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7/19/2025 11:16pm
Kusa wrote:
One leaf spring, nothing else... 🤔https://badaraccomtb.com/ 

One leaf spring, nothing else... 🤔

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I was skeptical until I watched the entire 30 second promo of the downhill scooter 

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7/19/2025 11:16pm Edited Date/Time 7/19/2025 11:19pm

What about damping? Or adjusting stiffness?? 

Loving the video on the page 😂

EDIT: whoa, lots of aliexpress special on those bikes. Fork and rims on the red one confirmed, probably cranks too. 

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I was skeptical until I watched the entire 30 second promo of the downhill scooter 

amazing video lol i am sold

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I call it aluminium too but I don't feel like I need to "correct" people about it.It started out as Alumium but then was later named...

I call it aluminium too but I don't feel like I need to "correct" people about it.

It started out as Alumium but then was later named Aluminum by the guy that first worked on isolating the element, and the name was based on "Alumina" which had been in use for a long time to describe the naturally occuring aluminium salts. Aluminium came after, made up by some random british people, and is pronounced completely differently to the root word. Remind me again which one is more correct...?

calling it that, like not using si units, driving on the left side of the road and having the brakes moto style is just plain wrong.

sincerely, the majority of inhabitants of this huge rock

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Her bike looks XL too. 

I don’t get the name. Propain. What am I missing? 

Its french. They simply like bread. 🤪

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7/20/2025 2:29am

I seen a post in this thread a while ago, a pro rider seemed to have a taller top cap installed on the air spring side of a D1 Boxxer fork. Tried to search but cant find it. Which rider was it?
 

Was it the same idea as the Ratio top cap that increases the volume by one token? Any one know much more about it?
Has anyone used the Ratio top cap on a Boxxer and can share any thoughts on it?

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7/20/2025 5:31am
I seen a post in this thread a while ago, a pro rider seemed to have a taller top cap installed on the air spring side...

I seen a post in this thread a while ago, a pro rider seemed to have a taller top cap installed on the air spring side of a D1 Boxxer fork. Tried to search but cant find it. Which rider was it?
 

Was it the same idea as the Ratio top cap that increases the volume by one token? Any one know much more about it?
Has anyone used the Ratio top cap on a Boxxer and can share any thoughts on it?

Luca Shaw? 

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7/20/2025 6:59am
I seen a post in this thread a while ago, a pro rider seemed to have a taller top cap installed on the air spring side...

I seen a post in this thread a while ago, a pro rider seemed to have a taller top cap installed on the air spring side of a D1 Boxxer fork. Tried to search but cant find it. Which rider was it?
 

Was it the same idea as the Ratio top cap that increases the volume by one token? Any one know much more about it?
Has anyone used the Ratio top cap on a Boxxer and can share any thoughts on it?

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7/20/2025 10:25am
Kusa wrote:
One leaf spring, nothing else... 🤔https://badaraccomtb.com/ 

One leaf spring, nothing else... 🤔

image 401
https://badaraccomtb.com/
 

I was skeptical until I watched the entire 30 second promo of the downhill scooter 

"No bottom out point on spring it just knows when to stop because its progressive."

Pretty sure it stopped when the bottom bracket hit the ground.

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7/20/2025 10:58am
I seen a post in this thread a while ago, a pro rider seemed to have a taller top cap installed on the air spring side...

I seen a post in this thread a while ago, a pro rider seemed to have a taller top cap installed on the air spring side of a D1 Boxxer fork. Tried to search but cant find it. Which rider was it?
 

Was it the same idea as the Ratio top cap that increases the volume by one token? Any one know much more about it?
Has anyone used the Ratio top cap on a Boxxer and can share any thoughts on it?

Luca Shaw? 

Yeah thats the one thanks! Found the original post now cheers

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7/20/2025 11:04am
I seen a post in this thread a while ago, a pro rider seemed to have a taller top cap installed on the air spring side...

I seen a post in this thread a while ago, a pro rider seemed to have a taller top cap installed on the air spring side of a D1 Boxxer fork. Tried to search but cant find it. Which rider was it?
 

Was it the same idea as the Ratio top cap that increases the volume by one token? Any one know much more about it?
Has anyone used the Ratio top cap on a Boxxer and can share any thoughts on it?

Yeah I probably should have mentioned the MRP one too since they are pretty much functionally identical to the Ratio one.

I dont think Luca Shaw actually had the MRP one on his fork, looking at the photo, his looks different from the MRP one.
I guess that sram probably just made him an in house one at his request or its something they are developing anyway.

