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Giant must have a release of something coming out soon. A few media guys have posted IG snippets of being at the Giant HQ is Taiwan right now. 

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11/3/2025 9:41am Edited Date/Time 11/3/2025 9:50am
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Vital article from a while back at the Chinese bike show this year. Chatted with my local shop in regards to WR1 and they aren’t doing...

Vital article from a while back at the Chinese bike show this year. Chatted with my local shop in regards to WR1 and they aren’t doing frame replacements unless catastrophic failure. Frames are being sent to a company in Vancouver for carbon repair. Molds apparently are being sold to Sava Cycles and they will be flying the bikes under them and not WR1. Below pictured is the proto dh WR1 but now Sava will be bringing it to production in the distant future. 
 

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Was having a look on their website and back end of this bike looks suspiciously similar to the arrival. That's funny

Was having a look on their website and back end of this bike looks suspiciously similar to the arrival. That's funny

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Well at least the Arrival and the DH proto are better frames than the open mold stuff they seem to be selling now. I guess it's good the IP isn't lost, but also at the same time... I think something could be said about damage to the legacy. Or maybe it'll make the Canadian made ones more special? 

 

As a side note, now maybe someone will be able to get an Arrival equivalent in a bike that isn't matte black, matte olive, matte sand, or matte concrete. Dustin sure hated colours. 


EDIT: Seeing how Chinese companies have no issue attempting direct knockoffs of popular bikes such as the Hightower, Scott Spark, and even the high pivot Range, I'm somewhat skeptical they've actually been sold to Sava rather than Sava simply.... just trying to copy it on their own. The linkage on that Sava proto look like shit (and are clearly in different places) compared to the WR1 version, which is usually where you see some of the biggest differences. 

 

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11/3/2025 10:04am
earleb wrote:
Giant must have a release of something coming out soon. A few media guys have posted IG snippets of being at the Giant HQ is Taiwan...

Giant must have a release of something coming out soon. A few media guys have posted IG snippets of being at the Giant HQ is Taiwan right now. 

New Anthem and Liv Pique, possibly a new alloy ebike if it is ready yet (alloy Trance E+ and alloy Reign E+ have been discontinued AFAIA)

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11/3/2025 10:21am Edited Date/Time 11/3/2025 10:21am

I can't remember if it's been mentioned, but sounds like the Forbidden e-Dreadnought will be aluminum and they're also working on a short travel bike. 

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schowny wrote:
Vital article from a while back at the Chinese bike show this year. Chatted with my local shop in regards to WR1 and they aren’t doing...

Vital article from a while back at the Chinese bike show this year. Chatted with my local shop in regards to WR1 and they aren’t doing frame replacements unless catastrophic failure. Frames are being sent to a company in Vancouver for carbon repair. Molds apparently are being sold to Sava Cycles and they will be flying the bikes under them and not WR1. Below pictured is the proto dh WR1 but now Sava will be bringing it to production in the distant future. 
 

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Was having a look on their website and back end of this bike looks suspiciously similar to the arrival. That's funny

Was having a look on their website and back end of this bike looks suspiciously similar to the arrival. That's funny

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Jotegr wrote:
Well at least the Arrival and the DH proto are better frames than the open mold stuff they seem to be selling now. I guess it's...

Well at least the Arrival and the DH proto are better frames than the open mold stuff they seem to be selling now. I guess it's good the IP isn't lost, but also at the same time... I think something could be said about damage to the legacy. Or maybe it'll make the Canadian made ones more special? 

 

As a side note, now maybe someone will be able to get an Arrival equivalent in a bike that isn't matte black, matte olive, matte sand, or matte concrete. Dustin sure hated colours. 


EDIT: Seeing how Chinese companies have no issue attempting direct knockoffs of popular bikes such as the Hightower, Scott Spark, and even the high pivot Range, I'm somewhat skeptical they've actually been sold to Sava rather than Sava simply.... just trying to copy it on their own. The linkage on that Sava proto look like shit (and are clearly in different places) compared to the WR1 version, which is usually where you see some of the biggest differences. 

 

Kinda bummed if they actually sold off the molds and IP on the frames to a no name China bike co. 

Holding out hope that in a couple years they'd keep tinkering away in the background on frame design / manufacturing techniques to make a low volume made in Kamloops frame work financially. 

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11/3/2025 10:38am Edited Date/Time 11/3/2025 10:39am
saskskier wrote:

I can't remember if it's been mentioned, but sounds like the Forbidden e-Dreadnought will be aluminum and they're also working on a short travel bike. 

Guess that would fit with the rumor of having the Avinox M2 with alloy (heavier) frame 

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earleb wrote:
Giant must have a release of something coming out soon. A few media guys have posted IG snippets of being at the Giant HQ is Taiwan...

