Nerding out on Brakes shall we? Not another tech deraliment

HexonJuan
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1/24/2026 10:40am
dolface wrote:
I rinse my DOT kit w/ water, shake as much out as I can and then flush w/ IPA and let everything dry, for mineral oil...

I rinse my DOT kit w/ water, shake as much out as I can and then flush w/ IPA and let everything dry, for mineral oil I disassemble, let everything drain as much as possible, then flush w/ IPA.

Been doing it that way for years...

IPA? That IMO is the best use case scenario for an IPA!🤣

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1/24/2026 1:06pm
dolface wrote:
I rinse my DOT kit w/ water, shake as much out as I can and then flush w/ IPA and let everything dry, for mineral oil...

I rinse my DOT kit w/ water, shake as much out as I can and then flush w/ IPA and let everything dry, for mineral oil I disassemble, let everything drain as much as possible, then flush w/ IPA.

Been doing it that way for years...

HexonJuan wrote:

IPA? That IMO is the best use case scenario for an IPA!🤣

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1/24/2026 4:14pm

Speaking of syringes, this $4.50 turkey flavoring grocery store special has similar hardware/interface to the $100+ SRAM kits, gladly accepting their attachments, as pictured. No idea if it actually works for a bleeding job or if one could pull any useful vacuum with it.
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1/24/2026 8:01pm
ballz wrote:
Speaking of syringes, this $4.50 turkey flavoring grocery store special has similar hardware/interface to the $100+ SRAM kits, gladly accepting their attachments, as pictured. No idea...

Speaking of syringes, this $4.50 turkey flavoring grocery store special has similar hardware/interface to the $100+ SRAM kits, gladly accepting their attachments, as pictured. No idea if it actually works for a bleeding job or if one could pull any useful vacuum with it.
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I have one of those red ones and some identical yellow ones that came with an EZMTB kit. They are really good and rebuildable if needed. I've used them for Shimano, Magura and Hope systems for years. Never used them on a brake which requires Millibar level vacuum but they've never 'burped' in normal use.

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You can get the exact same syringes in e.g. vet supply stores too.

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Primoz
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I got them off aliexpress. I don't like the luer lock interface, I think it can leak air under a vacuum, so I'd really prefer to use some pneumatic compression fittings to make it work properly. I just can't seem to figure out what the thread on the syringe is. 

That and the thread is straight into plastic and torquing the fitting down too much cracks the syringe. 

They are quite nice though, fairly thick which makes them resist leaking fairly well as opposed to waker and thinner syringes, like original Rock Shox ones (used for suspension servicing). Those leak oil past the plunger just pushing it into fork lowers after a few years. 

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JerseyMojo wrote:

He’s in Italy. I’ve bought a few levers for my bikes from him through eBay - https://ebay.us/m/xNqwvo - highly recommended. 

Thanks for the suggestion! Ordered a pair. I saw in the instructions that the little dial isn't refitted for the reach adjustment, could you confirm this?

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1/26/2026 5:06am
Primoz wrote:
I got them off aliexpress. I don't like the luer lock interface, I think it can leak air under a vacuum, so I'd really prefer to...

I got them off aliexpress. I don't like the luer lock interface, I think it can leak air under a vacuum, so I'd really prefer to use some pneumatic compression fittings to make it work properly. I just can't seem to figure out what the thread on the syringe is. 

That and the thread is straight into plastic and torquing the fitting down too much cracks the syringe. 

They are quite nice though, fairly thick which makes them resist leaking fairly well as opposed to waker and thinner syringes, like original Rock Shox ones (used for suspension servicing). Those leak oil past the plunger just pushing it into fork lowers after a few years. 

The 3 syringes i have (2x Yellow EZMTB & 1x Red as pictured) all have a female 6mm metric o'ring sealed fitting. Its a brass insert that you can easily convert to hydraulic or pneumatic fittings if you wish. Its even compatible directly with a banjo fitting/bolt from a brake caliper.

If you check out this link, they are the A type syringe. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005192030360.html

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Primoz
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Great info, thanks.

The ones I have I measured the corresponding fitting'S in the thread and even using metric and imperial thread rakes I can't figure out the type and pitch. The diameter is also somewhere in between everything, a metric screw doesn't fit, etc. 

Converting to a hydraulic fitting isn't needed if you mean changing the thread, I'd screw in a standard M6 compression fitting and be done with it. 

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1/26/2026 6:25am
JerseyMojo wrote:

He’s in Italy. I’ve bought a few levers for my bikes from him through eBay - https://ebay.us/m/xNqwvo - highly recommended. 

mannebask wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion! Ordered a pair. I saw in the instructions that the little dial isn't refitted for the reach adjustment, could you confirm this?

He was doing some tweaks to the design, but on mine no, you couldn’t refit the reach knob. It works fine with a long all key in the reach screw head though - think it’s 2.5mm from memory. 
 

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1/26/2026 6:28am
j0lsrud wrote:

The feeling when you finally bleed the Magura's perfect is maybe the best feeling in the world!

 

ballz wrote:

And then you strip one of the plastic parts of the master cylinder and throw them away.

j0lsrud wrote:
Unless you look like this,  and use common sense /torque, stripping of threads are not a problem

Unless you look like this,  and use common sense /torque, stripping of threads are not a problem 1000020176 0

Where did you find this picture of me?

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AgrAde wrote:
God I hate needing three or four different tools to install one component. the 10 speed era shimano brakes were the worst. How did it go...

