While I would love to be able to run odd sized chainrings again, I’d be pretty shocked if Sram has figured out a way to work around how much halflink chains stretch.
While I would love to be able to run odd sized chainrings again, I’d be pretty shocked if Sram has figured out a way to work...
While I would love to be able to run odd sized chainrings again, I’d be pretty shocked if Sram has figured out a way to work around how much halflink chains stretch.
The shadow supreme is pretty beefy, but i don't see that playing well with gears...
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's...
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's new HPR 60 drive unit. Full details and review - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/e-bikes/yeti/mte-66241
Highlights
- 145mm rear wheel travel // 160mm fork (compatible with up to 180mm forks) - Carbon frame enhanced with Vectran plies - 29-inch wheels with mullet compatibility via a flip chip - Sixfinity suspension design - TQ HPR 60 Drive Unit - 290Wh or 580Wh battery options - Integrated removable battery - Integrated top tube display - Adjustable leverage rate - 64-degree head tube angle - 449mm chainstay length - Internal cable routing - 12X148 Boost rear spacing - Sizes: S - XL - 3 build kits - MSRP: C2 Eagle 90 Transmission - $9,850 | T3 XO Transmission - $12,650 | T4 XX Transmission - $14,300 - Weight (M, T3 Build, no pedals): 45 lbs (20.4 kgs)
Better have a bearing warranty for that price, 16 bearings. Bearing kit cost $220.
While I would love to be able to run odd sized chainrings again, I’d be pretty shocked if Sram has figured out a way to work...
While I would love to be able to run odd sized chainrings again, I’d be pretty shocked if Sram has figured out a way to work around how much halflink chains stretch.
Really liking this trend of SL eebs having removable batteries. Put the small one on for after work laps and then the big one (or extra small one in the shuttle truck) on for an all day mission.
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's...
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's new HPR 60 drive unit. Full details and review - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/e-bikes/yeti/mte-66241
Highlights
- 145mm rear wheel travel // 160mm fork (compatible with up to 180mm forks) - Carbon frame enhanced with Vectran plies - 29-inch wheels with mullet compatibility via a flip chip - Sixfinity suspension design - TQ HPR 60 Drive Unit - 290Wh or 580Wh battery options - Integrated removable battery - Integrated top tube display - Adjustable leverage rate - 64-degree head tube angle - 449mm chainstay length - Internal cable routing - 12X148 Boost rear spacing - Sizes: S - XL - 3 build kits - MSRP: C2 Eagle 90 Transmission - $9,850 | T3 XO Transmission - $12,650 | T4 XX Transmission - $14,300 - Weight (M, T3 Build, no pedals): 45 lbs (20.4 kgs)
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's...
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's new HPR 60 drive unit. Full details and review - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/e-bikes/yeti/mte-66241
Highlights
- 145mm rear wheel travel // 160mm fork (compatible with up to 180mm forks) - Carbon frame enhanced with Vectran plies - 29-inch wheels with mullet compatibility via a flip chip - Sixfinity suspension design - TQ HPR 60 Drive Unit - 290Wh or 580Wh battery options - Integrated removable battery - Integrated top tube display - Adjustable leverage rate - 64-degree head tube angle - 449mm chainstay length - Internal cable routing - 12X148 Boost rear spacing - Sizes: S - XL - 3 build kits - MSRP: C2 Eagle 90 Transmission - $9,850 | T3 XO Transmission - $12,650 | T4 XX Transmission - $14,300 - Weight (M, T3 Build, no pedals): 45 lbs (20.4 kgs)
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's...
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's new HPR 60 drive unit. Full details and review - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/e-bikes/yeti/mte-66241
Highlights
- 145mm rear wheel travel // 160mm fork (compatible with up to 180mm forks) - Carbon frame enhanced with Vectran plies - 29-inch wheels with mullet compatibility via a flip chip - Sixfinity suspension design - TQ HPR 60 Drive Unit - 290Wh or 580Wh battery options - Integrated removable battery - Integrated top tube display - Adjustable leverage rate - 64-degree head tube angle - 449mm chainstay length - Internal cable routing - 12X148 Boost rear spacing - Sizes: S - XL - 3 build kits - MSRP: C2 Eagle 90 Transmission - $9,850 | T3 XO Transmission - $12,650 | T4 XX Transmission - $14,300 - Weight (M, T3 Build, no pedals): 45 lbs (20.4 kgs)
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's...