Giant must have a release of something coming out soon. A few media guys have posted IG snippets of being at the Giant HQ is Taiwan right now. 

Giant will stop manufacturing bicycles and shift all R&D and manufacturing to pickleball paddles.

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DorianKane wrote:

I think there is a similar Idea out there but the guy literally built this with a sodastream bottle

https://youtu.be/0VSFb4Dejwo?si=aD-gbel-ksmkDJGm

Stuff like this is so cool. No, I don't think Cameron's product is ready for sale today (obviously), but I love seeing creative people making something happen. Hope he's able to stick with this and develop it more. Seems like he's got a bright future ahead of him.

And, in a perfect world, if he's able to work out smaller and lighter packaging and dial in his accelerometer settings so it doesn't randomly go off in the carpark, who wouldn't want an airbag neck brace for nasty crashes?

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11/3/2025 12:19pm
Primoz wrote:

So forgettable. They didn't even include the umlaut...

Preach.

The original ö is ubiquitous. Now it's just random "transportation startup" chevrons. No-one will know what this is in isolation.

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11/3/2025 12:22pm Edited Date/Time 11/3/2025 12:23pm

Saw MTBnews post this new/prototype 32" bike from "Dead Rabbit"

I cant for the life of me figure out what the dropper post is though. Does anyone have a clue? Its not a bikeyoke revive limited, and its not a pnw silver ltd version either. 

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11/3/2025 12:31pm

still waiting for our first enduro or dh 32!!

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11/3/2025 12:45pm
Etney wrote:
Saw MTBnews post this new/prototype 32" bike from "Dead Rabbit"I cant for the life of me figure out what the dropper post is though. Does anyone...

Saw MTBnews post this new/prototype 32" bike from "Dead Rabbit"

I cant for the life of me figure out what the dropper post is though. Does anyone have a clue? Its not a bikeyoke revive limited, and its not a pnw silver ltd version either. 

f8a089ce20ac5595e89fe94a4eb7c14d.jpg?VersionId=twQNWV47H870b22adb6f540a0948792ed866fd8f20

 

Maybe the Intend dropper?

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11/3/2025 1:11pm
Etney wrote:
Saw MTBnews post this new/prototype 32" bike from "Dead Rabbit"I cant for the life of me figure out what the dropper post is though. Does anyone...

Saw MTBnews post this new/prototype 32" bike from "Dead Rabbit"

I cant for the life of me figure out what the dropper post is though. Does anyone have a clue? Its not a bikeyoke revive limited, and its not a pnw silver ltd version either. 

f8a089ce20ac5595e89fe94a4eb7c14d.jpg?VersionId=twQNWV47H870b22adb6f540a0948792ed866fd8f20

 

Maybe the Intend dropper?

Totally different 

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11/3/2025 1:14pm Edited Date/Time 11/3/2025 1:15pm
Etney wrote:
Saw MTBnews post this new/prototype 32" bike from "Dead Rabbit"I cant for the life of me figure out what the dropper post is though. Does anyone...

Saw MTBnews post this new/prototype 32" bike from "Dead Rabbit"

I cant for the life of me figure out what the dropper post is though. Does anyone have a clue? Its not a bikeyoke revive limited, and its not a pnw silver ltd version either. 

f8a089ce20ac5595e89fe94a4eb7c14d.jpg?VersionId=twQNWV47H870b22adb6f540a0948792ed866fd8f20

 

Maybe the Intend dropper?

Nope, their dropper is that "champagne" color they user for most of their stuff

Pic borrowed from TEBP

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11/3/2025 1:25pm Edited Date/Time 11/3/2025 1:29pm

still waiting for our first enduro or dh 32!!

Your prayers have been answered - Alutech Pelmo with that they seem to call "super mullet" - 32" up front, and a 27.5" in the rear (I THINK) 

Not 100% sure what maxxis tire it runs up front, but I believe it is the new dissector gen 2

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11/3/2025 1:27pm

could bright be working on a dropper too?

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11/3/2025 1:30pm
Etney wrote:
Your prayers have been answered - Alutech Pelmo with that they seem to call "super mullet" - 32" up front, and a 27.5" in the rear...

Your prayers have been answered - Alutech Pelmo with that they seem to call "super mullet" - 32" up front, and a 27.5" in the rear (I THINK) 

Not 100% sure what maxxis tire it runs up front, but I believe it is the new dissector gen 2

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That is indeed the Dissector v2. So far the 32" options from Maxxis appear to be Aspen and Dissector.

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11/3/2025 1:32pm

still waiting for our first enduro or dh 32!!

Etney wrote:
Your prayers have been answered - Alutech Pelmo with that they seem to call "super mullet" - 32" up front, and a 27.5" in the rear...

