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must have been me who spilled the beans. yes, DT is working on a sidekick style hub as i have been informed, but looking at how expensive that e13 sidekick hub is i think o-chain might be the better and service-friendlier option (no new wheel to lace up).
O-chain is certainly the trail-friendly choice with the option of external control over the float.
Do you have a feel of which bikes ran ochains & co and which didn't? I.e. were there teams where some riders did run it and some didn't or were there more situations where a certain bike was equipped with it across the whole team (or teams) while there were bikes that did not have it?
Also def a few people riding the hidden the hidden shakeweights / rimpact tmd - at least Troy, Craik, and Breeden that i know of
Weird shock I haven’t seen before on YT junior William Pugh’s bike (I think?), spotted at the top of qualifying yesterday and then in the pits today. When I asked about it at the pits they said they couldn’t talk about it. Looks like they borrowed the dials from a microscope or maybe a hunting scope.
Are there any infos on what Martin Maes is running for pedals?
Other random bits and bobs from yesterday:
1. Danny Hart-esque custom hub end cap to deal with brake/wheel/frame flex on an unknown to me Canyon junior men’s bike.
2. Close ups of Jordan Williams brakes on his ebike as he and Loic were track scouting dueing Q2. Probably nothing new to see here, but prove me wrong. I didn’t peel the tape off the lever but I did think about it.
3. The craziest cassette you’ll ever see on Benoit Colanges’ bike. Also, the whole Scott team is on Rimpact chain dampers, which was interesting.
Ordered myself a STFU for my trail bike. Because World Cup.
That Williams hub silencer looks cool.
I thought that shock had popped up in this thread but maybe it was Pinkbike. The speculation (note that it's only speculation) was Bilstein.
Agreed, it’s super hard to tell what you can’t see with mass dampers. Saw lots of number plates with a big vertical fold/bulge in the middle, so I couldn’t actually spot a TMD but it looked like it would be there. I didn’t include those as a TMD bike in my final count.
Similarly, added mass is almost impossible to tell from your eyeballs on an Orbea or Scott. I remember a few years back Brendan was stuffing lead weights in his crank spindles. Hard to see that with your eyeballs.
As mentioned by someone else, same with the new DT hub internals from WRP. Saw a lot of DT hubs yesterday, but who knows what’s in them?
I didn’t see any particular pattern in who was running PK devices, like low pivot or high pivot. I was surprised that none of the Giant Factory riders had one, because I think of Maestro/DW Link bikes as traditionally having higher AS levels. Wondering if that was a choice by the riders, but because zero of them had it, I wonder if the higher ups at Giant or Shimano told the riders no, or if they just can’t because they are on the old Saint crank. I did see a rider with XT cranks on their DH race bike specifically so they could mount a PK device, which was interesting.
CG > Today’s commentary clownshow
production privee teasing something new on their instagram
currently they're only listing the shan 5, which uses a different layout, on their website
Next time add a clipboard and a safety vest to look official and you'll hardly get a second look.
I thought I saw on here that the DT sidekick internals will be able to be swapped into current hubs like the WRP ones.
It's been mentioned here couple of times, robots need better database lol. And it's Bilstein, I guess it was only matter of time since their partner company H&R started to sell SLS shock springs few months ago 🤷🏻
Heard about an updated transition spur recently, similar design language as the new sentinel, still has a flex stay and seems to be 120/120. No word on release date.
Interesting tidbit from Dave Rome's interview w/ the XTR PM: the infamous pad rattle is caused by the pads hitting the retaining pin, not the caliper. New pads have an ovalized hole (so they can rock back and forth but not up and down) which supposedly fixes the issue.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKmOffDMpUn/
Can we move this to the suspension thread please
Reckon it's a Williams Racing Products ratchet
That has a lot shorter engagment than in the video. About the same as a standard 36T Ratchet.
I have the WRP zero drag kit. That's exactly how mine engages.
I thought the WRP has instant engagement? But will disengage the paws with a slight back pedal
"In almost all riding situations, the mere act of stopping pedalling and the momentum from the cassette is enough to kick the system into its disengaged “zero drag” mode."
"The hub still engages with what’s effectively the same 36T ratchet rings as a modern DT hub."
https://escapecollective.com/review-wrp-zero-drag-kit-a-silent-upgrade-…
that's their other product, the centrehub:
https://www.williamsracingproducts.com/shop/p/centrehub-pre-order
Was going to mention the DT internals from Mic. He stated that multiple riders are running them, but didn’t point towards who.
As for the steer tube shake weights, I think you need to just start causally sliding your finger into some tubes….definitely keep a tally for reactions to that one please.
Mic commented on that post and claimed he has nothing to do with whatever is going on in that dt hub. Something dt is likely working on
yup because I just got a GX derailleur, cassette, chain, chainring and 160 cranks for $750, granted I found a code that seems like it probably shouldn't have worked and mysteriously is no longer available on the site....
i have to say, i like the short cage option on the xtr stuff.
lol so good. I expect reactions would be... unique.
DVO's most recent post on their Instagram page saying ''Should we bring back the OG?''