God I hate needing three or four different tools to install one component. the 10 speed era shimano brakes were the worst. How did it go? 2mm to pop the stupid latch for the lever clamp open, 2.5mm for the bleed port in the lever, 3mm for the brake pads, 4mm for the lever clamp, 5mm for the caliper bolts? Something like that.

Edit: Oh yeah, plus a T25 for the damn rotor bolts.

Dont forget a T15 for the stupid rotor bolts on the Shimano Centerlock 6 Bolt Rotor Adaptor... 🙃

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1/27/2026 7:58am

Unpopular opinion: I prefer center lock over the six bolt. The rattle doesn't bother me.

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Unpopular opinion: I prefer center lock over the six bolt. The rattle doesn't bother me.

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1/27/2026 3:41pm
ballz wrote:
Speaking of syringes, this $4.50 turkey flavoring grocery store special has similar hardware/interface to the $100+ SRAM kits, gladly accepting their attachments, as pictured. No idea...

Speaking of syringes, this $4.50 turkey flavoring grocery store special has similar hardware/interface to the $100+ SRAM kits, gladly accepting their attachments, as pictured. No idea if it actually works for a bleeding job or if one could pull any useful vacuum with it.
image 564.png?VersionId=DxFlnsD2OFg2ZoDLXLKq9

I get all my syringes from ali express and recently picked up a few of these ones - the turkey basting needles were novel and can be used for squirting grease inside things but I don't think I'll actually use those too much. Mine came with a little bottle brush thats perfect for cleaning callipers too. I've always found they work great and have an ancient syringe that still seals (just - I think I had to replace the piston seal recently) under a huge vacuum. Only issue with these new ones is the numbers aren't etched on so will probably wear off

 

As for rinsing with water - I used to do this for dot syringes as it would prevent the rubber from swelling up. As long as they are FULLY dry it should be ok, but these days I basically just buy bulk packets of syringes and run them until the seals stop working

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1/27/2026 4:48pm

Unpopular opinion: I prefer center lock over the six bolt. The rattle doesn't bother me.

I also share this opinion, and I know not what rattle you speak of.

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1/27/2026 6:50pm Edited Date/Time 1/27/2026 6:50pm

Unpopular opinion: I prefer center lock over the six bolt. The rattle doesn't bother me.

DServy wrote:

I also share this opinion, and I know not what rattle you speak of.

Yeah... what rattle?

I don't care either way (i.e. hub interface isn't a deal-breaker) but as far as I'm concerned centrelock hubs are universal.  Got a six bolt rotor?  Use an adaptor.

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1/27/2026 9:33pm

Unpopular opinion: I prefer center lock over the six bolt. The rattle doesn't bother me.

DServy wrote:

I also share this opinion, and I know not what rattle you speak of.

boozed wrote:
Yeah... what rattle?I don't care either way (i.e. hub interface isn't a deal-breaker) but as far as I'm concerned centrelock hubs are universal.  Got a six...

Yeah... what rattle?

I don't care either way (i.e. hub interface isn't a deal-breaker) but as far as I'm concerned centrelock hubs are universal.  Got a six bolt rotor?  Use an adaptor.

Can't use an adapter reliably with anything more than a 180mm rotor in most cases. I like my 200s.

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Primoz
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1/27/2026 9:43pm

Why can't you? 

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1/27/2026 11:58pm Edited Date/Time 1/27/2026 11:58pm

So a CL-6B adaptor for a 223 wasn't a good idea then 😅

 

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Well if nothing else having 6bolt hubs and rotors makes it easier to disassemble the bike and out it back together if you're traveling. If you have CL rotors you need to add three pieces of gear to the tool pack, with a 6 bolt you only need a T25 (which you likely already have in the pack).

Other than that having CL hubs is a non issue I'd say.

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1/28/2026 12:41am

I recently dug out a GT iT1 from storage to go through it and check/grease/bleed everything etc. I had the idea in my head that i could grab a generic lockring tool to remove the discs. It turns out that because they are 20mm Saint axles front and rear i needed to go buy another larger tool. Pain in the ass. Just give me 6 bolts.

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I recently dug out a GT iT1 from storage to go through it and check/grease/bleed everything etc. I had the idea in my head that i...

I recently dug out a GT iT1 from storage to go through it and check/grease/bleed everything etc. I had the idea in my head that i could grab a generic lockring tool to remove the discs. It turns out that because they are 20mm Saint axles front and rear i needed to go buy another larger tool. Pain in the ass. Just give me 6 bolts.

I think it's the same interface as a Shimano hollow tech bottom bracket cup, if you have a BB socket/wrench it may work. 

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Primoz
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It is. 15+ mm axle requires the BB tool, up to 12 mm is possible with the cassette lockring. 

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1/28/2026 2:27am
I recently dug out a GT iT1 from storage to go through it and check/grease/bleed everything etc. I had the idea in my head that i...

I recently dug out a GT iT1 from storage to go through it and check/grease/bleed everything etc. I had the idea in my head that i could grab a generic lockring tool to remove the discs. It turns out that because they are 20mm Saint axles front and rear i needed to go buy another larger tool. Pain in the ass. Just give me 6 bolts.

Finkill wrote:

I think it's the same interface as a Shimano hollow tech bottom bracket cup, if you have a BB socket/wrench it may work. 

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Primoz
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Ah, that's from the old Saint days when the front hub was not yet on the BB interface apparently. 

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1/28/2026 2:44am Edited Date/Time 1/28/2026 5:11am
Primoz wrote:

Ah, that's from the old Saint days when the front hub was not yet on the BB interface apparently. 

Yeah the bike is a 2006. It has some cool custom GT weirdness going on aswell. Like the rear brake is on the 'other' side.

 

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Pics. 

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