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's new HPR 60 drive unit. Full details and review - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/e-bikes/yeti/mte-66241
Highlights
- 145mm rear wheel travel // 160mm fork (compatible with up to 180mm forks) - Carbon frame enhanced with Vectran plies - 29-inch wheels with mullet compatibility via a flip chip - Sixfinity suspension design - TQ HPR 60 Drive Unit - 290Wh or 580Wh battery options - Integrated removable battery - Integrated top tube display - Adjustable leverage rate - 64-degree head tube angle - 449mm chainstay length - Internal cable routing - 12X148 Boost rear spacing - Sizes: S - XL - 3 build kits - MSRP: C2 Eagle 90 Transmission - $9,850 | T3 XO Transmission - $12,650 | T4 XX Transmission - $14,300 - Weight (M, T3 Build, no pedals): 45 lbs (20.4 kgs)
Really? All their warranty policy says is lifetime against manufacturing defects not wear and tear.
I have had an si bike for 5 years now. They are way easier to service than replacing a bearing. When I noticed a little wear they sent me a new one no questions asked.
It would be real cool if it came stock on some builds, but knowing the bike industry, they would put it on bikes that don't need it just for the hype beasts out there. Integrated Dub cranks would be a plus too.
It would be real cool if it came stock on some builds, but knowing the bike industry, they would put it on bikes that don't need...
It would be real cool if it came stock on some builds, but knowing the bike industry, they would put it on bikes that don't need it just for the hype beasts out there. Integrated Dub cranks would be a plus too.
Maybe I missed it on here: did anyone catch the spec announcement that MY26 Stumpjumpers will now be sold as stumpjumper evos with a 160 mm fork and piggies back genie shock?
If nothing else it seems like an interesting branding move so close to the release of the 15
Maybe I missed it on here: did anyone catch the spec announcement that MY26 Stumpjumpers will now be sold as stumpjumper evos with a 160 mm...
Maybe I missed it on here: did anyone catch the spec announcement that MY26 Stumpjumpers will now be sold as stumpjumper evos with a 160 mm fork and piggies back genie shock?
If nothing else it seems like an interesting branding move so close to the release of the 15
...but will they have cable ports for us poor people / those of us that prefer mechanical?
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's...
Yeti just dropped it's second-ever e-bike, the new MTe. It's pretty much a smaller version of their 160e in many ways, and is equipped with TQ's new HPR 60 drive unit. Full details and review - https://www.vitalmtb.com/product/guide/e-bikes/yeti/mte-66241
Highlights
- 145mm rear wheel travel // 160mm fork (compatible with up to 180mm forks) - Carbon frame enhanced with Vectran plies - 29-inch wheels with mullet compatibility via a flip chip - Sixfinity suspension design - TQ HPR 60 Drive Unit - 290Wh or 580Wh battery options - Integrated removable battery - Integrated top tube display - Adjustable leverage rate - 64-degree head tube angle - 449mm chainstay length - Internal cable routing - 12X148 Boost rear spacing - Sizes: S - XL - 3 build kits - MSRP: C2 Eagle 90 Transmission - $9,850 | T3 XO Transmission - $12,650 | T4 XX Transmission - $14,300 - Weight (M, T3 Build, no pedals): 45 lbs (20.4 kgs)
Better have a bearing warranty for that price, 16 bearings. Bearing kit cost $220.
Why? It's a $14,000 Yeti e-bike, if $220 for bearings is an issue then its not the bike for you to begin with. There's also bikes out there with half as many bearings that cost even more for a kit because of the stupid sizes they use.
It's crazy how people will complain about those kinds of costs but will happily destroy the XX1 groupset in 500k because they cheaped out on chain lube.....
Why? It's a $14,000 Yeti e-bike, if $220 for bearings is an issue then its not the bike for you to begin with. There's also bikes...
Why? It's a $14,000 Yeti e-bike, if $220 for bearings is an issue then its not the bike for you to begin with. There's also bikes out there with half as many bearings that cost even more for a kit because of the stupid sizes they use.
It's crazy how people will complain about those kinds of costs but will happily destroy the XX1 groupset in 500k because they cheaped out on chain lube.....
What do you expect us to do? Lube our $100 chain like some sort of poor person?