I just wondered if the thing on Luca's bike is actually doing the same thing as the Ratio/Noken or if its something different. It doesn't seem like it could really be anything else other than increasing the volume though.

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7/20/2025 12:45pm
I seen a post in this thread a while ago, a pro rider seemed to have a taller top cap installed on the air spring side...

I seen a post in this thread a while ago, a pro rider seemed to have a taller top cap installed on the air spring side of a D1 Boxxer fork. Tried to search but cant find it. Which rider was it?
 

Was it the same idea as the Ratio top cap that increases the volume by one token? Any one know much more about it?
Has anyone used the Ratio top cap on a Boxxer and can share any thoughts on it?

Yeah I probably should have mentioned the MRP one too since they are pretty much functionally identical to the Ratio one.I dont think Luca Shaw actually...

Yeah I probably should have mentioned the MRP one too since they are pretty much functionally identical to the Ratio one.

I dont think Luca Shaw actually had the MRP one on his fork, looking at the photo, his looks different from the MRP one.
I guess that sram probably just made him an in house one at his request or its something they are developing anyway.

I just wondered if the thing on Luca's bike is actually doing the same thing as the Ratio/Noken or if its something different. It doesn't seem like it could really be anything else other than increasing the volume though.

Wonder if this has any correlation to whats being covered on the new zeb lowers

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7/20/2025 1:11pm Edited Date/Time 7/20/2025 1:12pm
Kusa wrote:
One leaf spring, nothing else... 🤔https://badaraccomtb.com/ 

One leaf spring, nothing else... 🤔

image 401
https://badaraccomtb.com/
 

If you haven't watched it yet, drop everything and watch the 35 second video on the link in the original post (above my comment).

And yes, you need to watch the WHOLE 35 seconds.

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7/20/2025 1:46pm Edited Date/Time 7/20/2025 1:46pm
I seen a post in this thread a while ago, a pro rider seemed to have a taller top cap installed on the air spring side...

I seen a post in this thread a while ago, a pro rider seemed to have a taller top cap installed on the air spring side of a D1 Boxxer fork. Tried to search but cant find it. Which rider was it?
 

Was it the same idea as the Ratio top cap that increases the volume by one token? Any one know much more about it?
Has anyone used the Ratio top cap on a Boxxer and can share any thoughts on it?

Yeah I probably should have mentioned the MRP one too since they are pretty much functionally identical to the Ratio one.I dont think Luca Shaw actually...

Yeah I probably should have mentioned the MRP one too since they are pretty much functionally identical to the Ratio one.

I dont think Luca Shaw actually had the MRP one on his fork, looking at the photo, his looks different from the MRP one.
I guess that sram probably just made him an in house one at his request or its something they are developing anyway.

I just wondered if the thing on Luca's bike is actually doing the same thing as the Ratio/Noken or if its something different. It doesn't seem like it could really be anything else other than increasing the volume though.

Luca was running something that looked an awful lot like the faux air caps that world cup racers used to use, to disguise the fact they were running a coil conversion in their forks. I wonder if we are seeing that make a comeback, it was a big thing mid 2010s then seemed to fall out of fashion.  

The vorsprung coil kit is now dual crown fork compatible.

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7/20/2025 1:46pm

Did he get pulled in by the car?

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7/20/2025 1:52pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:
If you haven't watched it yet, drop everything and watch the 35 second video on the link in the original post (above my comment).And yes, you...

If you haven't watched it yet, drop everything and watch the 35 second video on the link in the original post (above my comment).

And yes, you need to watch the WHOLE 35 seconds.

Not quite to the cinematography level of YT/Christopher Walken, but it’s damn close.

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7/20/2025 2:02pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:
If you haven't watched it yet, drop everything and watch the 35 second video on the link in the original post (above my comment).And yes, you...

If you haven't watched it yet, drop everything and watch the 35 second video on the link in the original post (above my comment).

And yes, you need to watch the WHOLE 35 seconds.

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7/20/2025 2:32pm
Kusa wrote:
One leaf spring, nothing else... 🤔https://badaraccomtb.com/ 

One leaf spring, nothing else... 🤔

image 401
https://badaraccomtb.com/
 

TEAMROBOT wrote:
If you haven't watched it yet, drop everything and watch the 35 second video on the link in the original post (above my comment).And yes, you...

If you haven't watched it yet, drop everything and watch the 35 second video on the link in the original post (above my comment).

