lawsuit. 

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"Ride with confidence knowing PHOSGO AI agent is onboard, in control and listening ate every memorable moment." 
 

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