Regarding Sram's half-link chain, what are the pros and cons?
Pros: -possibly (depending on overall shape) only one stamping tool vs. 2 separate tools of current chains (separate inner and outer links) -no need for a narrow-wide chainring, all teeth can be same for full retention (triangular shape instead of rectangular) -odd number of teeth -'narrow-wide' retention performance even on the cassette, thus: -shifting possible with full retention tooth shape (on the cassette) -more uniform support on shifting ramps (every pin/roller part of the cahin can be used for shifting vs. outer links only of current situation) -even finer length adjustment
Cons: -no more quick-link?
Anything else? More wear was mentioned but I don't see how wear should be substantially different to more widespread, inner-outer link chains. Wear locations are the same.
Regarding Sram's half-link chain, what are the pros and cons?Pros:-possibly (depending on overall shape) only one stamping tool vs. 2 separate tools of current chains (separate...
Regarding Sram's half-link chain, what are the pros and cons?
Pros: -possibly (depending on overall shape) only one stamping tool vs. 2 separate tools of current chains (separate inner and outer links) -no need for a narrow-wide chainring, all teeth can be same for full retention (triangular shape instead of rectangular) -odd number of teeth -'narrow-wide' retention performance even on the cassette, thus: -shifting possible with full retention tooth shape (on the cassette) -more uniform support on shifting ramps (every pin/roller part of the cahin can be used for shifting vs. outer links only of current situation) -even finer length adjustment
Cons: -no more quick-link?
Anything else? More wear was mentioned but I don't see how wear should be substantially different to more widespread, inner-outer link chains. Wear locations are the same.
Regarding wear, for some reason when using half link chains on my bmx bikes, it always seems like you end pulling your wheel further back fairly quickly...
Regarding Sram's half-link chain, what are the pros and cons?Pros:-possibly (depending on overall shape) only one stamping tool vs. 2 separate tools of current chains (separate...
Regarding Sram's half-link chain, what are the pros and cons?
Pros: -possibly (depending on overall shape) only one stamping tool vs. 2 separate tools of current chains (separate inner and outer links) -no need for a narrow-wide chainring, all teeth can be same for full retention (triangular shape instead of rectangular) -odd number of teeth -'narrow-wide' retention performance even on the cassette, thus: -shifting possible with full retention tooth shape (on the cassette) -more uniform support on shifting ramps (every pin/roller part of the cahin can be used for shifting vs. outer links only of current situation) -even finer length adjustment
Cons: -no more quick-link?
Anything else? More wear was mentioned but I don't see how wear should be substantially different to more widespread, inner-outer link chains. Wear locations are the same.
Regarding wear, for some reason when using half link chains on my bmx bikes, it always seems like you end pulling your wheel further back fairly...
Regarding wear, for some reason when using half link chains on my bmx bikes, it always seems like you end pulling your wheel further back fairly quickly...
As the bent side plates slightly straighten out, presumably?
If so, it also could cause excessive wear or binding of the rollers?
Not only that wouldnt work with narrow space between 12 speed cassettes but also wouldn't help with stretching issues. However I could see pre stretching the chains as part of manufacturing process could. Still wouldn't put one on my bike though.
Not only that wouldnt work with narrow space between 12 speed cassettes but also wouldn't help with stretching issues. However I could see pre stretching the...
Not only that wouldnt work with narrow space between 12 speed cassettes but also wouldn't help with stretching issues. However I could see pre stretching the chains as part of manufacturing process could. Still wouldn't put one on my bike though.
AFAIK chains don't actually stretch in any meaningful way, the rollers (and maybe the pins) wear allowing the rollers to sit off-center on the pins. The plates stay the same length.
Not only that wouldnt work with narrow space between 12 speed cassettes but also wouldn't help with stretching issues. However I could see pre stretching the...
Not only that wouldnt work with narrow space between 12 speed cassettes but also wouldn't help with stretching issues. However I could see pre stretching the chains as part of manufacturing process could. Still wouldn't put one on my bike though.
that was the joke, all the ways the wear is mitigated would render it non-useable for mtb. maybe not for a gearbox.
Not only that wouldnt work with narrow space between 12 speed cassettes but also wouldn't help with stretching issues. However I could see pre stretching the...