And yes, you need to watch the WHOLE 35 seconds.

Every second that passes it gets a little funnier, I was dead by the end. 

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7/20/2025 2:34pm
TEAMROBOT wrote:
If you haven't watched it yet, drop everything and watch the 35 second video on the link in the original post (above my comment).And yes, you...

If you haven't watched it yet, drop everything and watch the 35 second video on the link in the original post (above my comment).

And yes, you need to watch the WHOLE 35 seconds.

chriskief wrote:
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To be fair, the forks are bottomed out too... Its not that different to how other bikes look in the numerous bottom out galleries vital bas done over the years.

...but yeah. 

Trying to figure if the rear "triangle" is just a triangle in order for brake/shift routing.

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Every second that passes it gets a little funnier, I was dead by the end. 

I particularly enjoyed the underwhelming and cheap sounding "tink" sound of the bike/scooter bottoming out.

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7/20/2025 3:36pm Edited Date/Time 7/20/2025 3:37pm
Yeah I probably should have mentioned the MRP one too since they are pretty much functionally identical to the Ratio one.I dont think Luca Shaw actually...

Yeah I probably should have mentioned the MRP one too since they are pretty much functionally identical to the Ratio one.

I dont think Luca Shaw actually had the MRP one on his fork, looking at the photo, his looks different from the MRP one.
I guess that sram probably just made him an in house one at his request or its something they are developing anyway.

I just wondered if the thing on Luca's bike is actually doing the same thing as the Ratio/Noken or if its something different. It doesn't seem like it could really be anything else other than increasing the volume though.

Finkill wrote:
Luca was running something that looked an awful lot like the faux air caps that world cup racers used to use, to disguise the fact they...

Luca was running something that looked an awful lot like the faux air caps that world cup racers used to use, to disguise the fact they were running a coil conversion in their forks. I wonder if we are seeing that make a comeback, it was a big thing mid 2010s then seemed to fall out of fashion.  

The vorsprung coil kit is now dual crown fork compatible.

Ha, yeah I had also thought about this. Memory is hazy but I think the top caps pros were running that implied a coil conversion were on Fox 40's back in the day? I might be wrong though.

This tear down video of the D1 boxxer is pretty good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS5eMHooBVc

Going by what they say about coil spring kits, it feels less likely that RS would be developing a coil kit for Boxxer. But who knows..

I've just bought a D1 Boxxer ultimate and building up a new DH bike. I haven't rode the fork yet, but just been reading up on it a bit. Cant help but wonder if a Flight Attendant kit will be released for the D1 Boxxer at some point.


But the fact that there is a new Zeb with new lowers in development, it makes me think that an updated Boxxer is probably already in the pipeline since RS seem to like to keep all the fork lowers using the same design language.

Continuing with the Zeb, I'm really curious about whats hiding under that cover on the lower leg. Thought it might have been some sort of piggyback reservoir but whatever is under there seems like it would be too small to be that.

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Every second that passes it gets a little funnier, I was dead by the end. 

TEAMROBOT wrote:

I particularly enjoyed the underwhelming and cheap sounding "tink" sound of the bike/scooter bottoming out.

dude the blur of a mad scientist followed by the utterly dismal "tink" of that bottom out reminds me of something from a Tik Toks That Radiate Vine Energy compilation. Cannot believe its real. I would love it if you guys did an interview with him...

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Every second that passes it gets a little funnier, I was dead by the end. 

TEAMROBOT wrote:

I particularly enjoyed the underwhelming and cheap sounding "tink" sound of the bike/scooter bottoming out.

It has to be an elaborate joke right? Right?

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Can someone put sam pilgrim in contact with these boys please. I bet he would take that thing down a line and actually look good while doing so.

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7/21/2025 3:58am
jhome wrote:
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DJI Decoy Wink

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7/21/2025 4:20am
jhome wrote:
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that might just be an advertisment payed in advance .... i dont think they put out fresh products anytime soon 

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moust wrote:

that might just be an advertisment payed in advance .... i dont think they put out fresh products anytime soon 

Perhaps they'll present it but I doubt anything will ship anytime soon. Atleast from the european warehouse. Can't remember if the american branch of YT is affected.

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Not sure if the Decoy coming with the DJI...

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Flo7 wrote:
Not sure if the Decoy coming with the DJI...

Not sure if the Decoy coming with the DJI...

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That bolt in front of the motor looks like SX or CX to me

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