Your prayers have been answered - Alutech Pelmo with that they seem to call "super mullet" - 32" up front, and a 27.5" in the rear (I THINK) 

Not 100% sure what maxxis tire it runs up front, but I believe it is the new dissector gen 2

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683de97bdbdee328f80e74866e40de6d 0.jpg?VersionId=JJgw98

Thats is willldddddd. I was expecting 32/29 if mullet. 

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11/3/2025 1:32pm

still waiting for our first enduro or dh 32!!

Etney wrote:
Your prayers have been answered - Alutech Pelmo with that they seem to call "super mullet" - 32" up front, and a 27.5" in the rear...

Your prayers have been answered - Alutech Pelmo with that they seem to call "super mullet" - 32" up front, and a 27.5" in the rear (I THINK) 

Not 100% sure what maxxis tire it runs up front, but I believe it is the new dissector gen 2

8e1fcdba869991f0c950b0a2762041e4

683de97bdbdee328f80e74866e40de6d 0.jpg?VersionId=JJgw98

Thats is willldddddd. I was expecting 32/29 if mullet. 

That said. Eager for 32/29 or full 32!

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11/3/2025 1:35pm

still waiting for our first enduro or dh 32!!

Etney wrote:
Your prayers have been answered - Alutech Pelmo with that they seem to call "super mullet" - 32" up front, and a 27.5" in the rear...

Your prayers have been answered - Alutech Pelmo with that they seem to call "super mullet" - 32" up front, and a 27.5" in the rear (I THINK) 

Not 100% sure what maxxis tire it runs up front, but I believe it is the new dissector gen 2

8e1fcdba869991f0c950b0a2762041e4

683de97bdbdee328f80e74866e40de6d 0.jpg?VersionId=JJgw98

Thats is willldddddd. I was expecting 32/29 if mullet. 

If you check alutechs instagram, their is a video where he is showing the bike, and he had a 29” rear wheel for it too. But I think using a 27.5 rear wheel really makes a bigger visual difference for the show and all the pics. 

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11/3/2025 1:42pm

Surprised no one dropped 300mm rotors yet for the 32” wheels. 😏

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11/3/2025 1:58pm
Kusa wrote:

Surprised no one dropped 300mm rotors yet for the 32” wheels. 😏

70t cassette too, to shift all that extra weight.

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11/3/2025 3:51pm
saskskier wrote:

I can't remember if it's been mentioned, but sounds like the Forbidden e-Dreadnought will be aluminum and they're also working on a short travel bike. 

Will there be a carbon version of the e-dread? 

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11/3/2025 10:11pm
Kusa wrote:

Surprised no one dropped 300mm rotors yet for the 32” wheels. 😏

Jakowitz wrote:

70t cassette too, to shift all that extra weight.

Just go 28 or 26 in the front. 

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11/4/2025 12:42am
Kusa wrote:

Surprised no one dropped 300mm rotors yet for the 32” wheels. 😏

Jakowitz wrote:

70t cassette too, to shift all that extra weight.

Primoz wrote:

Just go 28 or 26 in the front. 

I think the chainstay would be the limiting factor on this particular bike.

11/4/2025 12:53am
Primoz wrote:

So forgettable. They didn't even include the umlaut...

Preach.

The original ö is ubiquitous. Now it's just random "transportation startup" chevrons. No-one will know what this is in isolation.

Is it better with a 3D animation? 😁

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11/4/2025 2:09am Edited Date/Time 11/4/2025 2:21am

Öhlins have changed their logo, from the signature and legendary Ö, to a new logo. Lacks all character and prestige that the old logo spent years to achieve.

https://www.ohlins.com/about-us/news/new-visual-identity

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11/4/2025 4:56am Edited Date/Time 11/4/2025 4:57am
johann377 wrote:
Öhlins have changed their logo, from the signature and legendary Ö, to a new logo. Lacks all character and prestige that the old logo spent years...

Öhlins have changed their logo, from the signature and legendary Ö, to a new logo. Lacks all character and prestige that the old logo spent years to achieve.

https://www.ohlins.com/about-us/news/new-visual-identity

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Square hole-ins.  We don't just carry a heritage, we drop it, kick it, trim off the edges, cut a square hole in it and proudly hold it up sideways. 

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11/4/2025 5:06am

I guess this is what happens when a company that hasn't done much marketing over the years starts doing some..  Let me guess, they hired a marketing person and they are pulling a Cracker Barrel deal..

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11/4/2025 5:40am

I’m pretty sure Ohlins main aftermarket customers are Harley owners.  As long as the remote reservoir remains gold, all the other guys at the country club will still think you’re cool.

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