Not only that wouldnt work with narrow space between 12 speed cassettes but also wouldn't help with stretching issues. However I could see pre stretching the chains as part of manufacturing process could. Still wouldn't put one on my bike though.
AFAIK chains don't actually stretch in any meaningful way, the rollers (and maybe the pins) wear allowing the rollers to sit off-center on the pins. The...
AFAIK chains don't actually stretch in any meaningful way, the rollers (and maybe the pins) wear allowing the rollers to sit off-center on the pins. The plates stay the same length.
(Or am I missing what you're gettting at?)
that's been my understanding too, is that its the rollers that wear / deform over time.
More like reinventing the half-link chain.
Maybe not possible to tell from the pic but, anyone able to tell what motor it uses?
TQ hpr60
While I would love to be able to run odd sized chainrings again, I’d be pretty shocked if Sram has figured out a way to work around how much halflink chains stretch.
The shadow supreme is pretty beefy, but i don't see that playing well with gears...
Better have a bearing warranty for that price, 16 bearings. Bearing kit cost $220.
make it massive like bmx chains.
Really liking this trend of SL eebs having removable batteries. Put the small one on for after work laps and then the big one (or extra small one in the shuttle truck) on for an all day mission.
Yeti engineers when discussing how many bearings to use:
I annoyingly just thought of a better meme:
If you’ve owned or worked on a yeti with switch infinity, you’d probably be happy with more bearings instead
It’s easy to work on, throw away the old link, install the new one, be $300 poorer.
That applies if you’re not the first owner, if you are, well then you get a free new switch
Really? All their warranty policy says is lifetime against manufacturing defects not wear and tear.
I have had an si bike for 5 years now. They are way easier to service than replacing a bearing. When I noticed a little wear they sent me a new one no questions asked.
It would be real cool if it came stock on some builds, but knowing the bike industry, they would put it on bikes that don't need it just for the hype beasts out there. Integrated Dub cranks would be a plus too.
You can option it on the "new" Tyee
Yes, if it shows any wear you'll get a new one, so it's really not as painful as people think
Maybe I missed it on here: did anyone catch the spec announcement that MY26 Stumpjumpers will now be sold as stumpjumper evos with a 160 mm fork and piggies back genie shock?
If nothing else it seems like an interesting branding move so close to the release of the 15
...but will they have cable ports for us poor people / those of us that prefer mechanical?
Why? It's a $14,000 Yeti e-bike, if $220 for bearings is an issue then its not the bike for you to begin with. There's also bikes out there with half as many bearings that cost even more for a kit because of the stupid sizes they use.
It's crazy how people will complain about those kinds of costs but will happily destroy the XX1 groupset in 500k because they cheaped out on chain lube.....
What do you expect us to do? Lube our $100 chain like some sort of poor person?
Regarding Sram's half-link chain, what are the pros and cons?
Pros:
-possibly (depending on overall shape) only one stamping tool vs. 2 separate tools of current chains (separate inner and outer links)
-no need for a narrow-wide chainring, all teeth can be same for full retention (triangular shape instead of rectangular)
-odd number of teeth
-'narrow-wide' retention performance even on the cassette, thus:
-shifting possible with full retention tooth shape (on the cassette)
-more uniform support on shifting ramps (every pin/roller part of the cahin can be used for shifting vs. outer links only of current situation)
-even finer length adjustment
Cons:
-no more quick-link?
Anything else? More wear was mentioned but I don't see how wear should be substantially different to more widespread, inner-outer link chains. Wear locations are the same.
Regarding wear, for some reason when using half link chains on my bmx bikes, it always seems like you end pulling your wheel further back fairly quickly...
As the bent side plates slightly straighten out, presumably?
If so, it also could cause excessive wear or binding of the rollers?
That was my guess...
Not only that wouldnt work with narrow space between 12 speed cassettes but also wouldn't help with stretching issues. However I could see pre stretching the chains as part of manufacturing process could. Still wouldn't put one on my bike though.
AFAIK chains don't actually stretch in any meaningful way, the rollers (and maybe the pins) wear allowing the rollers to sit off-center on the pins. The plates stay the same length.
(Or am I missing what you're gettting at?)
that was the joke, all the ways the wear is mitigated would render it non-useable for mtb. maybe not for a gearbox.
that's been my understanding too, is that its the rollers that wear / deform over time.